Hundreds of pages of AnonOrange/Stone/Fausto/Beating Legal Docs at Angrygaypope.com

[AngryGayPope]

I've posted hundreds of pages of searchable PDF files from lawyer Graham Berry regarding all the current drama in Riverside. Links to five different documents are at my website angrygaypope.com (http://www.angrygaypope.com).

This should answer a lot of questions and start a lot of new ones. Like ... gay porn at Gold base????? Thanks a lot to all the internet snoops who helped us pull this off in five days, especially the law looker uppers and Fausto dirt diggers. You know who you are!

JUST SOME OF THE SUBJECTS INCLUDE
Ongoing Scientology trial opening Oct. 30th implicates Stone and pulls him in - Stage 1, lawyer's review of Fausto incident, Anonorange's version of the Fausto incident

Fifty sickening pages of Scientology's infamous "Anonymous Handbook" Stone waved, Nathan Baca/KESQ TV web pages on cult. I don't know if the evil handbook has been posted elsewhere? Has it?

Fausto's dirty laundry and bond info, Celebrity Karoake judge Jeff Stone, Riverside DA destroyed evidence, Gold Base info, stills of Stone at Murietta courthouse that were shown to Supers Oct. 6, 2009

Hemet Police station destroyed evidence, resubmitted evidence, David Miscavige is Violent, L. Ron Hubbard Policy Letters (HCOPLs)

Applicable facts, Scientology handling of "suppressive persons", bail should be reversed and case dismissed, controversy of judge's bail ruling

[Iknowtoomuch]

Oh no, not the gay porn thing again.:duh:
There goes your credibility...

[comgud]

I've posted hundreds of pages of searchable PDF files from lawyer Graham Berry regarding all the current drama in Riverside. Links to five different documents are at my website angrygaypope.com (http://www.angrygaypope.com).

This should answer a lot of questions and start a lot of new ones. Like ... gay porn at Gold base????? Thanks a lot to all the internet snoops who helped us pull this off in five days, especially the law looker uppers and Fausto dirt diggers. You know who you are!

JUST SOME OF THE SUBJECTS INCLUDE
Ongoing Scientology trial opening Oct. 30th implicates Stone and pulls him in - Stage 1, lawyer's review of Fausto incident, Anonorange's version of the Fausto incident

Fifty sickening pages of Scientology's infamous "Anonymous Handbook" Stone waved, Nathan Baca/KESQ TV web pages on cult. I don't know if the evil handbook has been posted elsewhere? Has it?

Fausto's dirty laundry and bond info, Celebrity Karoake judge Jeff Stone, Riverside DA destroyed evidence, Gold Base info, stills of Stone at Murietta courthouse that were shown to Supers Oct. 6, 2009

Hemet Police station destroyed evidence, resubmitted evidence, David Miscavige is Violent, L. Ron Hubbard Policy Letters (HCOPLs)

Applicable facts, Scientology handling of "suppressive persons", bail should be reversed and case dismissed, controversy of judge's bail ruling

The handbook is out there, but doesn't hurt to offer it in more places.

[Dulloldfart]

I've posted hundreds of pages of searchable PDF files from lawyer Graham Berry regarding all the current drama in Riverside. Links to five different documents are at my website angrygaypope.com (http://www.angrygaypope.com).

This should answer a lot of questions and start a lot of new ones. Like ... gay porn at Gold base????? Thanks a lot to all the internet snoops who helped us pull this off in five days, especially the law looker uppers and Fausto dirt diggers. You know who you are!



Thanks for posting all this, Pope, and for all the behind-the-scenes helpers. There's a hell of a lot of work behind all that legal filing. Graham Berry deserves whatever support people can give him. Stone seems to be getting more and more tainted by his associations, like helping shoot a promo video for apparently-scummy (see AO's declaration about the recent false imprisonment) bail bondsman Fausto (gotta love that name) after Fausto gave Stone's campaign $3,900 in violation of the law forbidding any bail licensee to give such support to a public official.

On the gay porn thing, this is an excerpt from AO's 5 October 2009 supplementary declaration (http://www.angrygaypope.com/docs/jeff_stone_anonorange_faustos_bail_bonds/ANONORANGE_SUPPLEMENTAL_MEMO_JEFF_STONE_FAUSTOS_BA IL_BONDS.pdf) [my emphasis, and my arbitrary paragraphing to improve readability]:


The building behind the area I was attacked upon is a film production studio known as "the Scottish castle." Upon information and belief, the tax exempt Church of Scientology rents the Scottish castle out to private film makers. Upon information and belief, I understand that this private film making rental income includes revenue from the production of some gay-themed pornographic videos/DVDs at the Church of Scientology facility which also has a policy of requiring its female staffers to have abortions in the family planning clinics of Riverside County. I acquired this information during a visit to San Jacinto, California (very close to Gilman Hot Springs, the location of Scientology's international headquarters).

I was at a restaurant/bar where I casually spoke to the owner about Gold Base, as I have with many other establishments in the area. The proprietor did some contact work at Gold Base many years ago and worked in a building where there was no possible exit (there was intentionally no knobs on the doors from the inside, obviously used for restraining people, and in clear violation of civil and fire codes). The building was pointed out to me by the proprietor on a map of Gold Base. This proprietor told me that several months ago a group of approximately 7 well-dressed patrons that she had never seen before walked in at approximately 10:00 PM and enjoyed a meal and drinks for a few hours.

They seemed very jovial and laughed a lot. The very next night at approximately the same time, the same crew walked in and sat down for more food and drinks. The owner, being interested in their frequenting of the establishment inquired about the nature of their business. They said that they had just come back from filming a gay-themed pornographic video at Golden Era Productions, informally known as Int Base or Gold Base, which is the location of Scientology's international headquarters described above. This was quite surprising, considering, that most scientology's operations, including Golden Era Productions are Tax-Exempt corporations and certainly unexpected to partake in such activities. I was personally shocked to hear this and have since corroborated that story with two other acquaintances in the Hemet/San Jacinto area, one of which said it was "news all over town".

AO can't post personally, but maybe someone else could post more about this. AO doesn't have a whole lot of credit at ESMB or WWP, but other witnesses in the local area might have more, and this would be a really juicy story for any journalist/editor willing to run with it.

Paul

[lie2meiluvit]

I was reading the thread on all of this on wwp and they were talking about giving this info to Stone's opponents. That would be hillarious:D

[Dulloldfart]

I was reading the thread on all of this on wwp and they were talking about giving this info to Stone's opponents. That would be hillarious:D

If nothing else, it would teach them not to fuck with people protesting the CofS or else their own indiscretions would probably get ferreted out and exposed. :)

Paul

[lie2meiluvit]

If nothing else, it would teach them not to fuck with people protesting the CofS or else their own indiscretions would probably get ferreted out and exposed. :)

Paul

Nothing better than a little dirty laundry aired in public :D and knowing Anon's it's probably already done.

[skydog]

Let me see if I get this strait. Some un-named person (owner of a local restaurant) told AGP that some other un-named people patronizing the restaurant told him or her that they were making gay porn films at Gold Base. Sorry, but I smell bullshit.

[AngryGayPope]

Oh no, not the gay porn thing again.:duh:
There goes your credibility...

Ick! Porno is so boring. it's like watching someone else eat ice cream. Why not just have some. My website hollywoodmuscles.com (http://hollywoodmuscles.com)is sexy but its not porno. It's softpore-cornography.

[AngryGayPope]

Let me see if I get this strait. Some un-named person (owner of a local restaurant) told AGP that some other un-named people patronizing the restaurant told him or her that they were making gay porn films at Gold Base. Sorry, but I smell bullshit.

No it's not about ME. It's AO's legal doc. It's about him. More arrogant fact-getting without facts skydog.

The karaoke poster is great but doesn't photocopy well but the other evidence is a hoot or typical scientology horribly depressing.

[AngryGayPope]

In an abrupt turn of character, Mr. Stone will feel an irresistable urge to attend AnonOrange's trial which is expected to run from Halloween to Guy Fawkes day!

[skydog]

No it's not about ME. It's AO's legal doc. It's about him. More arrogant fact-getting without facts skydog.

The karaoke poster is great but doesn't photocopy well but the other evidence is a hoot or typical scientology horribly depressing.

I apologize for the misstatement AGP, but this allegation is, in legal terms, hearsay. Factually it is 'double hearsay' (someone said that someone else told them). That allegation (I am not commenting on any others) is, IMHO, bullshit until there is some credible 'evidence' to the contrary.

[SchwimmelPuckel]

However.. If it's 'news all over town' in hemet and surrounding areas that they make gay porn at Golden Era Studios, then that's the 'public image' that exists..

If The Sinister Scam Cult of Scientology is dissatisfied with it.. Well, why don't they apply their breakthrough Public Relations Tech and repair that Public Image?

I don't mind that Public Image.. So I'll do nothing to mend it..

They are very secretive out there in Hemet.. They must do something slimy for sure!

:yes:

[Zinjifar]

1) I doubt it.
2) I doubt anybody much believes it.
3) Whether it 'harms' Scientology's reputation or not, what *does* affect criticism of Scientology is that disinformation destroys the credibility of *information*, which is the problem.

Zinj

[AngryGayPope]

Anonorange had Fausto served with papers at about 2 PM pacific time Wed. Oct. 7. A professional server refused to do it for money when he found out fausto was the recipient. Orange had to get the sherrifs to do it which was great since they feature free delivery and are conveniently located right up the street from fausto's bail bonds.

The form asked for comments on Fausto. Orange wrote "he is dangerous with an office full of guns and he likes to taze people." The form asked "what does his car look like" - "it is a giant white stretch limo with his name and phone number on it."

Meanwhile Oranged visited various bureaucrats looking for his "bail surrender form" which is a critical piece of evidence relating to Stone, Fausto and Scientology. It is officially MISSING. The lady he talked to begged not to be on camera. Orange eventually turned it off and they had a nice discussion. She eventually figured out somehow that the form is in DOWNTOWN RIVERSIDE. A place it should never be. He is going there to check on it. Why is it there? To be examined or tampered with???

[Lohan2008]

Let me see if I get this strait. Some un-named person (owner of a local restaurant) told AGP that some other un-named people patronizing the restaurant told him or her that they were making gay porn films at Gold Base.

AGPope and Scientology share the need to make stats up :melodramatic:

[AngryGayPope]

The story is in the legal dox for a reason because AO needs to tell everything he knows about gold he feels safe to reveal at this time. AO has told me this story months ago and I have kept mum. Wait till you hear the non-amusing things I'm keeping mum about from him. I'll tell ya all some Halloween or shortly after.

According to Anonorange this story was told to him and confirmed by others in Hemet where he was spending a lot of time doing research on gold, visiting surveyors and being menaced by the giant cop Sgt. Morin at the Hemet Sheriffs station who tried to arrest anon Xenubarb and went after anon Resistance instead (!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJt_GWgp9o

By placing the strange but nevertheless relevant story it in this document AO can, in the future, mention this story in the media safely. Because it was already released to the world in legal documents which were submitted way back in 2009. Get it? This allows him to talk about all relevant aspects of Gold Base and everything he heard to the media when he is spreading the word about the endless abuses there: human trafficing, coerced abortions, the fence, the rpf, happy valley, stacey moxon's electrocutions (she exploded!), sleep deprivation, beatings, the circular run, digging sewage out of pits, Muriel Dufresne's political contributions (she has five job titles) oh plus Stone, who is a mess all his own! Have I mentioned David Miscagive is registered to vote there but hasn't even in presidential elections?

[SchwimmelPuckel]

1) I doubt it.
Me too.. That gay porn are actually made there.

2) I doubt anybody much believes it.
Who knows? - I don't.. We're talking about what people in Hemet think's is going on at New Era. CoS, with all their secrecy, arrogance and bullying, makes people speculate.

3) Whether it 'harms' Scientology's reputation or not, what *does* affect criticism of Scientology is that disinformation destroys the credibility of *information*, which is the problem.True.. But we cannot keep people from speculating.. If gay porn is what they think is going on, then that's what they think.

Has nothing to do with facts..

I'd be interested to verify that this is indeed a suspicion held by residents around Hemet.

Well, Scientology PR.. When I was trained in that, surveys were all the rage. You do surveys to find out things, like Public Image. So why doesn't CoS work out some questionaires and start hitting the doorbells in all of Hemet? - To find out what people think about them.. And find out who are antagonistic and needs some intimidation and harrasment?

I'm just wondering..

Of course, Scientology's public image is that of a mafia like group. Threatening and intimidating. Spying and manipulating. Lying and downright evil. Brainwashers and baby snatchers.. The Sinister Scam Cult of Scientology! - We hardly need a survey to know that.

But do people in Hemet think they're making gay porn too?

:unsure:

[skydog]

By placing it in this document AO can, in the future, mention this story in the media or the on net without fear of being sued by scientology for libel by saying it. Because it was already released to the world in legal documents which were submitted way back in 2009. Get it?

Clever.

Maybe he can avoid a libel suit, but he cannot avoid the fact that, by making frivolous claims, he weakens his credibility as well as the credibility of other critics. Not to mention that fact, that the court has the inherent authority to find him (and his attorney) in contempt and/or impose monetary sanction for filing frivolous pleading. There may also be other civil remedies not based on defamation that are available to the church in these circumstances.

[Graham Berry]

This morning I appeared at the Murrieta South West Justice Center for AO. He had filed motion papers: (1) requesting his bail bond be cancelled and that he be released upon his own recognizance (O/R); (2) that the recorded bail violation and arrest be expunged; and (3) that the Court dismiss the entire case “in the interests of justice.” PDF’s of the motion papers may be read at www.angrygaypope.com

Among those seated in the public gallery of the courtroom were the following: AGP, AO, Mark Lowell and Scientology’s inimitable Kendrick L. Moxon, Esq; my very own Inspector Javert (where’s my Cosette?). There were also a much larger than usual gaggle of Deputy District Attorneys in the court room.

The Judge said he had read all of the papers. He reviewed the background to his original orders and acknowledged that there may have been some ambiguity, omission and resulting confusion. Accordingly, he stated that his tentative rulings were to: (1) grant the motion to release the Defendant upon his own recognizance subject to a stay away order, (2) deny the motion to expunge, (3) deny the “suggestion of dismissal.” The judge then gave me an opportunity to make an oral argument as to why he should change his mind and his tentative rulings.

This is the argument I made to the Judge on AO’s request that the case be dismissed:

• This case involves a rare if not unique set of facts and events.

• Court has discretion to dismiss the charges against the Defendant sua sponte, in the interests of justice, pursuant to the provisions of Penal Code § 1385 which states in pertinent part: (a) The judge may, either of his or her own motion or upon the application of the prosecuting attorney, and in furtherance of justice, order an action to be dismissed.

• It is true that a defendant does not have a right formally to make a motion before a Court to dismiss a complaint in furtherance of justice under P.C. § 1385.

• It is also true, and well settled, that a defendant may "informally suggest" that the Court consider dismissal on the Court's own motion. (People v. Smith (1975) 53 Cal.App.3d 655, 657; accord, People v. Superior Court (Flores) (1989) 214 Cal.App.3d 127, 137; see Rockwell v. Superior Court (1976) 18 Cal.3d 420, 441-442.)

• [The California Supreme Court held in People v. Konow, (2004) 32 Cal.4th 995, that it is appropriate for a court to exercise its Penal Code 1385 authority to dismiss charges in a medical marijuana case.]

• The facts would also support a dismissal sua sponte under Penal Code §995 (a) (2) (B). Indictment or information set aside where Defendant committed without reasonable or probable cause, as Defendant contends occurred here.

• There are a galaxy of affirmative defenses, any one of which the jury may accept at trial (the history and circumstances here are such that there could even be jury nullification).

• At it’s worst, even assuming arguendo a prosecution verdict, this is a case about a slight technical trespass upon unfenced, unused, improperly sign posted land.

• Continuing arguendo, because the land was neither fenced nor properly posted against trespassing as required by law, the Defendant may have strayed a few feet over an invisible line on the unfenced desert dirt.

• There was no damage or occupancy. Instantly the Defendant was swarmed and hogtied. There was no proper warning to leave or reasonable time given to leave. Therefore the arrest was unlawful.

• Even if lawful, there clearly was excessive and potentially deadly force in circumstances where force is not permitted as a matter of law. [A photograph of AO biting the dust was shown to the Court].

• In consequence the Defendant has been arrested on multiple occasions resulting in three days in the County jail, over seven thousand dollars in medical and survey fees, permanent medical injuries and other consequences far beyond the probable punishment of a guilty person in these particular circumstances.

• The Defendant is entitled to equal protection under the fourteenth amendment and none of what has happened would have likely happened had the complainants been different persons and entities. With different entities and defendants the District Attorney would probably have dismissed this case several false arrests and days at the County Jail ago.

I know that this Court is not in the habit of dismissing cases sua sponte. However, if ever there was a case in the Court’s judicial career that was deserving of it’s discretion to dismiss in the interests of justice; this case must surely be one of the top contenders.

The only damages and injuries that cannot be undone are those that have been done to the Defendant, not the complainant.

If the Defendant is guilty then, in the particular circumstances, justice was still done long ago.

If the Defendant is innocent then a grave injustice was done to him long ago.
Either way, this is now the opportunity to end this saga not only in the interests of justice but also in the best interests of the various parties and the others involved.

• As a matter of law, justice, judicial discretion and fair play, the “suggestion” of dismissal should prompt the Court to dismiss the case sua sponte.

Mr. Choquette humbly requests that the Court now exercise its authority and sound discretion by dismissing the charges currently pending against him.

• Finally, there has been no written opposition served by the People.

• In those circumstances it is well established law and practice that a non-filing party should not be heard in oral opposition.

My submissions were followed by the Deputy District Attorney’s argument that the case did not merit dismissal.

The judge was unmoved from his tentative ruling to deny the “suggestion of dismissal.” Despite what you see in Law & Order, a court rarely dismisses criminal cases at this juncture. Accordingly, I was not stunned or stung by the result and I appreciated the subsequent compliments on the argument made for dismissal.

AO is free upon his own recognizance and can now get his bail money back. He must stay at least 100 yards from the Gold Base property line although he may use Sanderson Road on Thursday evenings to attend a regular commitment.

The Defense got to pitch some of its arguments and to start showing why this case should include the secular suppressive person policies, etc. which created a mindset motivating the Scientology security guards to ignore AO’s civil rights and the applicable laws regarding the specific circumstances and manner in which a trespasser may be removed from properly posted open land.

All in all it was a good day for the defense. Moxon did not smile or speak with me. Afterwards he did speak with the Deputy District Attorney appearing against me.

The next scheduled events are the Trial Readiness Conference on October 19th and the trial on October 30, 2009. However, the trial may not actually commence until November 9, 2009.

[parrotnutz]

This morning I appeared at the Murrieta South West Justice Center for AO. He had filed motion papers: (1) requesting his bail bond be cancelled and that he be released upon his own recognizance (O/R); (2) that the recorded bail violation and arrest be expunged; and (3) that the Court dismiss the entire case “in the interests of justice.” PDF’s of the motion papers may be read at www.angrygaypope.com

Among those seated in the public gallery of the courtroom were the following: AGP, AO, Mark Lowell and Scientology’s inimitable Kendrick L. Moxon, Esq; my very own Inspector Javert (where’s my Cosette?). There were also a much larger than usual gaggle of Deputy District Attorneys in the court room.

The Judge said he had read all of the papers. He reviewed the background to his original orders and acknowledged that there may have been some ambiguity, omission and resulting confusion. Accordingly, he stated that his tentative rulings were to: (1) grant the motion to release the Defendant upon his own recognizance subject to a stay away order, (2) deny the motion to expunge, (3) deny the “suggestion of dismissal.” The judge then gave me an opportunity to make an oral argument as to why he should change his mind and his tentative rulings.

This is the argument I made to the Judge on AO’s request that the case be dismissed:

• This case involves a rare if not unique set of facts and events.

• Court has discretion to dismiss the charges against the Defendant sua sponte, in the interests of justice, pursuant to the provisions of Penal Code § 1385 which states in pertinent part: (a) The judge may, either of his or her own motion or upon the application of the prosecuting attorney, and in furtherance of justice, order an action to be dismissed.

• It is true that a defendant does not have a right formally to make a motion before a Court to dismiss a complaint in furtherance of justice under P.C. § 1385.

• It is also true, and well settled, that a defendant may "informally suggest" that the Court consider dismissal on the Court's own motion. (People v. Smith (1975) 53 Cal.App.3d 655, 657; accord, People v. Superior Court (Flores) (1989) 214 Cal.App.3d 127, 137; see Rockwell v. Superior Court (1976) 18 Cal.3d 420, 441-442.)

• [The California Supreme Court held in People v. Konow, (2004) 32 Cal.4th 995, that it is appropriate for a court to exercise its Penal Code 1385 authority to dismiss charges in a medical marijuana case.]

• The facts would also support a dismissal sua sponte under Penal Code §995 (a) (2) (B). Indictment or information set aside where Defendant committed without reasonable or probable cause, as Defendant contends occurred here.

• There are a galaxy of affirmative defenses, any one of which the jury may accept at trial (the history and circumstances here are such that there could even be jury nullification).

• At it’s worst, even assuming arguendo a prosecution verdict, this is a case about a slight technical trespass upon unfenced, unused, improperly sign posted land.

• Continuing arguendo, because the land was neither fenced nor properly posted against trespassing as required by law, the Defendant may have strayed a few feet over an invisible line on the unfenced desert dirt.

• There was no damage or occupancy. Instantly the Defendant was swarmed and hogtied. There was no proper warning to leave or reasonable time given to leave. Therefore the arrest was unlawful.

• Even if lawful, there clearly was excessive and potentially deadly force in circumstances where force is not permitted as a matter of law. [A photograph of AO biting the dust was shown to the Court].

• In consequence the Defendant has been arrested on multiple occasions resulting in three days in the County jail, over seven thousand dollars in medical and survey fees, permanent medical injuries and other consequences far beyond the probable punishment of a guilty person in these particular circumstances.

• The Defendant is entitled to equal protection under the fourteenth amendment and none of what has happened would have likely happened had the complainants been different persons and entities. With different entities and defendants the District Attorney would probably have dismissed this case several false arrests and days at the County Jail ago.

I know that this Court is not in the habit of dismissing cases sua sponte. However, if ever there was a case in the Court’s judicial career that was deserving of it’s discretion to dismiss in the interests of justice; this case must surely be one of the top contenders.

The only damages and injuries that cannot be undone are those that have been done to the Defendant, not the complainant.

If the Defendant is guilty then, in the particular circumstances, justice was still done long ago.

If the Defendant is innocent then a grave injustice was done to him long ago.
Either way, this is now the opportunity to end this saga not only in the interests of justice but also in the best interests of the various parties and the others involved.

• As a matter of law, justice, judicial discretion and fair play, the “suggestion” of dismissal should prompt the Court to dismiss the case sua sponte.

Mr. Choquette humbly requests that the Court now exercise its authority and sound discretion by dismissing the charges currently pending against him.

• Finally, there has been no written opposition served by the People.

• In those circumstances it is well established law and practice that a non-filing party should not be heard in oral opposition.

My submissions were followed by the Deputy District Attorney’s argument that the case did not merit dismissal.

The judge was unmoved from his tentative ruling to deny the “suggestion of dismissal.” Despite what you see in Law & Order, a court rarely dismisses criminal cases at this juncture. Accordingly, I was not stunned or stung by the result and I appreciated the subsequent compliments on the argument made for dismissal.

AO is free upon his own recognizance and can now get his bail money back. He must stay at least 100 yards from the Gold Base property line although he may use Sanderson Road on Thursday evenings to attend a regular commitment.

The Defense got to pitch some of its arguments and to start showing why this case should include the secular suppressive person policies, etc. which created a mindset motivating the Scientology security guards to ignore AO’s civil rights and the applicable laws regarding the specific circumstances and manner in which a trespasser may be removed from properly posted open land.

All in all it was a good day for the defense. Moxon did not smile or speak with me. Afterwards he did speak with the Deputy District Attorney appearing against me.

The next scheduled events are the Trial Readiness Conference on October 19th and the trial on October 30, 2009. However, the trial may not actually commence until November 9, 2009.
Thank you for the updates, Mr. Berry.

I am anxiously awaiting this trial. I doubt it will go well, as this is a thoroughly screwed up county that thinks it can do no wrong and everyone is guilty until proven innocent, and maybe not even then. Reminds me of the "old south and the good ole boys" (except the south has made great strides, and RivCo has not.
I was falsely arrested in Riverside County, and the DA (finally!) after at least several months dropped the charges. I was held in the downtown Riverside lockup (NOT a decent place) for 2 days, and held naked (freezing) in the gym overnight (with other inmates) while corrections officers searched the cells for (supposed) contriband (none was found, not surprising). We were not allowed to drink, eat, sleep, or use the restroom until a few gals peed on themselves (not being able to hold it any longer), and then we were only allowed to go in one at a time, while the officer observed us peeing to make sure we didn`t pass anything. That was AFTER the... naked "bend over, spread your legs, and cough bit". I think I went 24 hours without anything to drink.
I never got my bail money back or an apology. I, and many others, are convinced that they arrest and hold as many prisoners as possible so the money making machine continues to run. The corrections officers don`t want to lose their jobs, nor do the sheriffs, parole officers, judges, DA`s, bailbondsmen, etc.
The whole situation was shocking (having never been held in jail)! One gal had been locked up for 6 months because she was unable to get her dogs licensed because she didn`t have a car (nor the money) to get the dogs to the vet for rabies (and other) shots! There were many more injustices that I heard and saw, too.
Anyway, nothing surprises me so far as the so-called "justice" system goes in Riverside County. It is as corrupted as can possibly be. You need not do anything wrong to be arrested and detained. Even if you are able to post bail, it can take 24 hours to get out.
I can understand why scientology gets away with what it does in RivCo. You can bet that there`s a lot of shady shit going on. I`d love to see a bunch of flash pickets happen at gold base. The dumb sheriff`s don`t know how to handle it, and the cult probably drives them crazy with repeated calls.
I swear they hire the dumbest sheriiffs they can find...can`t even read a TRO, the name on it, or tell the difference between tic-tacs and dangerous pills.

[Smurf]

Graham:

All in all, sounds like you had a great day. Congratulations for kicking some butt today in court. Having Rick there instead of Elliot can mean only one thing; Rick needs to invest in some diapers because he's going to be soiling alot of pants 3 weeks from now.

Poor Rick has the dwarf breathing down his sweaty, pulsating neck again.

:dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3:

[AngryGayPope]

Having Rick there instead of Elliot can mean only one thing; Rick needs to invest in some diapers because he's going to be soiling alot of pants 3 weeks from now.

Poor Rick has the dwarf breathing down his sweaty, pulsating neck again.

I wondered about that myself and which one of them would show up and why? So you are saying that DM has forced Moxon here for a pretty bland but successful court outing? Usually it has been that old Fart Abelson often with Catherine Fraser on busy events.

I asked Graham that. WHy is Moxon, the number two guy, coming out here for this minor hearing? Can't somebody else handle it? It's not like one trip to the courts will debrainwash his assistant is it? I thought Moxon was in Florida on that copyright case? Is that done? Maybe the Fausto thing that dragged Stone into this so fast has him back here. But you are right his pants will be soiling soon. There's no way the Orange beating has been or is going to be good for him. Orange's survey puts him five feet inside the line. The govt is doing it's own survey for some reason. All of this ignoring the fact that beating people up in a field is wrong even if he did cross their invisible boundary surrounded by fake signs. And the easements are a mess with them not following the road at the part where it bends. But the biggest problem for Moxon is getting a UNANIMOUS GUILTY verdict. I mean, if just ONE juror says he is innocent he is innocent.

He has colored his hair dark brown now, not red. No matter how many times it happens there is not a much more awful feeling than suddenly seeing Moxon. Even though I knew he might be there you don't see him at first as he is unremarkable in a crowd. Then you sit down and look around and GAAAK! There he is! I'm sure I pass many sociopaths every day in LA (after all I ride public transit) but I don't KNOW they are sociopaths. We know this with Moxon and it wigs me out!

[AngryGayPope]

His speech was very well written even if I don't understand legal jargon. He delivered it impeccably. The judge, recognizing he made a mistake earlier on by not making his instructions clear, let AO be around any scientologists and not need bail. I was scared he would drop the charges and we would be without our bulliest pulpit! But that rarely happens because a commissioner (he's a lawyer the judges pay to help them) doesn't want a reputation of throwing out cases. Then the DA will get mad at him and not give him cases and he won't make money. He dresses like a judge and that's what you call him though.

You should have seen him read the crimes this tattooed skanky woman had against her. It practically took him more time to read all the charges than I spent going before him last time! Hooking, suspended license, probation violation, on and on and she has to take an AIDS test, attend AIDS eduction, attend mommy lessons, cough up lots of dough, no drivers license and on and on! Meanwhile she's whining about the fines!

This all took quite a long time and I didn't like having mine wasted. Then I looked across the room at Kendrick Moxon, Legal MajorDomo of Scientology, having his valuable time wasted. Suddenly I wished that slut lady had even more charges!