The bridge to Total Freedom......!?*

[Terril park]

I have it from a usually VERY reliable source, who has extensive contacts, that those on OT VII will be denied the level if they read the St Pete's Times:omg: :omg: :omg:

Perhaps an admission that the reports of beatings are true.

[ILived1984!]

I've heard the same from one of my reliable contacts as well.



I have it from a usually VERY reliable source, who has extensive contacts, that those on OT VII will be denied the level if they read the St Pete's Times:omg: :omg: :omg:

Perhaps an admission that the reports of beatings are true.

[Iknowtoomuch]

How do we get the article in Source or Advance magazine??:D

[FoTi]

So, maybe then they should all go read it and then get their money back if the church isn't going to deliver what they paid for. Just think....all of those people not paying for 6 months checks any more. :giggle:

I wonder how many will actually obey this rule and how many will decide to find out on their own.

[Whitedove]

I'm not even fuckin surprised. :hmmph:

I dont know what else to say because that is how they operate and it will get worse and worse and worse and worse and worse.

They even have a grip on those out like us. I mean, many of us wont talk, wont say who we are cause we are afraid of what they might do to us and we are not even scientologists anymore. And we now have alot of support if we compare to 5-10 years ago.

My god, if every single ex scientologists and scientologists would stand up and say enough, imagine the change!

ok, enough daydreaming.
:carryon:

[xseaorguk]

why dont we just find out who the people are doing OT7 and send them a copy to read thru the post, surely they couldn't resist that....

[DCAnon]

That's definitely do-able. So are emails and messages through facebook if you know any on there.


:3 Plus, tell the media about it. Not cultish behavior at alllll. Nope!

[Ex_SaintHill]

I mentioned to a "Clear" ,who is off lines but listening to the "new" tapes, the Saint Pete's time article. He read it, and his answer was : " I don't believe that high OTs in upper management are beating each other". Duh... no chance to get the truth to these thickheaded people. They don't believe it anyway. :confused2:

[Axiom142]

I mentioned to a "Clear" ,who is off lines but listening to the "new" tapes, the Saint Pete's time article. He read it, and his answer was : " I don't believe that high OTs in upper management are beating each other". Duh... no chance to get the truth to these thickheaded people. They don't believe it anyway. :confused2:

You are probably right ESH,

Most would not believe it, not right away at least. But, it might just plant some seeds of doubt and get them wondering…

That is why the response by the CoS is so stupid.

Davis admitted that they used confidential information on the defectors. This tells anyone with an ounce of brainpower that your personal data and most intimate secrets are not safe.

Davis also admitted that in the Sea Org, they routinely throw people overboard off large ships and into ponds. Quite apart from almost certainly breaking health and safety laws, this is hardly the way most people think members of a real religion behave. It’s what we expect of totalitarian regimes run by tyrants.

And, Davis said that senior executives in the highest level of Scientology management physically abused other staff over a period of several years and no one did anything to stop it. And we are supposed to believe that this bunch of OTs, the most powerful beings on the planet, were so completely cowed and in fear that they couldn’t write a few KRs, go to the police or even send one telex to li’l Davey and prevent this from happening? If someone could have done this, why not David Miscavige himself?

This last admission does two things:

1. It tells us that Scientology does not produce super-power beings who can even stand up for themselves, let alone salvage a whole planet.

2. And it tells us that there was a culture in the top levels of Scientology that tolerated physical violence to anyone deemed to be out of favour with the despot in charge. Sounds more like Stalin’s Russia than an organisation that promises Total Freedom.

The cult’s PR machine is desperately trying to hold back the avalanche, but this is impossible now. So, they are resorting to threatening their most important customers. This will surely make at least some realise that something is very wrong.

Axiom142

[Ex_SaintHill]

Axiom 142, Very well explained. Where did you get the Davis admissions? Any links to it?

I definately told this guy in order to plant a seed of doubt. Maybe I was successfull, but I'm not sure. This guy has been clear and off lines for 10 years. He has no work and no money for "services", but listening to tapes. He was however one person who actually stayed in contact with me after my SP declare. Maybe I can get him to see the light.

[Axiom142]

Axiom 142, Very well explained. Where did you get the Davis admissions? Any links to it?

I definately told this guy in order to plant a seed of doubt. Maybe I was successfull, but I'm not sure. This guy has been clear and off lines for 10 years. He has no work and no money for "services", but listening to tapes. He was however one person who actually stayed in contact with me after my SP declare. Maybe I can get him to see the light.

http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/church-response.shtml

Listen to tape no. 5 where Davis sounds like he is on the verge of hysteria.

And here is the bit where they admit the overboardings:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/article1012575.ece

Just keep talking to your friend and giving him the truth. The fact that he is still willing to stay in contact with you shows that he knows something is wrong.

Axiom142

[Terril park]

I mentioned to a "Clear" ,who is off lines but listening to the "new" tapes, the Saint Pete's time article. He read it, and his answer was : " I don't believe that high OTs in upper management are beating each other". Duh... no chance to get the truth to these thickheaded people. They don't believe it anyway. :confused2:

Telling them what they can and can't read will probably do the trick. :)

[Ex_SaintHill]

Listen to tape no. 5 where Davis sounds like he is on the verge of hysteria.

And here is the bit where they admit the overboardings:



Lol, This guy Is completaly mental on that tape. He sounds so unconvincing! :roflmao:

@ Terril: LOL, That always works. Even with little kids :)

[Blue Spirit]

Terril, nothing about your post surprises me.

Since most on Solo Nots are being slowly and certainly
directed toward oblivion, they should look at the SP
Times article and escape sooner(?), rather than later.

Although I don't have the exact reference available
I'll paraphrase it from LRH:

"One of the oldest tricks in the universe is to tell
someone that it is not OK to look over there", or it
might be: "....it is dangerous to look over there."

So you guys be sure to write a KR on me for verbal data. :whistling: LOL

[Feral]

why dont we just find out who the people are doing OT7 and send them a copy to read thru the post, surely they couldn't resist that....

This is a good idea, but we're a bit late because the willingness of the public to read something from Rinder or Rathbun has been damaged by threats from the most ethical group on the planet. It might still be worth doing though

A bulk e-mail from a throw away e-mail address directing OTVIIs to the "friends of LRH" web site (www.friendsoflrh.org) could get a high hit rate. Except the link isn't working for me. I hope the CofS hasn't had it taken down.

This is from experience. I know OSA eventually manages to come up with some shore story as to why OTs need to keep away from various source of data and people. They have managed to dead agent me now and I get a pretty terse response from culties when I try direct contact.

[Alanzo]

I'm not even fuckin surprised. :hmmph:

I dont know what else to say because that is how they operate and it will get worse and worse and worse and worse and worse.

They even have a grip on those out like us. I mean, many of us wont talk, wont say who we are cause we are afraid of what they might do to us and we are not even scientologists anymore. And we now have alot of support if we compare to 5-10 years ago.

My god, if every single ex scientologists and scientologists would stand up and say enough, imagine the change!

ok, enough daydreaming.
:carryon:

I don't think this is daydreaming.

Why not start with Exes?

Maybe there can be some kind of a program that exes are started on that they apply to delete the tyranny of the Church of Scientology from their lives so that they can speak up without fear?

Kind of like a "Bridge to Total Freedom From the Church of Scientology"?

[Rmack]

It just blows my mind every time I see an example of this;

high level Laffy-ites who are suppose to be 'OT' and 'cause' and 'in present time', 'cause over mest,' etc, etc, but are so fragile and vulnerable that even exposure to negative viewpoints is going to do terrible harm to them!

I suspect that the HUGE contradictory nature of this has been a major factor in waking people up and getting them free from the cult. I know that I never believed the idea that hearing about OT 3 would harm me. I found out reading Bents book, but I would have listened to anyone, or read anything if I had had the chance previous to that.

It must take some major league selective amnesia to buy into the idea that even people who have gone way up the bridge can be brought low so easy.