So they really monitor these boards huh?

[owl]

"Rathbun's real agenda is to hijack Scientology, the church says, pointing to postings on Internet message boards from "T. Paine'' — who the church said is Rathbun. One post concludes Miscavige "has no right to his position in Scientology. He was not appointed, elected or even nominated. He just grabbed it. It's time we grabbed it back.''

So they monitor these boards, huh? That is really creepy to me. How do they know that "T. Paine" is Marty? Is it well known? Or do they do all kinds of detective work? So creepy.

[degraded being]

On the boards they are jolly good fun. Except when you mention ECT. Boy does that ever send them round the bend. Quite loony actually.
But the creepy part is not on the board. It's when they blackmail people with
information from confessional files. And treat people like machines because they themselves act like machines. Lots of other creepy stuff too.

[Kookaburra]

"Rathbun's real agenda is to hijack Scientology, the church says, pointing to postings on Internet message boards from "T. Paine'' — who the church said is Rathbun. One post concludes Miscavige "has no right to his position in Scientology. He was not appointed, elected or even nominated. He just grabbed it. It's time we grabbed it back.''

So they monitor these boards, huh? That is really creepy to me. How do they know that "T. Paine" is Marty? Is it well known? Or do they do all kinds of detective work? So creepy.

No, I don't think they know that. I think they are taking a stab in the dark. As to who T Paine is and as to what Marty's agenda is. I'm sure it's someone's stat to connect posters nicks to IRL critics. :eyeroll:

[Feral]

No, I don't think they know that. I think they are taking a stab in the dark. As to who T Paine is and as to what Marty's agenda is. I'm sure it's someone's stat to connect posters nicks to IRL critics. :eyeroll:

True, but they do monitor the boards closely. Carmel and I have been contacted over our posts in the past.

According to BFG they print the lot and store it. :yes:

I really don't know how the people reading it cope with the cognitive dissonance, especially now the the beatings by Davd Miscavge have been confirmed. Makes you wonder if they are actually real thinking, feeling beings anymore. Or just numb wrecks like Marty seemed to be when he blew from int.

[DCAnon]

I think it's the best thing ever, actually. :D The moar the read, the moar they're forced to confront it!

[Lohan2008]

My mesage to OSA...

TOSS THE MIDGET !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcZSgVSW5AY&feature=related

[Voltaire's Child]

Of course they do. I got into so much shit with them over posting to a.r.s. and was personally told "we have people to do that" (post to a.r.s.). They send in operatives all the time. I've seen them on Beliefnet, I believe I've maybe seen a couple or so here, I've definitely seen them on a.r.s.

Gavinno Idda and Rhea Smith used to be in charge of that, may still be.

Bill Yaude was MikeSmith3 on a.r.s. some years back.

ESMB is one of the most active forums around- there's no way they wouldn't monitor it and attempt to mess it up.

[angel]

I have often wondered if a few of the posters are sitting in an org and its now part of their hat to do so. I am thankful for this thread.
A few months ago I was being harrassed by a couple of posters that I dont even remember their names but they would respond to my every post with name calling and jokes. I had to leave the site for a while. It reminded me though of how you would handle a public who had just encountered entheta about the church and you would say something even more ridiculous and say its not like we do that. I don't know what you call that... For example when I was new and my brother was telling me I would go to hell, a staffer said to me "It's not like we eat babies"...:nervous:
Anyway I got the feeling these two guys were harrassing me so I would leave the site... They were creating confusion and that made me suspicious.
Jen

[Daisy]

Yeah, they read the boards. OSA, Mark Warlick in Los Gatos org monitors the boards. My sister was told that by Nancy Mckenna who at the time was acting as Chaplain I believe.

Hi Mark!!!!:D

See ya at the next global.

[Zinjifar]

Note that Marty says that 25% of the DA material sent to the SPTimes by OSA was anti-Scientologists calling him a criminal :)

Gee; guess that means he isn't! Or, wait, he just admitted to conspiracy to obsrtuct justice for the 'Church', although he also (wrongly) claimed it was beyond the 'statute of limitations'. Hmmm. Circles within circles.

Zinj

[degraded being]

I think it's the best thing ever, actually. :D The moar the read, the moar they're forced to confront it!


I think I remember something from the "Student Hat".

Quote from memory:

"Number of times over equals certainty".

Meaning the more a person reads specific (scio "tech" or "policy")
text from the Saviour of This Sector the more certain they will become
about it.

OSA "entheta gatherers" must be very very certain by now!

[Mick Wenlock]

there are a few of those that monitor that actually take delight in their "work" those are the ones who, reading this are probably fondling themselves as they click through - it is that creepy behavior that they have - thank god they are reading these postings otherwise they would probably be off down the park ogling children and getting ready to write their o/ws. They are not nice people.

As for the chaplian at los gatos - there is no way he is "monitoring" anything. OSA would not trust him to monitor a turned off TV. If he is "monitoring" then it is just for the thrill of reading truthful things about the tawdry organization he/she is in.

One thing I think we need to bear in mind - a lot of people who get into Scientology do so because they are looking for truth. It gives them a thrill - so when they read things on boards like this THAT THEY KNOW ARE TRUE - it gives them a thrill.

[Daisy]

there are a few of those that monitor that actually take delight in their "work" those are the ones who, reading this are probably fondling themselves as they click through - it is that creepy behavior that they have - thank god they are reading these postings otherwise they would probably be off down the park ogling children and getting ready to write their o/ws. They are not nice people.

As for the chaplian at los gatos - there is no way he is "monitoring" anything. OSA would not trust him to monitor a turned off TV. If he is "monitoring" then it is just for the thrill of reading truthful things about the tawdry organization he/she is in.

One thing I think we need to bear in mind - a lot of people who get into Scientology do so because they are looking for truth. It gives them a thrill - so when they read things on boards like this THAT THEY KNOW ARE TRUE - it gives them a thrill.


No Mick, not the chaplain. My sister went to the chaplain and she said that Mark the DSA read the boards as part of his post. The DSA's in this area are the ones who take pics, follow protestors and read the boards.

[Alanzo]

Maybe Mary Ann up in Chicago reads the board, too then!!!

Hi Mary Ann!!

Mary Ann Ahmad, the DSA in Chicago, is the one who threatened my family when I was first getting out, and tried all kinds of other dirty tricks on me, too.

Everyone say hi the Mary Ann Ahmad!!!

Hey Mary Ann -

I moved to a new home. I have a new address now. Look it up - it's public record because I bought my home.

Yes, I did.

And Mary Ann! I am ready here too with surveillance cameras all around and other surprises if you should get up the funds to send anyone down here, which you probably won't because your cult's funds are dwindling every week. Week in and week out you have fewer public, less money, and more work to try to defend against the prolonged and sustained doom that your cult is experiencing from your own actions. But anyway, you can remain strong in the fact and know deep down in your heart that I would absolutely LOVE to catch you doing something - anything - illegal, don't you Mary Ann?

Even if it's just out-pr for your "church" - I want it. I want it all!

Because I will take that to the newspapers and to the police and see to it that you are exposed, shut down completely and sent to jail - whichever is the most effective.

People don't forget when you threaten their families, Mary Ann. Even if it is your sacred policy to do so, in the end, it causes Really Bad Karma.

Have you noticed that yet?

So, just to let you know - it's still very much ON, Mary Ann, just like the day you decided so many years ago to try to wreck my life.

Remember this: You did not succeed, and because you and your cult lied to me and then tried to destroy me after so many years of work and sweat and sacrifice on my part, I will never cease to work to see to it that you can not do this to anyone else.

Do you understand that?

This is a periodic message I have had for you for around 8 years now.

It will not stop, Mary Ann.

Not until you are unable to ever hurt anyone else ever again.

Sincerely,

Allen Stanfield
Bloomington, IL

[Alanzo]

Anyone else have a message for their local DSA's?

[Panda Termint]

Would the generic "FUCK U" be appropriate?

[Alanzo]

Would the generic "FUCK U" be appropriate?

Good. But it can be better. Try more TR1.

Use the name of your local DSA so they get to see their names on an Internet message board, and to experience the karma they are creating for themselves by being DSAs for a corrupt cult.

[Panda Termint]

Oh I see, Mr Bossy Boots, now you're gonna start product-officering and qual'ing the standards of my posts, eh?
You're welcome to my first effort if that's the way you feel! :D
BTW: The DSAs don't really get to read the Board, they get given select excerpts of posts suspected as being from their Public. If I addressed my DSA by name that might help with his confirmations/compliance reports.

I say again, To ALL DSAs everywhere, "FUCK U!"

[Alanzo]

Oh I see, Mr Bossy Boots, now you're gonna start product-officering and qual'ing the standards of my posts, eh?
You're welcome to my first effort if that's the way you feel! :D
BTW: The DSAs don't really get to read the Board, they get given select excerpts of posts suspected as being from their Public. If I addressed my DSA by name that might help with his confirmations/compliance reports.

I say again, To ALL DSAs everywhere, "FUCK U!"

All right. This is a good effort.

We can certainly live with that for now.

Does anyone else who is able to stand up and speak in their area have something to say to their local DSAs?

[Spirited]

Originally Posted by Panda Termint http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=262378#post262378)
Would the generic "FUCK U" be appropriate?
:roflmao:

Gosh! haven't OSA got anything better to do than sit and monitor a message board? One would think that they have enough on their plate these days.

this board is growing by the day. It Must be very time consuming for them to try to find out who everyone is and then go and harrass them.


A note re posts...How do you quote different posts or parts of in the one reply?

[CornPie]

...Mary Ann Ahmad, the DSA in Chicago, is the one who threatened my family when I was first getting out, and tried all kinds of other dirty tricks on me, too...

...People don't forget when you threaten their families, Mary Ann. Even if it is your sacred policy to do so, in the end, it causes Really Bad Karma...

...So, just to let you know - it's still very much ON, Mary Ann, just like the day you decided so many years ago to try to wreck my life...

...you and your cult lied to me and then tried to destroy me...

...I will never cease to work to see to it that you can not do this to anyone else...

...Not until you are unable to ever hurt anyone else ever again...
Alanzo, did you ever write up, and publicly post examples of the, "all kinds of other dirty tricks" that Mary Ann Ahmad and scientology did to you?

[Alanzo]

Alanzo, did you ever write up, and publicly post examples of the, "all kinds of other dirty tricks" that Mary Ann Ahmad and scientology did to you?

I've been a critic for 9 years, CornPie.

Yes.

They will all be immortalized forever on my blog soon.

Until then, look at my sig line, click on it, and go catch up.

[Alanzo]

Originally Posted by Panda Termint http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=262378#post262378)
Would the generic "FUCK U" be appropriate?
:roflmao:

Gosh! haven't OSA got anything better to do than sit and monitor a message board? One would think that they have enough on their plate these days.

this board is growing by the day. It Must be very time consuming for them to try to find out who everyone is and then go and harrass them.


A note re posts...How do you quote different posts or parts of in the one reply?

If you look in the lower right-hand corner, you'll see the "quote" button.

When you click on that, your reply appears with the full post quoted at the top, and room for you to reply at the bottom.

You can erase parts of the quote that you don't want, but be sure to leave the bracketed code intact at the beginning and the end of the quote.

[Spirited]

thanks alanzo. i know how to add a quote , just dont know how to add multiples:)

[Alanzo]

thanks alanzo. i know how to add a quote , just dont know how to add multiples:)

That's one of the other buttons to the right of the "Quote" button.

I've never really gotten good at that because I am so monomaniacal.

[Panda Termint]

That's one of the other buttons to the right of the "Quote" button.

I've never really gotten good at that because I am so monomaniacal.
Yes, the one with the + sign is the multi-quote button. Paul/DOF has a post on how-to-do multiquotes here http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=6682&highlight=multiquotes

[Spirited]

thanks guys.

[clamicide]

Anyone else have a message for their local DSA's?

Oh yeah....unfortunately the DSA I'd love to 'have a chat at' ain't' OT yet, so wouldn't be allowed to read the boards. Hopefully, that'll change soon and I can spew to my heart's delight.

[Alanzo]

Oh yeah....unfortunately the DSA I'd love to 'have a chat at' ain't' OT yet, so wouldn't be allowed to read the boards. Hopefully, that'll change soon and I can spew to my heart's delight.

Leave it for them anyway, as a gift for when they finally do achieve OT.

[Zinjifar]

Leave it for them anyway, as a gift for when they finally do achieve OT.

When *you* are OT you're oUt

Zinj

[Daisy]

Ok, since I'm in such a good mood. A big f*** you to Darlene Bright. Hey Darlene, did you ever see the photo I took of your car when you followed my family in Mt View. Oh yeah, I saw you too at SF talking to John Allender. Girl, you really need to take better care of yourself.

And Jeff Quiros, DSA of San Francisco Org. I'm so glad you spoke to Kev's family and showed Dan pictures of us protesting. Maybe you need to have another chat with Dan though because he told us all about it.

[Feral]

Maybe Mary Ann up in Chicago reads the board, too then!!!

Hi Mary Ann!!

Mary Ann Ahmad, the DSA in Chicago, is the one who threatened my family when I was first getting out, and tried all kinds of other dirty tricks on me, too.

Everyone say hi the Mary Ann Ahmad!!!

Hey Mary Ann -

I moved to a new home. I have a new address now. Look it up - it's public record because I bought my home.

Yes, I did.

And Mary Ann! I am ready here too with surveillance cameras all around and other surprises if you should get up the funds to send anyone down here, which you probably won't because your cult's funds are dwindling every week. Week in and week out you have fewer public, less money, and more work to try to defend against the prolonged and sustained doom that your cult is experiencing from your own actions. But anyway, you can remain strong in the fact and know deep down in your heart that I would absolutely LOVE to catch you doing something - anything - illegal, don't you Mary Ann?

Even if it's just out-pr for your "church" - I want it. I want it all!

Because I will take that to the newspapers and to the police and see to it that you are exposed, shut down completely and sent to jail - whichever is the most effective.

People don't forget when you threaten their families, Mary Ann. Even if it is your sacred policy to do so, in the end, it causes Really Bad Karma.

Have you noticed that yet?

So, just to let you know - it's still very much ON, Mary Ann, just like the day you decided so many years ago to try to wreck my life.

Remember this: You did not succeed, and because you and your cult lied to me and then tried to destroy me after so many years of work and sweat and sacrifice on my part, I will never cease to work to see to it that you can not do this to anyone else.

Do you understand that?

This is a periodic message I have had for you for around 8 years now.

It will not stop, Mary Ann.

Not until you are unable to ever hurt anyone else ever again.

Sincerely,

Allen Stanfield
Bloomington, IL

Geez Mary Anne, you really pissed hm off. Eight years and he's done untold damage to the cult, he hardly even stops to eat or sleep.

What you did to piss him off? Was it worth it?

If not, then what went wrong?

Did the tech not work, or did you misapply it?

[Fancy]

Hi! Teresa Reilie

I know what you do is what you think is good but I found the truth. It is why I finally asked for my refund. I am helping IFA which is a nice bunch of people.

I do think the one's who helped me in the church and I do miss the good people I know.

But I am not staying with Altered tech and moving on to a brighter future.

I know some of what you did in relation to Jerry Perkins and Ellie. I am sad about for I know you are a good person.

I just can't play that church game any more. I was tossed because I cried over the loss of my friends and anger over the out tech I discovered and everyone pretended all was ok but it was not. When Glenda Rose told me to keep my mouth shut or otherwise I am in for it. I guess I did not keep my mouth shut and I found out what the, I am in for it means. I am in a better place now. I am not being pushed to do something I was not ready for. I am being more me now not what the church people wanted me to be. I even know my former auditor I like is about a critic of the church as well. Boy people are leaving like crazy. Just tell ASHO to hurry up on the repayment.

What ticks me off the worst is you guys allowed it to be. Once I figured it all out I did not come back because I was not allowing it to be any more. You are responsible for what is and so was I. I now work for a better world the best way I can.

I feel sorry for you guys.


Barbara


Anyone else have a message for their local DSA's?

[Good twin]

Anyone else have a message for their local DSA's?

My local DSA was replaced a coupla years ago and died a few months back. I mean the DSA I worked most with was watched by most and handled by and with. She's gone. Permanently. I'd love to taunt her from this side of the subject, but they let her die. I'm damn sorry she's gone. She worked her ass off for the cult and I'm certain she never knew it was a scam. A true believer she was.

I don't know the new DSA, but I'm sure she isn't reading the boards. I don't think she's done much bridge or been in for very long. Probably talks to Sylvia whenever she gets overwhelmed.

Hi Sylvia. :wave: I guess you're up to your eyeballs with your guys TRs goin out and gettin in trouble with local law enforcement. Been lookin like Anon will be ownin your azz very soon.....

Could say that to Sylvia in DC.

[Wisened One]

OSA: Tell that portly guy with the grey beard and stern look video'ing us, we said Hi! :wave:

[Roan]

A couple of months ago I was talking with Marie Murillo, DSA, OSA, out in front of "her" Orange County Org. I blithely offered her an account to come post on OCMB. ( :confused2: why not?)
Her response was immediate and tell-tale. She pooh-poohed the idea, saying in effect: "Nah, there's just a bunch of nattering chronic malcontents there!" ( :whistling: she's not talking about me, is she? )

I got the impression that she has read and familiarized herself with OCMB but is probably not reading it everyday.

.

[supafreak]

To all members of OSA ANZO, I feel sorry for you, sitting on this sinking prison ship. I feel especially sorry for Cyrus, who looks thinner every time I've seen him over the last few months. When will your growling stomach convince you that it's time to bail?

[DCAnon]

Dear Sylvia,
LET MY TOMMY GO! They can keep you though.

<3 Me


Did someone say MaryAnne??? We met her in DC last July at our National Mall raid. She was pretending to be a reporter.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1272/myprettyvd2.jpg

[Alanzo]

Here's a really good website with lots of revealing articles on Scientology's Secret Service: The Office of Special Affairs (http://www.xenu-directory.net/scnorgs/osa1.html)

I doubt if they can do any of these things any more, there are so few people and so little money left for it, per recent reports on OSA's downfall, but this is what they would like to do, simply because L Ron Hubbard told them they should.

The question for any OSA member reading this post right now:

Did you REALLY ever think that getting involved in Scientology would end up like this for you?

[SchwimmelPuckel]

A couple of months ago I was talking with Marie Murillo, DSA, OSA, out in front of "her" Orange County Org. I blithely offered her an account to come post on OCMB. ( :confused2: why not?)
Her response was immediate and tell-tale. She pooh-poohed the idea, saying in effect: "Nah, there's just a bunch of nattering chronic malcontents there!" ( :whistling: she's not talking about me, is she? )

I got the impression that she has read and familiarized herself with OCMB but is probably not reading it everyday.

.Hmm.. Sounds like she could be SuzanneMarie..

:yes:

[Alanzo]

Did someone say MaryAnne??? We met her in DC last July at our National Mall raid. She was pretending to be a reporter.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1272/myprettyvd2.jpg

Mary Ann!!

They let you out of the basement at the Chicago Org long enough for you to get some sunshine handing out promo in DC!! Looks like you're getting a little sunburned in this photo.

Prolly had to go straight back to Chicago, and back down into the basement, to drink more coffee and smoke more cigarettes, and run your perverted OPs on the "enemies to Mankind".

Come up out of the basement, Mary Ann, and give me a call.

We'll chat.

I don't know Transylvanian, but I'll get a translator.

[clamicide]

A couple of months ago I was talking with Marie Murillo, DSA, OSA, out in front of "her" Orange County Org. I blithely offered her an account to come post on OCMB. ( :confused2: why not?)
Her response was immediate and tell-tale. She pooh-poohed the idea, saying in effect: "Nah, there's just a bunch of nattering chronic malcontents there!" ( :whistling: she's not talking about me, is she? )

I got the impression that she has read and familiarized herself with OCMB but is probably not reading it everyday.

.

Awww, come ON! A DSA can get an account on OCMB and I can't, even 2 years after I applied? I'm taking my toys and going home.....:sad:

Luckily for me, ESMB adopted me. Love you guys! :biglove:

[Voltaire's Child]

The shame of it is that she would have even said it about this forum. Any forum where there's any criticism.

[Panda Termint]

Awww, come ON! A DSA can get an account on OCMB and I can't, even 2 years after I applied? I'm taking my toys and going home.....:sad:Luckily for me, ESMB adopted me. Love you guys! :biglove:
Yes, in my opinion OCMB misses out on a lot of fire and inside data from the newly out by restricting registrations in this way. Roan?

[Carmel]

A Mr "bossy boots" from the cornfields (not mentioning any names :p ), all but ordered me to post on this thread, and tell our OSA and DSA cats where it is at.

For one thing, I've never been fond of taking orders from imbiciles or juniors. :whistling:

For another thing, some of us aren't 'all talk' - We have smarts and we know it's beneficial to have our guns loaded before we pounce and know that the element of surprize can be a wonder. We also know that it's not so smart to let the 'enemy' know our tactics or show our hand.

One could think that in ANZO it is all but over. It is not. It is only just the beginning, when ya consider where it can or could go from here. There is much in store, and that which could be and/or could come about here, which could or would in turn contribute to making a difference on other 'conts'.

So they really monitor these boards? - Yes they do. Hence, any briefs you'll get on what is going down this end, will be after the fact rather than before it.

So Mr "bossy boots", get off my back :eyeroll: , and know that if ya want an ANZO-ite to do something, you certainly don't tell them to do it. All ya gotta do is make 'em mad and then they'll act........may not be in your favour though! :coolwink: :giggle:

[Tiger Lily]

A Mr "bossy boots" from the cornfields (not mentioning any names :p ), all but ordered me to post on this thread, and tell our OSA and DSA cats where it is at.



:laugh:

Carmel this post had me doubled over laughing! Never heard the term "bossy boots" before but it's part of my lexicon now! If you and Mr. Bossy boots are ever in the same place I want to be there too; that would be unparalleled entertainment.

-TL