What is Miscavige's secret

[knn]

Why is Miscavige so good at speaking?

I mean does he train his text for weeks before the events? Or are mistakes cut out before the films are copied to other orgs?

Is he reading every word from the prompter or is he improvising?

Thank you for any answer!

[Telepathetic]

Why is Miscavige so good at speaking?

I mean does he train his text for weeks before the events? Or are mistakes cut out before the films are copied to other orgs?

Is he reading every word from the prompter or is he improvising?

Thank you for any answer!

Knn,

Why don't you tell us. In you last thread regarding the "RJ" tapes, you asked a question but yet you seemed to have all the links and information. :coolwink:

I'm really enjoying all your posts, so, I'll just:drama:

TP

[knn]

Knn,

Why don't you tell us. In you last thread regarding the "RJ" tapes, you asked a question but yet you seemed to have all the links and information. :coolwink:
I'm really enjoying all your posts, so, I'll just:drama:

Thank you. I may have links but I want real info from some insiders... :coolwink:

[Been Done Had]

My guess is it's rehearsal. One thing you cannot take away from the guy is he is an amazing public speaker who knows his audience.

A part of it is the "friendly" audiences. They are vetted and on board.

I forgot the name of his speech writer, someone here will know, but working with the writer, rehearsing, videotaping rehearsals and tuning the basics of timing, delivery and content all shape the performance.

And do not forget that, it's only a performance by an actor.:wink2:

[Carmel]

<snip>

And do not forget that, it's only a performance by an actor.:wink2:

Yeah, and some just seem to have a natural ability/the gift of the gab - it seems to be an innate thing for some - so articulate without any stumbling.

It's a good 'ability' to have, but that's all it is to me - it doesn't mean much else, other than what it is.

[fishdaddy]

Danny Sherman writes his speeches. And he uses a teleprompter with two transparent screens on either side of him so he can appear to be naturally looking back and forth.

[knn]

Danny Sherman writes his speeches. And he uses a teleprompter

With mere headwords or with the complete text?

[Thrak]

Hitler was good speaker too. dm was blessed with many things. Too bad a conscience wasn't one of them.

[Telepathetic]

And all this time I just thought he had a great memory. :wink2:

TP

[Div6]

DM's "secret" is the thugs he hires for personal "security". He has no innate talent or ability, tho he does fancy himself a rather "big" thetan... And as we are witnessing, his leadership skills are a big zero, and he is a tech squirrel and 'dangerous auditor".

[GreyLensman]

My guess is it's rehearsal. One thing you cannot take away from the guy is he is an amazing public speaker who knows his audience.

A part of it is the "friendly" audiences. They are vetted and on board.

I forgot the name of his speech writer, someone here will know, but working with the writer, rehearsing, videotaping rehearsals and tuning the basics of timing, delivery and content all shape the performance.

And do not forget that, it's only a performance by an actor.:wink2:

Con man. He's the used car salesman who wants to make you the deal, but can't get his manager to agree to cut the price that much unless...

[Carmel]

DM's "secret" is the thugs he hires for personal "security". He has no innate talent or ability, tho he does fancy himself a rather "big" thetan... And as we are witnessing, his leadership skills are a big zero, and he is a tech squirrel and 'dangerous auditor".
He does have a "talent" or "ability" to stand up in front of thousands and lie/cheat/con, with a smile on his face, and without faltering or stumbling, and while at the same time as being in a state of psychosis - that IS ability in my books, although not one that would be admired particularly.

[Div6]

He does have a "talent" or "ability" to stand up in front of thousands and lie/cheat/con, with a smile on his face, and without faltering or stumbling, and while at the same time as being in a state of psychosis - that IS ability in my books, although not one that would be admired particularly.

Like Bush\Cheney\Obama\Hillary et al? It's not talent. Self-delusion, yes. Talent, no. Ability? To make the Ability grade, you have to convince others. You have to show credibility and people have to believe you. Per the stats, he is crashing in that area. Standing up in front of people and lying is not a great ability. Standing up in front of people and having the belive what you say, is.

Your mileage may vary...

[Thrak]

Like Bush\Cheney\Obama\Hillary et al? It's not talent. Self-delusion, yes. Talent, no. Ability? To make the Ability grade, you have to convince others. You have to show credibility and people have to believe you. Per the stats, he is crashing in that area. Standing up in front of people and lying is not a great ability. Standing up in front of people and having the belive what you say, is.

Your mileage may vary...

I couldn't go up there and make it a whole sentence probably without screwing up. The guy definitely has an ability there. Maybe when he's sitting in an orange suit with his last decades in a 10x6 cell, he'll wish he wasn't so good at bullshitting thousands of people.

[Tiger Lily]

No question the guy's good. I saw an interview with Ted Koppel (a couple of years old now). . . he held his own remarkably well, and Koppel was on the attack (Though I think Ted did get'im anyway). . . if you are interested, here' the link, though it may make you ill. (so if you just finished one of those gourmet meals from the OSA/Dinner thread, you may want to just pass on this). Otherwise, get your pepto.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUasKX3FZE

But Hitler was good at lying, convincing, inciting, too. He was Time's "Man of the Year". People loved him and believed anything he said (for a while). :nazi:

These gifts aren't just handed out to the good guys - it's a crapshoot and sometimes you get a dangerous combination of evil and ability. I think it's just the way the cards fell and DM's no dummy -- using what he's go to the fullest.

. . . . .or he made a deal with the devil :devil:

:confused2: TL

[Mystic]

I do not see DM as a particularly good speaker at all. In fact, rather boring. Yes, it is quite obvious he rehearses, and to get the measly stage presence he manages would require rehearsal as he just doesn't have it otherwise.

[I told you I was trouble]

Listening to him speak used to make me feel ill ... it was so rehearsed and so phony and controlled that it actually made me want to throw up.

I rather irrationally (but who cares) disliked him, from the very first time I saw/heard him and when he and Cruise did that performance where they stared at each other lovingly whilst clasping hands ... Oh! Pleeese.

:puke:

:hand:

Deary me ... they looked like a pair of absolute plonkers.

[Carmel]

Listening to him speak used to make me feel ill ... it was so rehearsed and so phony and controlled that it actually made me want to throw up.

I rather irrationally (but who cares) disliked him, from the very first time I saw/heard him and when he and Cruise did that performance where they stared at each other lovingly whilst clasping hands ... Oh! Pleeese.

:puke:

:hand:

Deary me ... they looked like a pair of absolute plonkers.
He made me sick too (especially once he perfected that slick smug thing aound '88 when he seemed to get everyone ooohing and aaaahing over what he said), but then the other Int mgt 'speakers' made me sick too. After his GAT speel - "the blind leading the blind" - he stopped making me sick, because I started to despise him.

Now that I'm out I still have distaste for him, and pictures of him make me wince a bit, but I no longer despise him. It has always baffled me that so many have considered that the sun shone out of his ass, when the out-points with what he said were obvious from the beginning and have become more and more so, over the years - rightly or wrongly I've put it down to his gift of the gab, his charm or whatever the fuck it is that has sucked so many in for so long, despite what he was dishing out.

[degraded being]

He would make a fabulous PR terminal with that ability,
and just imagine, the BIG BOSS, ah well, the little boss man of scientology broadcast
all over the world.
Juuuuuuuust one small problem. He don' wanna tok to
wogs. Too scaree. Let OSA do it.

[Hatshepsut]

I don't think he's that cool of a cucumber either. His S.O.P. for anything critical has always been to attack. He had to pull in the reigns with Kopple so as not to look bad. But he was getting agitated a time or two. I've watched this interview several times. He definitely rehearses like a good actor. He's convincing because he actually believes he stands for something noble and is pushing a star high goal. But what it is is a mystery. Even Jim Jones thought he was noble in the beginning. Then he got paranoid and murdered everyone in Guyana. The charisma comes from their belief in their own goodness. :puke: Ask any old lady who's opened her door to a Bible salesman.

[Dulloldfart]

Even Jim Jones thought he was noble in the beginning. Then he got paranoid and murdered everyone in Guyana.

Compliments of Google:

U.S. Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, who worked closely in key positions with the CIA, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff for many years, told Freedom (magazine) that Leo Ryan had moved too close to certain skeletons that could never be safely disturbed. Prouty noted evidence of the involvement of a larger force in the operation:

"The Joint Chiefs of Staff had prepared air shipments of hundreds of body bags. They didn't normally keep that many in any one place. Within hours, they began to shuttle them down to Georgetown (Guyana), the main city. They couldn't possibly have done that without prior knowledge that it was going to happen. It shows that there was prior planning." These and other unusual events, he noted, "are the kinds of earmarks that define the hand of American intelligence." The point being that the entire Jonestown massacre looks like it may have been well prepared for by the US government prior to the actual killings.

http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol29I4/page04.htm
[Yeah, sorry about that, but it isn't necessarily false! - Paul]

---
The source of the "Kool-Aid Suicide" stories was the U.S. State Department, which presented the story immediately after the "suicides" were reported as though it was the only obvious truth. A U.S. Army spokesman pronounced with complete authority, "No autopsies are needed. The cause of death is not an issue here." The bodies were then allowed to rot in the jungle. Despite the lack of need for autopsies, Dr. C. Leslie Mootoo, the top Guyanese pathologist, was at Jonestown hours after the deaths, and, refusing the assistance of U.S. pathologists, accompanied the teams that examined the bodies. His conclusions? Dr. Mootoo found fresh needle marks at the back of the left shoulder blades on 80 to 90 percent of the victims. Others had been shot or strangled. A surviving witness stated that those who resisted were forced by armed guards to comply. Dr. Mootoo's opinion, and that of the Guyanese grand jury investigating Jonestown, was that all but three (only two of which were suicides) were murdered by "persons unknown."

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/JONESTOWN.html

Notice the syringes

http://www.outlawjournalism.com/images/Jonestown/jones_005.jpg

Paul

[Neo]

Teleprompters are used at events, which have the whole speeches on them. Either side of where the speaker is standing. And mistakes are cut out of the DVDs.

As for talent, it isnt so much that as repeating an action enough times. Look at DM at the event about LRH's death. He doesnt seem so natural there.

Neo

[Hatshepsut]

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu277/Hatties-bucket/jones_005.jpg

Link to this photo posted by Dulloldfart as to show tragedy of a charismatic cult leader and his following.

Yeah, those needles are a real eye opener at the Jonestown death scene. the original story I believe was that the drugs were given as a shot of courage so everyone would be willing to take the poison kool-aid willingly. Yeah, right!
I did notice originally that the bodies had all fallen too close together. Human beings in their death throws are usually a little more chaotic movement wise.
Four individuals who escaped Jonestown or who had escaped before the massacre gave interesting accounts on the Oprah Winfrey Show a long time ago. It was scarey. They were terrified of being killed if they got caught planning to leave.
I keep hearing stories of CIA mind control programs where drugs are enforced and then denial of any such program. WHO is really doing this stuff. Who ARE these people. Certainly they are actiing as if autonomous with no one to account to. Its pure illusion that they are to account to the US govt. Its the same story over and over. What was that film Dennis Hopper was in where all these drugs were smuggled in from South America to Miami. I think it was Columbia. The CIA was involved with the local police and the torture and everything.
Yep, like it says on the sign in the Guyana death camp..Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
I love a good conspiracy theory though.
THANKS PAUL!
I read all your links. And it is SAD that the LIES we were told about the suicides were swallowed so unquestionably. The page sized photos in Time Magazine etc were the evidence to the contrary. They were probably put into a zombie state before they drank the kool-aid laced with cyanide. Cheaper to kill that way. And 90% black women? Did not know that one.

So, anyway, back to the subject of swooning under a great charisma( Jim Jones). If David Miscavige ever starts up a compound with cheap slave labor and mind control.. WAIT! What am I saying... :omg:

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

My guess is it's rehearsal. One thing you cannot take away from the guy is he is an amazing public speaker who knows his audience.

A part of it is the "friendly" audiences. They are vetted and on board.

I forgot the name of his speech writer, someone here will know, but working with the writer, rehearsing, videotaping rehearsals and tuning the basics of timing, delivery and content all shape the performance.

And do not forget that, it's only a performance by an actor.:wink2:

How hard is it to speak to a crowd of people who will be excommunicated or sent to a gulag for reprogramming it they do not conform 100% to what you are saying? I watched him in an interview with Ted Koppel and wasn't too impressed when he had to answer questions, as opposed to recite his canned statements.

[Dulloldfart]

I watched him in an interview with Ted Koppel and wasn't too impressed when he had to answer questions, as opposed to recite his canned statements.

It is INCREDIBLY hard to answer questions well on live TV when you represent — as top dog — a lying, thieving cult and you can't possibly tell the truth.

Paul

[Thrak]

Yeah all I'm really saying is his execution is quite good. I never found him inspiring and often I questioned as to whether he was really the right guy to be heading a religion as as he seemed really over the top.

There was one event in the last few years where they quoted What is Greatness and I found it inspiring as it seemed a true religious writing saying to love in spite of everything - just tubbo bullshitting. But then in the same event dm has a bit where he says "we don't hate psychs, we DESPISE them". And I really thought they should get somebody else but I didn't know there was nobody that had the power to replace him.

But I think I could count the number of times he flubbed a sentence in the 15 years I was there as less than 10. And I'm sure they fix the video releases but I saw him live numerous times too.

[Zinjifar]

Nobody can 'get' somebody else. David Miscavige wasn't 'elected'. There will be no further 'elections'. There is no mechanism in Scientology for 'transition of power'. None was ever intended.

Zinj

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

Yeah all I'm really saying is his execution is quite good. I never found him inspiring and often I questioned as to whether he was really the right guy to be heading a religion as as he seemed really over the top.

There was one event in the last few years where they quoted What is Greatness and I found it inspiring as it seemed a true religious writing saying to love in spite of everything - just tubbo bullshitting. But then in the same event dm has a bit where he says "we don't hate psychs, we DESPISE them". And I really thought they should get somebody else but I didn't know there was nobody that had the power to replace him.

But I think I could count the number of times he flubbed a sentence in the 15 years I was there as less than 10. And I'm sure they fix the video releases but I saw him live numerous times too.

To me, he always comes off as a Jar Head rallying his troops for battle, right before they run head first into the meat grinder.

[Thrak]

Nobody can 'get' somebody else. David Miscavige wasn't 'elected'. There will be no further 'elections'. There is no mechanism in Scientology for 'transition of power'. None was ever intended.

Zinj

I know that. But when I was still in I didn't know how it was structured and even heard people say that if DM screws up he could get canned like anyone else. :roflmao: Since leaving I've had such things clarified.

[Dulloldfart]

But I think I could count the number of times he flubbed a sentence in the 15 years I was there as less than 10. And I'm sure they fix the video releases but I saw him live numerous times too.

You're right. He is superb at it. If you want a comparison, imagine doing a Method 9 on something for one hour straight, or three periods of 20 minutes straight, and not making more than one mistake. Now imagine doing it on stage live with thousands of people watching.

I got to be pretty good at M9. For an example there's my "Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!" reading, but that is only a couple of minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYDveI75fCE

Paul

[Mystic]

Listening to him speak used to make me feel ill ... it was so rehearsed and so phony and controlled that it actually made me want to throw up.

I rather irrationally (but who cares) disliked him, from the very first time I saw/heard him and when he and Cruise did that performance where they stared at each other lovingly whilst clasping hands ... Oh! Pleeese.

:puke:

:hand:

Deary me ... they looked like a pair of absolute plonkers.


^^^^^^

THIS!!

[Mystic]

Compliments of Google:

U.S. Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, who worked closely in key positions with the CIA, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff for many years, told Freedom (magazine) that Leo Ryan had moved too close to certain skeletons that could never be safely disturbed. Prouty noted evidence of the involvement of a larger force in the operation:

"The Joint Chiefs of Staff had prepared air shipments of hundreds of body bags. They didn't normally keep that many in any one place. Within hours, they began to shuttle them down to Georgetown (Guyana), the main city. They couldn't possibly have done that without prior knowledge that it was going to happen. It shows that there was prior planning." These and other unusual events, he noted, "are the kinds of earmarks that define the hand of American intelligence." The point being that the entire Jonestown massacre looks like it may have been well prepared for by the US government prior to the actual killings.

http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol29I4/page04.htm
[Yeah, sorry about that, but it isn't necessarily false! - Paul]

---
The source of the "Kool-Aid Suicide" stories was the U.S. State Department, which presented the story immediately after the "suicides" were reported as though it was the only obvious truth. A U.S. Army spokesman pronounced with complete authority, "No autopsies are needed. The cause of death is not an issue here." The bodies were then allowed to rot in the jungle. Despite the lack of need for autopsies, Dr. C. Leslie Mootoo, the top Guyanese pathologist, was at Jonestown hours after the deaths, and, refusing the assistance of U.S. pathologists, accompanied the teams that examined the bodies. His conclusions? Dr. Mootoo found fresh needle marks at the back of the left shoulder blades on 80 to 90 percent of the victims. Others had been shot or strangled. A surviving witness stated that those who resisted were forced by armed guards to comply. Dr. Mootoo's opinion, and that of the Guyanese grand jury investigating Jonestown, was that all but three (only two of which were suicides) were murdered by "persons unknown."

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/JONESTOWN.html

Notice the syringes

http://www.outlawjournalism.com/images/Jonestown/jones_005.jpg

Paul


Yeah, I read all those reports too. Like

FKN UGLIEEEEE!

[Mystic]

Yeah all I'm really saying is his execution is quite good. I never found him inspiring and often I questioned as to whether he was really the right guy to be heading a religion as as he seemed really over the top.

There was one event in the last few years where they quoted What is Greatness and I found it inspiring as it seemed a true religious writing saying to love in spite of everything - just tubbo bullshitting. But then in the same event dm has a bit where he says "we don't hate psychs, we DESPISE them". And I really thought they should get somebody else but I didn't know there was nobody that had the power to replace him.

But I think I could count the number of times he flubbed a sentence in the 15 years I was there as less than 10. And I'm sure they fix the video releases but I saw him live numerous times too.

The "What Is Greatness" spew was written by HubBlub after John McMaster went "clear" at St. Hill, and was Da Foist klEEr! John was running around expounding love lovE loVE lOVE and LOVE to the max. And evidently HubBlub just couldn't stand it and had to write at least something which to him out-sounded John. John used to even run the life of Christ as one of his pastass lives.

I was not at St. Hill when John went klEEr so if someone who was there would post their view of this it would be appreciated.

Anyhow, after John went klEEr he took off for Washington DC as he wanted to see me. When he got there I wasn't on staff at the time and an envoy was sent to where I was living at the time to tell me John very definitely wanted to see me. Well, OK, so I went in to see John as I had always liked the guy.

My wife and I arrived in DC (we were living in Alexandria at the time) and there was a party going on at the place where John was staying. And yes, John was just one great big bundle of love. He was just loving everything. It was wonderful to behold.

Well there was a lot of booze at this party and at one point, all of us at least half bombed, John and I were sitting at this table (with booze bottles all over it) and John was all upset into an experience he had had where he was receiving people in a reception line celebrating John's klEErdom and one girl had a pin on said "The Bomb!" Well this 'The Bomb!' really had him going. He was quite upset about it.

So I started to counsel him about it. There we were in the middle of all this party and I'm "auditing" John on this incident. And, as little moments of magic go, no one interrupted us! The counseling went on for, gosh, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then Voila! incident blown and John was lovingly happy again.

See, see, see Ron, see what squirrel "auditing" can do? :roflmao:

[Thrak]

Thanks for the background Mystic. Knowing what I know now I was sure it was bullshit.

[Hatshepsut]

You're right. He is superb at it. If you want a comparison, imagine doing a Method 9 on something for one hour straight, or three periods of 20 minutes straight, and not making more than one mistake. Now imagine doing it on stage live with thousands of people watching.

I got to be pretty good at M9. For an example there's my "Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!" reading, but that is only a couple of minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYDveI75fCE http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu277/Hatties-bucket/oscar-1.gif

Paul

I just LOVED this!!! I'm gonna do a capture and store it in my media files FOREVER. Hahaaa AAaaaargh. Always the pirate for Halloween! :D
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Carmel]

<snip>

I got to be pretty good at M9. For an example there's my "Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!" reading, but that is only a couple of minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYDveI75fCE

Paul

What a hoot! I saw this months ago, but watched it again this morning, and still this evening I'm hearing "yo ho ho and a bottle of rum" in an english accent, and I'm still giggling away. :whistling:

Don't know why, but this clip of yours just makes me wanna give ya a kiss and a cuddle, throw ya down one of our sand dunes, and watch ya tumbling for about a minute, till ya get your bearings at the bottom, all bedazzled, then get up as bright as a button, with a big fat smile on your face. :buzzin:

This post of mine is highly irrelevant, but then so are half of the posts on ESMB! :coolwink:

Love ya Pauly! :D

[Rorschach]

Sorry to go back to the original issue of this post, but I had to put my two cents in.

Davey the Dwarf is a horrible public speaker. There is a difference between speaking on the fly, off the top of your head in front of dozens, hundreds, or thousands of people, and what DM does. DM practices endlessly and never varies his speaking. Anyone can deliver a prepared speech with enough preparation, but the true test is whether or not you can do impromptu speaking. Additionally, his gestures were ridiculous and forced. Every speech he has ever given sounds very similar, and shows his limited vocabulary. If you've ever competed in speaking events you'd understand why I say that he sucks. It's forced robotic speaking. He and all the other Int Execs that would speak at events were major reasons for the reputation of $cientologists as carbon copies of each other.

I know the TR's allow some people to come off natural, but Davey the Dwarf doesn't know what natural is.:eyeroll:

[ULRC/S]

EXACTLY!

Reagrds, Allen

[Axiom142]

What a hoot! I saw this months ago, but watched it again this morning, and still this evening I'm hearing "yo ho ho and a bottle of rum" in an english accent, and I'm still giggling away. :whistling:

Don't know why, but this clip of yours just makes me wanna give ya a kiss and a cuddle, throw ya down one of our sand dunes, and watch ya tumbling for about a minute, till ya get your bearings at the bottom, all bedazzled, then get up as bright as a button, with a big fat smile on your face. :buzzin:

This post of mine is highly irrelevant, but then so are half of the posts on ESMB! :coolwink:

Love ya Pauly! :D

:ohmy: Ooh err missus!

There's an offer you can't turn down Paul! :)

Ax

[Axiom142]

Danny Sherman writes his speeches. And he uses a teleprompter with two transparent screens on either side of him so he can appear to be naturally looking back and forth.

Thanks for confirming the fact that Dan Sherman wrote the speeches, Fishdaddy.

I was fairly sure of this - his over-flowery use of language was a bit of a give-away, but I hadn’t got confirmation.

I knew about the teleprompters as I’ve been close enough at the IAS events to see them. The last one I attended was the 2007 shindig. Here Miscavige gave the entire address, presumably as he couldn’t trust the other intended speakers not to blow so soon after Mike Rinder had done a runner. He is a pretty good public speaker, but he wasn’t perfect. He did stumble a few times, but these are cut from the video shown to orgs. And, at one point, he was left staring at the camera, waiting for a cut-away which was delayed by 3 or 4 seconds. Just before the cut, we were treated to him flashing a look of pure venom towards the hapless events crew who had left him exposed.

Unfortunately, I didn’t have my camera recording at that point, so we don’t have a record of it.

Axiom142

[randomx]

In 1988 I was at Flag when the Feewinds launch event was held.

I had a particular job to do which put me outside the event and
going past the cabana where the Int execs were watching the
proceedings on closed circuit television.

However outside on the lawn in the darkness, I was motioned away
by a security guard.
Behind him I could see Guillame Leserve rehearsing his speech.
When I got to see the video of the event later he was doing
exactly what I`d seen him do outside backstage.

So I have personally witnessed an int exec rehearsing.
It was completely choreographed.
The inflections, the smiles the gestures.
Not one moment of Guillames speech was spontaneous.


Also when Jeff Walker spoke one of the RPFers , who were
backstage crew, lowered the wrong giant book down behind
Jeff.

That was missing from the event video.

Also whatever happened to that RPFer was never shown.

[Mystic]

In 1988 I was at Flag when the Feewinds launch event was held.

I had a particular job to do which put me outside the event and
going past the cabana where the Int execs were watching the
proceedings on closed circuit television.

However outside on the lawn in the darkness, I was motioned away
by a security guard.
Behind him I could see Guillame Leserve rehearsing his speech.
When I got to see the video of the event later he was doing
exactly what I`d seen him do outside backstage.

So I have personally witnessed an int exec rehearsing.
It was completely choreographed.
The inflections, the smiles the gestures.
Not one moment of Guillames speech was spontaneous.


Also when Jeff Walker spoke one of the RPFers , who were
backstage crew, lowered the wrong giant book down behind
Jeff.

That was missing from the event video.

Also whatever happened to that RPFer was never shown.

Evil works hard at presenting its illusions; the natural do not have to do all that.

[Carmel]

Evil works hard at presenting its illusions; the natural do not have to do all that.
And if those speeches were natural and from the heart, instead of being so contrived, then they wouldn't have been so hard to sit through.

[xenusdad]

http://i41.tinypic.com/5e7nt2.jpg

[Blue Spirit]

David Miscarriage is an SP's SP, so of course he sounds ROBOTIC as he is like a puppet on a string going through the ROBOTIC motions being dictated from
some long lost point on the track of time from which he goes automatically
through the motions.

Additionally his superlative list of SUPERLATIVES that he uses continually is
enough to make any normal Non-Robotic person sick. :melodramatic:

RORSCHACH's post above is spot on.

[Pascal]

Why is Miscavige so good at speaking?

I mean does he train his text for weeks before the events? Or are mistakes cut out before the films are copied to other orgs?

Is he reading every word from the prompter or is he improvising?

Thank you for any answer!

You think DM is good at speaking????????????

Jeesh, your acceptance level is sure low buddy.

Good compared to who?

He sounds vulgar, which he is, natively. No presence and no leadership.

The wrong man in the wrong place, doing the right thing. Plato would weep.

[angel]

I never paid too much attention to the speeches. I remember in the 80's DM was a very energetic speaker, but I still wasn't interested.

The speaches regardless of who was giving them were inflated stats pushed to appear like Scientology was sweeping the planet. It was such BS, I decided it was a waste of my time to sit there and be lied to. LIES LIES LIES.

There was only one speaker that I ever listened to. I always thought Heber J. was a great speaker.

Jen

[Pascal]

I never paid too much attention to the speeches. I remember in the 80's DM was a very energetic speaker, but I still wasn't interested.

The speaches regardless of who was giving them were inflated stats pushed to appear like Scientology was sweeping the planet. It was such BS, I decided it was a waste of my time to sit there and be lied to. LIES LIES LIES.

There was only one speaker that I ever listened to. I always thought Heber J. was a great speaker.

Jen

Heber was a mormon. He's got those cute bible-thumper TRs. He's still a fag, with a deep voice.

Noone comes near LRH and even he was a corny sounding gringo from the 50s.

Scientology has yet to have anyone with class representing it or being an example. And Ron's first book was named Excalibur...

[Ted]

Heber was a mormon. He's got those cute bible-thumper TRs. He's still a fag, with a deep voice.

Noone comes near LRH and even he was a corny sounding gringo from the 50s.

Scientology has yet to have anyone with class representing it or being an example. And Ron's first book was named Excalibur...


As a Scientologist, I was always embarrassed to see Heber on TV going through the "never defend, always attack" drill. He acted like a rabid psycho once his buttons were hit.

LRH had some good moments, and some BORING moments. He was too often trying to be interesting rather than interested. It could sometimes take him an hour to get to the meat and potatoes of the lecture.

While I never met the man, it is said by those who knew him that John McMaster was an excellent speaker. He had class.

[Pascal]

As a Scientologist, I was always embarrassed to see Heber on TV going through the "never defend, always attack" drill. He acted like a rabid psycho once his buttons were hit.

LRH had some good moments, and some BORING moments. He was too often trying to be interesting rather than interested. It could sometimes take him an hour to get to the meat and potatoes of the lecture.

While I never met the man, it is said by those who knew him that John McMaster was an excellent speaker. He had class.

Yep McMaster sounded like he did. But he lacked character or something. And this business with being gay and all... Not very classy.

How did he end up? Is he dead yet?

[FinallyFree]

DM's "secret" is the thugs he hires for personal "security". He has no innate talent or ability, tho he does fancy himself a rather "big" thetan... And as we are witnessing, his leadership skills are a big zero, and he is a tech squirrel and 'dangerous auditor".

I have never heard about DM being a 'dangerous auditor' (though this does NOT surprise me) - excuse the ignorance, though, but would you please elaborate?

I felt DM was VERY boring, as a staff member I knew the information and graphs he used in his speeches were BS and completely exaggerated. I just simply would not be able to maintain focus on what he was saying. :yawn: :sleepy: - frankly with all of the "all hands that goes on right before the event - DM was a very nice sort of sleeping pill!

Heber Jentz is a putz but I definitely enjoyed his speaking above and beyond any of the other speakers.

[Pascal]

I have never heard about DM being a 'dangerous auditor' (though this does NOT surprise me) - excuse the ignorance, though, but would you please elaborate?

I felt DM was VERY boring, as a staff member I knew the information and graphs he used in his speeches were BS and completely exaggerated. I just simply would not be able to maintain focus on what he was saying. :yawn: :sleepy: - frankly with all of the "all hands that goes on right before the event - DM was a very nice sort of sleeping pill!

Heber Jentz is a putz but I definitely enjoyed his speaking above and beyond any of the other speakers.

DM ain't an auditor. I cannot picture him offering a session to anyone or give his staff group auditing. CoS will wreak of mediocrity until he's removed.