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dontscamme
10th October 2009, 11:50 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219498/A-class-victory-Katie-Holmes-Suri-starts-Catholic-pre-school.html


Katie Holmes has won a battle with her Scientologist husband Tom Cruise to enrol their daughter Suri in a Catholic pre-school.

The Church of Scientology has always been a bone of contention between the couple and Tom wanted three-year-old Suri to be raised a Scientologist.

But last week Katie enrolled the toddler at the Catholic Charities Yawkey Centre For Early Education And Learning in Boston, Massachusetts.

(More at link)

Div6
11th October 2009, 12:03 AM
Wow. Wonder how long he will be filming in Bawwwwston? That kinda puts him close to the East Coast action...

Lohan2008
11th October 2009, 12:06 AM
Katie Holmes looks like she could do with a GOOD feed !

http://farahrahman.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/suricruise.jpg

Tigger
11th October 2009, 12:10 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219498/A-class-victory-Katie-Holmes-Suri-starts-Catholic-pre-school.html



(More at link)

Looks like Tom and Scientology aren't doing too good. It also says Katie hasn't been seen at a CO$ for five months.....if this is true and not gossiip. Maybe she was on strike to get Tom to agree to the Catholic pre-school. I am WOMAN, Hear Me Roar!

Tigger

Lohan2008
11th October 2009, 12:10 AM
Ever noticed how Suri Cruise is always photographed travelling or walking around with parents Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes... and never playing in a park or going to kiddie birthday parties? It's making Page Six speculate that isn't socialising like a normal toddler.

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/?blogentryid=230429&showcomments=true

Iknowtoomuch
11th October 2009, 12:32 AM
This says so much.

Tom didn't get his way.
Tom allowed this regardless of Scientology.
Katie put their child there saying she isn't totally on board with Scientology.
DM is hating this.


Maybe just maybe Tommy boy has finally realised that his marriages have never been made better with Scientology. Exactly the opposite.
:D

Carmel
11th October 2009, 12:37 AM
Katie Holmes looks like she could do with a GOOD feed !
<snip>



Ever noticed how Suri Cruise is always photographed travelling or walking around with parents Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes... and never playing in a park or going to kiddie birthday parties? It's making Page Six speculate that isn't socialising like a normal toddler.
<snip>

Ridiculous assumptions, but that aside, neither this thread nor any thread on ESMB is a place for gossip about a little girl.

Iknowtoomuch
11th October 2009, 12:39 AM
Ridiculous assumptions, but that aside, neither this thread nor any thread on ESMB is a place for gossip about a little girl.



If you look, I'm pretty sure the first one isn't about their child.

Carmel
11th October 2009, 12:43 AM
If you look, I'm pretty sure the first one isn't about their child.

Hey, I wasn't objecting to the OP or the thread. I was referring to the two posts I quoted.

Iknowtoomuch
11th October 2009, 12:48 AM
Hey, I wasn't objecting to the OP or the thread. I was referring to the two posts I quoted.


Right but one of them isn't about a little girl. Do you think Katie is too thin?

Carmel
11th October 2009, 01:20 AM
Right but one of them isn't about a little girl. Do you think Katie is too thin?

Sorry IKTM, I'm not gonna "play".

Free to shine
11th October 2009, 02:41 AM
Yay! Good on Katie, I hope she has the strength to stand her ground. She is standing at the abyss, and this is a good move towards safety.

degraded being
11th October 2009, 03:42 AM
Poor little suri. The battle for her mind and which method of mindfuck her silly parents are going to use on her.

She'll probably keep more money in the bank with the catholics, but unforturnately her little bank will be full of engrams.

After Daddy has donated money to her school and weaseled a lapsed catholic into the principal's job,
little suri will grow up with vague memories of the name L.Ron Hubbard, somewhere in the small print on the bottom of the pages of her study materials.

When little suri goes to her first confession, as a young child, as all good catholics do, the priest will say, "You have to say three Hail Mary's". Little suri will look up and say, "Oh is that my amends?"

Little suri will go to the school nurse when she grazes her knee and will be asked to do an OW write-up and specify what she did to pull it in.

Poor little suri will be so conflicted. With Daddy and Mommy being all tense about their own conflicts and Daddy having earlier similars with that ozzie Catholic sp he used to be married to and disagreements about the children. Daddy's gonna need a holiday on Freewinds doing OT10 to find out the amazing mind blowing secret to a perfect life. Uncle Dainty dave, the delightful little dwarf that suri loves so much cos hes a big person but actually still more littler than her, will help Daddy, his bestest fweind. A kind of with-holdy uneasiness in the home will prevail. Daddy's grin will be ear to ear, but Mommy will always has a dampening "concerned look" on her face.

Daddy will have to step in at some point to stop little suri becoming a little catholic body thetan, subtely reminding Daddy that Katies heart belongs to Daddy but Katies mind belongs to Katie, not Daddy It's going be too much restim for a control freak..ah sorry, I mean an OT, to bear.

little Katie will wonder why Daddy spends hours alone in the bedroom.....let's not think of what she might conjecture as both the Catholics and the Scicultists infuse her mind with ideas about how bad it is to "do things" to yourself. One day she'll be relieved to find that it's not that at all. Phew!! - But it's something to do with that electronic thing over there. Daddy's hooby is playing with that thing and he goes in to do it when Mommy and Daddy's a r c goes wobbly.

Little suri will have a niggling feeling that she is a problem.

When Daddy has succeded in manipulating her into the org without Mommy present, a kind person will offer a fun thing to do; a personality test.

What a kind person, she understands little teen suri so much, like, wow! she knows that, feeling like a problem to her parents, is ruining her life! That - is - so - a -mazing! The kind lady says. "Is that getting any better?" Katie stutters and stumbles and the kind lady says, "If you don't do something about this it is going to get worse". The lady shuts her mouth and waits for the impact, then says,
"Scientology can help you with that".

programmer_guy
11th October 2009, 03:56 AM
Looks like Tom and Scientology aren't doing too good. It also says Katie hasn't been seen at a CO$ for five months.....if this is true and not gossiip. Maybe she was on strike to get Tom to agree to the Catholic pre-school. I am WOMAN, Hear Me Roar!

Tigger



‘They had been having huge problems agreeing on her school. To say they were having arguments is putting it mildly – but Tom came around to the idea in the end.’

Holmes, 30, has not been seen at the Church of Scientology for more than
five months.


I smell divorce in the air. :grouch:

I can't see how this will go on for the rest of their lives. Eventually, Katie will have to dump Tom for the sake of their daughter. I just hope that she does this sooner rather than later.

Stephanie
11th October 2009, 03:56 AM
Katie wanting her child to learn the basics by experienced teachers isn't asking that much.

Considering Will Smith started his own school to educate his kids, it would appear the cat is out of the bag concerning the quality of established scio schools.

degraded being
11th October 2009, 03:58 AM
Katie wanting her child to learn the basics by experienced teachers isn't asking that much.

Considering Will Smith started his own school to educate his kids, it would appear the cat is out of the bag concerning the quality of established scio schools.

And the basics of the Catholic religion. Nicole Kidman's religion.

dontscamme
11th October 2009, 04:05 AM
There are a number of plausible scenarios and different paths that Suri's life could take, and any type of conflict between her parents will certainly have an impact on her.

However, I don't believe that having two parents who are unified dedicated Scn'sts is a good thing, either, so for now I am just happy that she may have an opportunity to avoid growing up as a cult-indoctrinated Scn kid.

Some would argue that Catholicism is no better, but I believe that she will have more freedom in that type of environment than she would in Scn.

Stephanie
11th October 2009, 04:25 AM
And the basics of the Catholic religion. Nicole Kidman's religion.

The Catholic religion is not only Nic's, Katies, but even Tom's childhood religion and he went to study in a seminary to be a priest.

Kookaburra
11th October 2009, 04:54 AM
At least Suri will see different viewpoints and will be able to evaluate and make her own choices. So much better than being indoctrinated, seeing the scam and abuse, leaving and having your parents and siblings refuse to associate with you.

bluewiggirl
11th October 2009, 05:07 AM
Catholic schools are also notoriously good at producing ex-Catholic graduates, for those of you who are concerned that she's getting indoctrinated either way.

I still hope those two get away from Tom sooner rather than later, but this kind of stufff has been going on so long now I really can't bring myself to care much any more. Ping me when divorce papers are filed.

Iknowtoomuch
11th October 2009, 05:07 AM
Sorry IKTM, I'm not gonna "play".



There's nothing to play. That comment wasn't about Suri.
The question asked has an obvious answer. And thus the comment about her eating more was justified.

Smurf
11th October 2009, 09:14 AM
If the article is true, it should be noted that TC is only slated to be in the Boston area for another month or so before moving onto Puerto Rico for additional location filming, so Suri's pre-school experience at the Catholic school is very temporary.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1013743/locations

Sassy
11th October 2009, 03:23 PM
Aside from all the stories written about the Cruise family, they really do look happy together playing with their daughter. They probably haven't been back in L.A. due to shooting in Australia, Boston etc. for Katie to be "seen" at a scio center. Maybe Tom learned from his 2nd marriage that having his wife happy is easier than fighting for his "religion" to be his kids' sole source of education. What a concept---balance. Anyway, I don't wish divorce on anyone & maybe these two will make a go of it.
Glad to see whoever started this thread didn't get the wrath & scorn :omg: of the posters who *loathe* other's postings when they don't like the topic. :thumbsup:

Wisened One
11th October 2009, 05:23 PM
Ridiculous assumptions, but that aside, neither this thread nor any thread on ESMB is a place for gossip about a little girl.

:thumbsup:

FoTi
11th October 2009, 05:40 PM
Is it possible that Katie will be the one to start Tom on the road to truth?

Wisened One
11th October 2009, 06:42 PM
Is it possible that Katie will be the one to start Tom on the road to truth?

A possibility. That or he may end up divorcing Katie like he did Nicole. I am glad that Katie stuck to her guns
tho and didn't enroll Surie in a scn school! :thumbsup:

Tom of Helatrobus
11th October 2009, 07:05 PM
Ridiculous assumptions, but that aside, neither this thread nor any thread on ESMB is a place for gossip about a little girl.

Scientology is not a place for a little girl... seriously...

Reasonable
11th October 2009, 08:06 PM
Hmmmm. be edjumacated by Scientologists or Catholics? either way you don't get to use your own opinions. I'm all for it.

Maybe she can just be raised by wolves?

Lohan2008
11th October 2009, 11:49 PM
any thread on ESMB is a place for gossip about a little girl.

Sorry Carmel, but seeing as we don't have factual stories about Suri's life; I and others have to rely on the Tabloids to feed our interests.

That is human nature, like it or not.

Carmel
12th October 2009, 12:05 AM
Scientology is not a place for a little girl... seriously...
Well, fortunately, the little girl in question, is not trapped within the confines of the SO, her parents aren't on staff, and she has a mother who seemingly adores, loves and cares for her, along with the courage to do what she feels is best for her.

Not all scio kids are "doomed" to the fate of the "usual", and especially not when it comes to children of scios who are public. It's the assumption/judgement that they are and that they are all in the same boat, that irks me.

To assume that Suri doesn't get to play in a park or go to kiddie birthday parties, simply because there aren't tabloid photos of her doing so, IS ridiculous.

Lohan2008
12th October 2009, 12:10 AM
To assume that Suri doesn't get to play in a park or go to kiddie birthday parties, simply because there aren't tabloid photos of her doing so, IS ridiculous.

True, lets hope that Suri gets to have a happy and care-free child-hood.

I told you I was trouble
12th October 2009, 05:18 AM
Aside from all the stories written about the Cruise family, they really do look happy together playing with their daughter. They probably haven't been back in L.A. due to shooting in Australia, Boston etc. for Katie to be "seen" at a scio center. Maybe Tom learned from his 2nd marriage that having his wife happy is easier than fighting for his "religion" to be his kids' sole source of education. What a concept---balance. Anyway, I don't wish divorce on anyone & maybe these two will make a go of it.
Glad to see whoever started this thread didn't get the wrath & scorn :omg: of the posters who *loathe* other's postings when they don't like the topic. :thumbsup:


:stickpoke:

What I 'loathed' about your (now closed) thread Sassy, was the implication that a stunning and very beautiful little girl was possibly autistic due to the 'movement of her hands'.

Lynn Fountain Campbell
12th October 2009, 06:06 AM
I smell divorce in the air. ...


More likely, Katie's "contract" is probably almost up, and Tom is trying to play nice to get her to "re-up."

Lynn

scooter
12th October 2009, 06:38 AM
Just noticed that this story is the most-read in Sydney's major paper on-line.

"Holmes wins Scientology battle with Cruise."

Scientology is getting headlines again - OSA, this is a heavy traffic alert! :omg:

It's nearing Thursday.:D

programmer_guy
12th October 2009, 06:59 AM
More likely, Katie's "contract" is probably almost up, and Tom is trying to play nice to get her to "re-up."

Lynn

I didn't know that Katie was on staff anywhere.
AFAIK, she is public.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Lynn Fountain Campbell
12th October 2009, 07:05 AM
I didn't know that Katie was on staff anywhere.
AFAIK, she is public.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

She's "on staff" as Tom's wife (my opinion) and -- like Nicole -- will probably get a certain amount of money for staying on for a certain length of time. To prove how heterosexual he is. :)

Lynn

degraded being
12th October 2009, 10:52 AM
She's "on staff" as Tom's wife (my opinion) and -- like Nicole -- will probably get a certain amount of money for staying on for a certain length of time. To prove how heterosexual he is. :)

Lynn

OK LYNN!! THATS IT!!! KNOWLEDGE REPORT!!

FinallyFree
12th October 2009, 04:50 PM
She's "on staff" as Tom's wife (my opinion) and -- like Nicole -- will probably get a certain amount of money for staying on for a certain length of time. To prove how heterosexual he is. :)

Lynn

Yeppers! :yes:

bluewiggirl
12th October 2009, 05:54 PM
She's "on staff" as Tom's wife (my opinion) and -- like Nicole -- will probably get a certain amount of money for staying on for a certain length of time. To prove how heterosexual he is. :)

Lynn

I read somewhere that her prenupt included 3 million dollars for every year that they were married. I would need to go dig that up again to figure out how reliable the source really is, but if that's the case it is pretty much employment.

uniquemand
12th October 2009, 05:56 PM
Beats working.

FinallyFree
12th October 2009, 08:42 PM
I read somewhere that her prenupt included 3 million dollars for every year that they were married. I would need to go dig that up again to figure out how reliable the source really is, but if that's the case it is pretty much employment.

You couldn’t pay me enough to be his wife – yuck.

This is not a win until Katie Holmes is OUT, preferably with her daughter in tow.

bluewiggirl
12th October 2009, 09:30 PM
You couldn’t pay me enough to be his wife – yuck.

This is not a win until Katie Holmes is OUT, preferably with her daughter in tow.

That's because you're not a whore or a teenage fangirl. What was she, like 19 when they hooked up?

Edit: Okay, she was like 25 when they got engaged, whatever :bleh:

altruistichedonist
12th October 2009, 09:37 PM
I smell divorce in the air. :grouch:

Divorce from who. Tom Cruise. Scientology. or that sick little manipulating squirrel called "he who must not be named" because it might just give him another reason to falsify the stats.

Hey ... maybe a priest can perform an exorcism on Suri to remove the "he who must not be named" body thetan.

Lynn Fountain Campbell
12th October 2009, 10:02 PM
OK LYNN!! THATS IT!!! KNOWLEDGE REPORT!!

:roflmao:

degraded being
12th October 2009, 10:29 PM
I read somewhere that her prenupt included 3 million dollars for every year that they were married. I would need to go dig that up again to figure out how reliable the source really is, but if that's the case it is pretty much employment.

Prostitution with extras?

bluewiggirl
13th October 2009, 02:32 AM
Prostitution with extras?

There's extras alright. Extra CRAZY.

Royal Prince Xenu
13th October 2009, 04:33 AM
If this manages to save one little girl from $cn and potentially leads others away from the cult, then it can only be good.

Sassy
13th October 2009, 01:14 PM
:stickpoke:

What I 'loathed' about your (now closed) thread Sassy, was the implication that a stunning and very beautiful little girl was possibly autistic due to the 'movement of her hands'.

What I did was post someone else's implication that Suri could be autistic. I was looking to see what others thought, that's all. The thread was closed because there was another that someone else had started with the same topic, which, shame on me, I should have noted.

I told you I was trouble
13th October 2009, 03:56 PM
What I did was post someone else's implication that Suri could be autistic. I was looking to see what others thought, that's all. The thread was closed because there was another that someone else had started with the same topic, which, shame on me, I should have noted.

Sassy,

Your thread was closed for the same reason the first one was closed.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=306429#post306429

The following is also relevant here (apparently) ... post number 1.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=13765&page=8


Sassy, if you have chosen to take offence that is a shame, but I (and others) also took offence at a beautiful and completely innocent little girl being used as a pawn in an effort to denigrate scientology, there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed IMHFO and this was one of them.

I also doubt it was in the best interest of ESMB.