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Gottabrain
30th December 2009, 06:18 AM
In 1977, all of PAC except the senior execs were on beans & rice for the longest, longest time. Eventually, even the execs were on it. It lasted at least three months, maybe four.

Needless to say, nobody stuck around to talk to each other immediately after dinner. And it was really bad for the ozone, too.

During this horrendous time of having almost no money allocated for anything, we at Cedars Estates and Pac Training Org (trained the EPF) were greeted at muster one day with someone in purchasing.

He told us we should not be stealing toilet paper from the bathrooms at AOLA and ASHO. He patiently explained to us the correct way to utilize toilet paper to maximize its benefits, that scrunching was wasteful, and demonstrated a folding technique whereby one could actually use just 2 or 3 sheets if it was folded properly.

All of this with a straight face. :roflmao:

But! There was toilet paper at ASHO and AOLA! We went for it.
.:happydance:

Balthasar
30th December 2009, 12:21 PM
:roflmao:
Rice & beans for ages, no toilet paper!
The guy from purchasing explaining where to get one, haha!
The timing couldn't have been better!
:happydance:

Bea Kiddo
30th December 2009, 02:59 PM
I remember being on beans and rice longer than that. I am pretty sure into the 80's - maybe 83 or sdo, we were still on beans and rice. At least CLO was (where my mom worked). I was a child, but I had to eat beans and rice too. And oatmeal for breakfast. Everyone else got corn flakes, and we had to eat oatmeal.

Type4_PTS
30th December 2009, 03:15 PM
In 1977, all of PAC except the senior execs were on beans & rice for the longest, longest time.


Hmmmm.........it seems odd to me that ALL of PAC were on rice & beans except for the senior execs. The senior execs were also responsible for the financial state of affairs, were they not? If THEY were on rice and beans like the others I bet that they would have found a faster solution to getting more money into the food budget.

Type4_PTS
30th December 2009, 03:16 PM
And oatmeal for breakfast. Everyone else got corn flakes, and we had to eat oatmeal.

I actually LIKE oatmeal, and prefer it over cornflakes, but imagine I'd get tired of it pretty quick after eating it 4-5 days in a row! :omg:

Bea Kiddo
30th December 2009, 03:28 PM
I actually LIKE oatmeal, and prefer it over cornflakes, but imagine I'd get tired of it pretty quick after eating it 4-5 days in a row! :omg:

7 days in a row. For months! And as a child, I would have much preferred the corn flakes!

wazn
30th December 2009, 03:43 PM
Hmmmm.........it seems odd to me that ALL of PAC were on rice & beans except for the senior execs. The senior execs were also responsible for the financial state of affairs, were they not? If THEY were on rice and beans like the others I bet that they would have found a faster solution to getting more money into the food budget.

Beans and rice always included exempt execs, be it PAC or Flag. I experienced long beans and rice periods at both and certainly the CMO weren't eating beans and rice during any of the B&R periods I lived through. But, seeing as they "are Ron", that'd have been like including him :duh:

CMO weren't the only exempt ones.

And, if it wasn't beans and rice, it wasn't all that much better a lot of the time. PAC for a while had a rule about only mothers and children being allowed a cup of milk at a meal. Oh, the games that were played for a cup of milk. or part of one, or the remains of one...

GreyWolf
30th December 2009, 04:17 PM
Beans and rice always included exempt execs, be it PAC or Flag. I experienced long beans and rice periods at both and certainly the CMO weren't eating beans and rice during any of the B&R periods I lived through. But, seeing as they "are Ron", that'd have been like including him :duh:

CMO weren't the only exempt ones.

And, if it wasn't beans and rice, it wasn't all that much better a lot of the time. PAC for a while had a rule about only mothers and children being allowed a cup of milk at a meal. Oh, the games that were played for a cup of milk. or part of one, or the remains of one...

Ya think if Ron had put himself every time and Org's stats went south that policy would not have lasted that long?

Disinfected
30th December 2009, 04:48 PM
Either in the 80's or early 90's, when I was public at AOLA, I knew that I had better check and see if there was TP before embarking on any mission that required same. I would sometimes have to go from floor to floor checking toilets before I could "take care of business".

Another time, I had a cold and dared to bring a roll of TP from one of the bathrooms into the MAA space so I could blow my nose and not interrupt my work every five minutes. What's his name Gary? went ballistic on me that I was attempting to degrade his space and would I bring a roll of TP into a fine restaurant :thumbsup:

EDIT: Gary Jacobs. That was my early encounter with him. We came to be pretty friendly. On the subject of OT and ethics, he once told me that there were OT child molester(s) in prison.

Type4_PTS
30th December 2009, 05:17 PM
Ya think if Ron had put himself every time and Org's stats went south that policy would not have lasted that long?

Yeah, if Ron had accepted responsibility as full cause you'd of thought he'd also be eating beans and rice if he thought it was appropriate for the others. ;)

Type4_PTS
30th December 2009, 05:19 PM
7 days in a row. For months!

People in the state prisons are probably treated better than that! :omg:


Do you ever eat oatmeal anymore?

Disinfected
30th December 2009, 05:23 PM
Yeah, if Ron had accepted responsibility as full cause you'd of thought he'd also be eating beans and rice if he thought it was appropriate for the others. ;)

Ron would not put himself at the "effect" of "Scientology" and neither will Miscavige. And therein lies the rub. In the end, it is simple tyranny. Ron was somewhat of a "benevolent tyrant". Miscavige, not so much.

Wisened One
30th December 2009, 07:18 PM
Hubby and I ate a lot of beans n' rice as Staff, too. (It was cheap, and we lived in Miami aka Little Cuba, so...:confused2:)

Type4_PTS
30th December 2009, 09:24 PM
Hubby and I ate a lot of beans n' rice as Staff, too. (It was cheap, and we lived in Miami aka Little Cuba, so...:confused2:)

Well, I lived in Tampa for many years where there are many Cuban and other types of spanish restaurants, and I love Yellow Rice and Black Beans if it is made well. I never did have rice and beans as a staff member or my brief time in the S.O., so don't know how it was prepared, but even if done well, it's not something I'd want to live on for months at a time.

Kutta
30th December 2009, 09:55 PM
At Saint Hill UK Stonelands there were a few GO staff berthing during the 1978-81 period I was there. When SO staff were on beans & rice, GO staff got meat and 3 veg type food, eating next to us in the dining room. It kinda stuck in the craw. And in retrospect, that was when GO was bringing Sci down with their illegal snow white shenanigans. Same old wrong target.

dianaclass8
30th December 2009, 10:08 PM
I gotta tell you a funny story about rice and beans....when I was on lines at ASHO I used to see all those staff members eating their lovely rice and beans at dinner time....and my mouth would water...for that is the stapple food for most Latin countries and we eat that practically every day...we love it!

Now...on the other hand being forced to eat them is another story and I was aware of that...

One day I was asked to audit Chary Garrison later Chari Curry...she was the Sr C/S at ASHO FDN...well...we were having problems with her metab and she looked pale and tired...but we managed to go in session...while on a break, she told me she was not going to be able to come to session for a few days because she had no money...

What I found out was that they were no longer feeding them rice and beans...but instead...they were not feeding them anything at all...and that the staff had to buy their own food from their meager stipend...(I cannot call it salary)

And Chari had run out of money and now she was going to go with out food until payday...I was irate to say the least!

Here she is the Sr C/S of ASHO F and cannot get auditing because they are starving the staff!!!!

I wrote a long KR to her senior or to somebody...I forgot...and it flapped all over that a public (me) knew about their shennanigans...to make the story short...they went back to rice and beans...

Diana

AnonyMary
30th December 2009, 11:03 PM
:omg:So thats why there was never any toilet paper and soap at ASHO back then, lol!! Many public like myself used to bring in our own, just in case. I thought it was because the upper orgs in LA were broke :coolwink:

Mark Plummer who worked in treasury at ASHO back then, explains, using a typical week, where all the money went:
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, nl.scientology
Date: 23 Apr 2001 22:31:22 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 24 2001 1:31 am
A Comment On Finance - was Re: I'm sooooooo pissed (http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/a72995151500a729)
Warrior is Mark Plummer (http://warrior.xenu.ca/1997-1116.html)

Mary McConnell

Leon
31st December 2009, 08:52 AM
I once lived on peanuts for a week while on staff. Was all I had.

michaelangelo
31st December 2009, 12:29 PM
I remember well the beans and rice days of the 70's at AOSH UK. Our cook was quite inventive. We had bean supreme, beans loaf, bean con carne (without the carne) and some days for a change, just plain old beans and rice.
If I remember correctly , at about that time LRH (or someone else) wrote "Ron's solution to inflation". It wasn't refering to the internal inflation from eating beans and rice. But the inflation going on at the time in the economy. The prices for Scio services rose each month which caused the G I to take off like a rocket. For a while we ate very well.

Dulloldfart
31st December 2009, 12:43 PM
I remember well the beans and rice days of the 70's at AOSH UK. Our cook was quite inventive. We had bean supreme, beans loaf, bean con carne (without the carne) and some days for a change, just plain old beans and rice.

Mick Parkee and Ian Feldmesser. A few times I asked them to write up a "beans and rice" cookbook for the SO, but as far as I know they never did. They got really inventive over the stuff and put a lot of create into it, and it was actually very tasty.

Paul

Bea Kiddo
31st December 2009, 03:09 PM
People in the state prisons are probably treated better than that! :omg:


Do you ever eat oatmeal anymore?

Oh yeah. Being preggos - the little one loves oatmeal.

When I was in Portland in 96, I had to buy my own food. I had no idea how to cook, so I would buy beans and rice and eat it! But it was the sweet beans. I love those! Yum. Its the red beans I can't stand anymore.

michaelangelo
31st December 2009, 06:28 PM
Mick Parkee and Ian Feldmesser. A few times I asked them to write up a "beans and rice" cookbook for the SO, but as far as I know they never did. They got really inventive over the stuff and put a lot of create into it, and it was actually very tasty.

Paul
Mick Parkee was the "Galloping Gourmet" of beans and rice and Bennie Da Costa used to make a curry with the the ingredients. It was ok.
Actually better than the sausages we used to eat.

Kutta
31st December 2009, 08:58 PM
Yeah, and didn't Mick manage to vary the beans and rice by serving us cole slaw and baked potatoes some nights? I think there may even have been grated cheese on the cole slaw, and maybe some raisins or currants. I loved it. I reasoned he was eking this out of the beans and rice budget. Although beans and rice is s'posed to be a completely nutritious dish, it lacks the vitality of green leafy stuff. After so much beans and rice, I was craving for that.

Axiom142
31st December 2009, 10:36 PM
Good old Mick! Last time I was at St Hill, he was working in the AO.

I must have been quite lucky, I only remember having beans and rice a couple of times. This was a good thing as I had a bit of a problem digesting the rice. It was brown rice and very stodgy. Don’t think it was cooked properly either.

Now, I only have rice if it is smothered in curry. Mmmm.

For breakfast, we only ever had powdered milk (yuk!), muesli (actually quite nice), white bread and eggs. And tea of course. Rather monotonous and lacking in fresh fruit and vegetables.

If I was really hungry when I got back from ‘work’ in the evening, I would make myself a fried egg sandwich.

And, at the weekend, I would go into East Grinstead and buy myself a small, individual strawberry cheesecake from Sainsbury’s as a treat.

Talk about low havingness!

Axiom142

Axiom142
31st December 2009, 10:43 PM
I nearly forgot! I don’t remember running out of toilet paper when I was on staff, but it was really cheap and flimsy stuff. The sort that was easy to accidentally stick your finger through (urgh!) and would instantly disintegrate when it got wet.

I think I used to but my own when I could afford it.

When I was public at St Hill, finding the toilets (aka ‘bathrooms’) without paper towels was a regular occurrence. I always tried to avoid having to require toilet paper, but I did notice that this was absent on a number of occasions as well. Hardly a good advertisement for ‘the most able group of beings on the planet’. :eyeroll:


Axiom142

michaelangelo
31st December 2009, 11:11 PM
Beans and Rice a la Mick Parkee

2089

Cadetification
1st January 2010, 01:05 AM
I wrote a long KR to her senior or to somebody...I forgot...and it flapped all over that a public (me) knew about their shennanigans...to make the story short...they went back to rice and beans...

Diana

And thus the end of public being allowed to audit staff...:eyeroll:

Cadetification
1st January 2010, 01:09 AM
Ironic isn't it that rice/beans and toilet paper sort of go hand in hand, so to speak? :whistling:

AnonyMary
1st January 2010, 01:46 AM
Ironic isn't it that rice/beans and toilet paper sort of go hand in hand, so to speak? :whistling:

:roflmao:

thetanic
1st January 2010, 03:10 AM
Ironic isn't it that rice/beans and toilet paper sort of go hand in hand, so to speak? :whistling:

I was thinking that this thread title is one that exes would understand but non-members would just go, "huh?"

The further you were in, the more real it is to you. I was never on rice and beans, but I did eat rather a lot of them as they were affordable. Still don't like beans.

Challenge
1st January 2010, 11:46 PM
In 1977, all of PAC except the senior execs were on beans & rice for the longest, longest time. Eventually, even the execs were on it. It lasted at least three months, maybe four.

Needless to say, nobody stuck around to talk to each other immediately after dinner. And it was really bad for the ozone, too.

During this horrendous time of having almost no money allocated for anything, we at Cedars Estates and Pac Training Org (trained the EPF) were greeted at muster one day with someone in purchasing.

He told us we should not be stealing toilet paper from the bathrooms at AOLA and ASHO. He patiently explained to us the correct way to utilize toilet paper to maximize its benefits, that scrunching was wasteful, and demonstrated a folding technique whereby one could actually use just 2 or 3 sheets if it was folded properly.

All of this with a straight face. :roflmao:

But! There was toilet paper at ASHO and AOLA! We went for it.
.:happydance:

I was auditing ASHO's HGC then. I always had Kleenex in my auditing room, so I wasn't too inconvenienced by the lack of TP, but one day I asked Larry Norton, he was Capt. of ASHO, how he felt about the GO recruiting his Staff, and he almost broke into tears telling me how he was the CAPTAIN of ASHO and yet he had to put the toilet paper in the bathrooms.

chlng

michaelangelo
1st January 2010, 11:49 PM
Could beans and rice be responsible for the so called "global warming?. Think of all the farts going into the ozone layer.

Challenge
1st January 2010, 11:51 PM
Either in the 80's or early 90's, when I was public at AOLA, I knew that I had better check and see if there was TP before embarking on any mission that required same. I would sometimes have to go from floor to floor checking toilets before I could "take care of business".

Another time, I had a cold and dared to bring a roll of TP from one of the bathrooms into the MAA space so I could blow my nose and not interrupt my work every five minutes. What's his name Gary? went ballistic on me that I was attempting to degrade his space and would I bring a roll of TP into a fine restaurant :thumbsup:

EDIT: Gary Jacobs. That was my early encounter with him. We came to be pretty friendly. On the subject of OT and ethics, he once told me that there were OT child molester(s) in prison.

I think I know who the OT in jail for child molestation was. I know of some other Scn'ists who were guilty of the crime and who were not in jail.
BTW, Gary Jacob is the AOLA MAA who asked me to help him out by secretly 'dosing' an HGC PC with Thorazine. You can read all about it by Googling 'David Voorhies'. That was the incident that caused me to resign after 33 years in good standing.

chlng

Enthetan
2nd January 2010, 06:28 PM
I remember well the beans and rice days of the 70's at AOSH UK. Our cook was quite inventive. We had bean supreme, beans loaf, bean con carne (without the carne) and some days for a change, just plain old beans and rice.
If I remember correctly , at about that time LRH (or someone else) wrote "Ron's solution to inflation". It wasn't refering to the internal inflation from eating beans and rice. But the inflation going on at the time in the economy. The prices for Scio services rose each month which caused the G I to take off like a rocket. For a while we ate very well.

The monthly increase was like riding a tiger -- the hard part is how do you safely get off?

I was at Flag in the early 80's and I happened to have access to the eval. People were going heavily into debt to get their Bridge bought before the price went out of reach. If they stopped the increase, people would stop buying services and try to pay off debt, which would crash GI stats. If they continued the increase much longer, then the OT levels would be out of reach of more and more public, who would just say "screw it" in despair. I forget what the eval recommendation was, but they finally cut prices later.

thefiredragon
2nd January 2010, 09:58 PM
When I was a kid,my parents was always cooking my favorite food for me.
When I became Scientologist,I was living by myself and I got used to eat
once a day.
I was working with MEST in Russian org (downstairs, where RPFers were) and
was FSM at the same time.
One time one of Sea Org members gave me some bread from Sea Org's kitchen.(I asked her for it because I was broke and almost homeless)
And her senior got mad at her.
~~~~~
I'm not really picky eater. I think,I could survive on rice and beans for a long time.After I left sEA oRG in Florida, i lived in 4 homeless shelters and they
only was giving us breakfast and dinner (no lunch)
And Salvation Army shelter forces you to go in their Church if you stay there.That's not right.
Back to rice and beans...
I can eat anything (exept the red meat)
When Hurricane Charley hit my house,we did not have electricity for
3 weeks and stores would not take credit cards because they had no energy.
My kids and I was living on peanut butter and crackers and water for more than a week.
I did not care about that but my kids was happy when we finaly got power back.

Gottabrain
3rd January 2010, 06:49 AM
Hi Ching! :) Yes, it's a sad state of affairs when the Commanding Officer of one of the highest and most elite of all Scientology organisations is reduced to supplying toilet paper. That even makes the caste system of India look sensible in comparison.

Russian Girl, What a tough life you have had! Thank you for reminding me and everyone else that no matter how hard we may have thought we had it, someone else has always had it a lot worse. I remember when I was a child, my grandmother used to sew jewels into the hems of clothing to send to relatives in Russia and Poland to help them out and give them something to sell so they could have food on the table.

apple
21st March 2010, 06:03 PM
I was reading, EAT AWAY ILLNESS by Paulette Millis, a registered nutritional Consultant.



She writes: "Natures Medicine: The combination of the beans and the rice make a high quality balance of amino acids (protein), therefore allowing for the elimination of animal products in the meal. The whole beans and rice are nutrient dense, and wonderful for those with diabetes or high cholesterol."But really.... to eat them without anything else every day. I dont think it is enough. Maybe this is the silver lining of the Sea Org meal, it reduces the risk of diabetes and high cholesterol.

Also one earlier post here about not eating for days. That is tough if your stressed in the Sea Org. Ive fasted for 7 days at a time, stress free, with no other activities going on. Feeling weak, clean and spiritual at the end of the fast.

apple
21st March 2010, 06:05 PM
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Smilla
21st March 2010, 09:53 PM
How did they cook it? Was it just boiled up, or was there some kind of recipe?

apple
22nd March 2010, 04:47 AM
How did they cook it? Was it just boiled up, or was there some kind of recipe?

Looking through the book she writes about basic bean cooking. So I guess that is it basic bean cooking. Yes there are bean and other recipes here also.

"Pick out any discoloured beans and discard. Wash well. Cover (to at least an inch above) with water and soak overnight. Drain and cover with fresh water or vegetable stock and sprinkle Indo Seasoning over beans. (Indo is a natural meat tenderizer and it helps to break down the starch and remove gas.) A piece of Kombu (sea vegetable) also works well. Simmer until tender, usually one and one-half hours to two hours. Test beans for doneness, like you do for pasta, by biting into one. Drain the beans and save the liquid for gravies and soups....

...Drain, and place on cookie sheets and freeze. Bag in seperate zip lock bags when frozen and Voila! You have high quality beans ready for use in casseroles, salads, soups, stir fries, burritos or to be mashed for dips."

cantsay
2nd April 2010, 07:51 AM
When I was training at the AOSH ANZO we had pretty crap food, I dont remember rice and beans, but the breakfast was toast and fried eggs (2 max), everyday, and we had to cook it along with everyone elses eggs in the AO if the cook was in a foul temper. For 6 months. I didnt eat fried eggs for years afterwards!!

Lunch was small, dinner was bland - 1 piece of fish, or one sausage, or whatever was going - you werent allowed to have more than one of anything. We used to form a queue outside of ethics when none of us would metab, all saying the same thing "IM HUNGRY". The solution - "tell your org to make more money so they can send you money to buy your own food".
Us girls got quite good at stealing an avocado (we werent allowed to eat the flash veges) and a lemon whenever we could (up the sleeve of your jumper usually), to make basic guacamole after post. Funny how we never saw that as an overt at the time - too hungry to care I think. I used to gobble that down like it was the best thing in the universe!! Can you imagine, 7 girls, all sharing 3 avocados like it was the nectar of the gods? Seems hilarious now.

Thursday_At_2
6th May 2010, 08:04 PM
I actually LIKE oatmeal, and prefer it over cornflakes, but imagine I'd get tired of it pretty quick after eating it 4-5 days in a row! :omg:


There was usually only honey, butter, or nutrasweet to go on the oatmeal. Not often milk where I was in the SO.

xseaorguk
6th May 2010, 11:09 PM
when I was in the SO at Saint Hill, we often had beans + rice.
The little money we did get (I think 5 pounds per week sometimes), I used to buy a treat in the cafe on the premises.
This was run by Guardian Office family members, some teenagers usually jobbing there, I think they belonged to the Gayman family.
They charged an arm and a leg for a polystyrene small cup of coffee or tea, and you could buy a nice 'health bar' covered with sesame seeds and honey.
That was always a real treat for me.
Thank god my parents lived in London and they often gave me some pocket money or brought some fruit and other stuff like shampoo and soap.
I dont remember going hungry, but at 19 food was not that imortant to me.

Oh yes and at breakfast you had to get in quick, as all the incredibly 'considerate' SO members wold woof down as much as they could, leave a mess and not give a damn about who came after them, and if they got anything at all.
Such a wonderful training in thoughtfulness, taking others into consideration and generally "f..ck you" attitude.
There was always a fight to get into one of the early Mini busses and get away from the ORG in case anybody suggested staying behind to stuff letters.
It seemed to me the more gullible, friendly and compassionate about others you were, the more you were abused for your good will.
The more harsh and horrible you were to others, the more you were left alone.
So an atmosphere of bullying was in the air, and us youngsters felt it most.
I'm glad my young mind was still reasonably healthy and I recognized that the abuse had gone too far.
I left after 1 year on the grounds that I didnt feel committed enough.
I was undergoing endless sec checks, when I decided to leave one day.
I realized it was time to say goodbye, took my bag and walked out, must admit I didn't announce it.
It was such a relief when I left, and hitchhiked home to London without a penny in my pocket, but with a loving family to welcome me.

Mick Wenlock
7th May 2010, 02:40 PM
Not sure when you were there - sounds like we were there at roughly the same time.

Man in 1977 as AOSH UK's GI would tank for the first three weeks of the month we would get the worsts food. Mick Parkee was the cook and the poor bastard would have been better cooking up lawn grass and beetles.

Then after two months of total rubbish AOSH finally made some decent GI and the next week FOLO income was, of course, good. So we were finally looking forward to some good, solid food.

Mick's first gourmet meal? Ham and prunes.

he was almost lynched.



when I was in the SO at Saint Hill, we often had beans + rice.
The little money we did get (I think 5 pounds per week sometimes), I used to buy a treat in the cafe on the premises.
This was run by Guardian Office family members, some teenagers usually jobbing there, I think they belonged to the Gayman family.
They charged an arm and a leg for a polystyrene small cup of coffee or tea, and you could buy a nice 'health bar' covered with sesame seeds and honey.
That was always a real treat for me.
Thank god my parents lived in London and they often gave me some pocket money or brought some fruit and other stuff like shampoo and soap.
I dont remember going hungry, but at 19 food was not that imortant to me.

Oh yes and at breakfast you had to get in quick, as all the incredibly 'considerate' SO members wold woof down as much as they could, leave a mess and not give a damn about who came after them, and if they got anything at all.
Such a wonderful training in thoughtfulness, taking others into consideration and generally "f..ck you" attitude.
There was always a fight to get into one of the early Mini busses and get away from the ORG in case anybody suggested staying behind to stuff letters.
It seemed to me the more gullible, friendly and compassionate about others you were, the more you were abused for your good will.
The more harsh and horrible you were to others, the more you were left alone.
So an atmosphere of bullying was in the air, and us youngsters felt it most.
I'm glad my young mind was still reasonably healthy and I recognized that the abuse had gone too far.
I left after 1 year on the grounds that I didnt feel committed enough.
I was undergoing endless sec checks, when I decided to leave one day.
I realized it was time to say goodbye, took my bag and walked out, must admit I didn't announce it.
It was such a relief when I left, and hitchhiked home to London without a penny in my pocket, but with a loving family to welcome me.

The Great Zorg
7th May 2010, 03:25 PM
What I found out was that they were no longer feeding them rice and beans...but instead...they were not feeding them anything at all...and that the staff had to buy their own food from their meager stipend...(I cannot call it salary)
And Chari had run out of money and now she was going to go with out food until payday...I was irate to say the least!

I remember in the 70's as an org staffer seeing a fellow staffer faint because all he could afford on the $cientology slave labour wages was Puffed Wheat cereal: breakfast, lunch and supper. I hear that ill rong himself ate very well, as did his minions and family as so do, no doubt, todays upper echelon and minion entourage. :angry:

WHY any government on this planet has NOT shut down this greedy, criminal cult is beyond me at this point: maybe I just can't see past the anger of all the pain and suffering hubbard et al has caused. :angry:

Kutta
8th May 2010, 01:04 AM
At Saint Hill around the same time as xseaorguk, late 70s to 81 in my case, one thing that stuck in my craw was that the GO staff who berthed with us at Stonelands were served up decent meat and 3 veg meals while us SO crew often ate beans and rice. Sitting there in the same dining room as us, it created a resentment towards them. We felt like we were the slaves, working our butts off so they could eat well while we got the slops. The injustice of this was underlined when we found out that the GO at that time had put scientology into disrepute by acting criminally, the govt. raids that were responsible for Mary Sue and others being imprisoned.