Auditing CoS as a 3D Preclear - A Staged Anon Skit

[yon8008]

This thread is inspired by 3 concepts that all came together for me in the past few hours. Here goes:

1) There is one Issue that really stood out for me when I first read it: DAB Vol 1 No. 7 of Jan 1951 "Group Dianetics".

This issue explains how a group is created by agreements, and how the introduction of a "non-agreed-upon arbitrary" acts as a 3rd Dynamic Engram, that will hang the group up until it is audited out - and gives the procedure for doing so. Interesting stuff for sure.

2) Yesterday, I was on this thread: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=16555 and spotted something: Many of the upsets people had and still have with CoS are these non-agreed-upon arbitraries - and specifically words/phrases/mannerisms of how they were interacted with by their higher-ups.

3) Reading that thread, it sure sounded like the higher-ups were using these arbitaries in a make-wrong/domination sort of fashion - which resembles "A SERVICE FACSIMILE".

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When these three concepts came together, I suddenly saw this vision of auditing the CoS on R3SC - find it's service facs and run them out!

This thought process expanded in my mind, and I saw auditing CoS on the whole grade chart. I'm envisioning a Anon Picket where a there is a staged auditing session: a V-Masked Anon is auditing a Sea Org Dressed Anon, and maybe a narrator that explains some background and theory.

Lets see what would happen:

(I'm also imagining the following could be run in reverse as a kind of count-down, with the purification rundown ending in DM's SP Declare.)

You're ideas/contributions welcome
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(sample commands) & sample Answers "FROM CoS"

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Pre-Sessioning:

"Look at Me Who Am I?" = "Dude! You're Anon, what kind of question is that!?!"

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Purification RD

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Happiness RD

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ARC Straightwire/ Recall Processes

Recall something you wouldn't mind forgetting yourself. = "Oh, GOD! I wouldn't mind forgetting about the first time we were confronted by Anonymous..."

Recall something you wouldn't mind another person forgetting. = "Oh, well, yes, those... we wouldn't mind Anonymous forgetting ... well... they could forget just about anything, and that would be fine with us."

....

(List 1)
Recall a Time...
1. You were happy. = "well 9 May 1950 was certainly a Milestone..."
15. You received money. = "well, yes, indeed, many times, sometimes I even earned it."
18. You played a game. = "Yes, we're still playing the one about the psyches... haha."
22. You enjoyed a good loaf. = "oh, there haven't been many, but ..."

....

Look around here and find something that is really real to you. = "Well, that Anon Picket, is suddenly very real to me."


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Grade 0 Communication:

What are you willing for me to talk to you about? = (with steering from the auditor: "that" "that" "what is that" - Scientology laughing...) "I guess you could talk to me about what you like about me."

... (What do you think would be fun/funny to see here? - I sometimes think that Scientology cuts communication lines - so the goal is to demonstrated to onlookers that CoS is not up to a Grade 0 release - and also to show how it would be if CoS was a Grade 0 release: wide open communication lines, fast communication with everyone, total transparency, a real nice thing to behold.)

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Grade 1 Objectives/CCH/Control, Help, Problems:

... (What do you think would be fun/funny to see here? - I sometimes think that Scientology uses punishment/duress as control - and something in here would show that real control is achieved through high toned communications and voluntary compliance based on understanding. But how this could be demonstrated so that the onlookers can see that CoS is not up to a Grade 1 release is the key - and also to show how it would be if CoS was a Grade 1 release.)

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Grade 2 Relief/O/W/Sec Checking:

... (now there is enough materials here to fill hours... "what have you done"... on a meter, and a full confession... if done properly this could be hugely cathartic... Let me know what you think)

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Grade 3 Change/ARCx:

... (certainly hit on LRH going off lines, LRH's death, potentially many others, discover what CoS is upset about - less cathartic & less interesting for Anons, so probably keep it short).

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Grade 4 Service Fac/Fixated Purpose:

... (here is what inspired it all - here is the real catharsis - the admitting of what has been done to control/dominate/make-self-right/make-others-wrong/escape domination/aid self survival/inhibit survival of others... I can just hear the Anon's screaming and hollering their cheers of approval upon these admissions).

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Which brings us up to NED - the point where the Group Dianetics DAB (presented at the very top) could now be accomplished.

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I would love for this thread to be a scripting tool for fleshing out the concept above into a series of 'auditing sessions'. Any contributors welcome. But I'd love assistance from a C/S.

If you'd like to contribute to this project:
Please consider posting
A) auditing questions that you'd like CoS to answer in session on a meter.
B) responses to the questions posed by others as if you were the CoS.

Ex-Scns-> this thread is for you, spot what went wrong, and what should have been done better/differently
Anons -> throw in the lulz, we'll have a good time.
FZers -> balance it out with correct application and realistic results
Haters -> go ahead a barf on this thread, but don't expect responses or acknowledgments.

Catch the vision, we'll write a script, stage a show, make a movie, shake up those who can't see the obvious low case level of the CoS, and the suppression will crumble.

[EP - Ethics Particle]

I see this as having great promise! :yes::thumbsup::clap:

EP

[Veda]

This general idea has been covered elsewhere on ESMB, and by persons with no ulterior motive. Perhaps someone else can locate the thread.

In the mean time, any luck in bagging any disciples?

[yon8008]

This general idea has been covered elsewhere on ESMB, and by persons with no ulterior motive. Perhaps someone else can locate the thread.

In the mean time, any luck in bagging any disciples?

Thanks Veda, I'd like to see it. What's really interesting to me is that I don't feel like I have ulterior motives - I thought it was pretty straight forward - demonstrate to Scilons what 1st Dynamic Tech applied to a 3rd Dynamic would look like - and lots of lulz for the anons - and possibly wake up some Scilons up to demanding change.

I've actually had a number of PMs that have been very encouraging - not disciples, just friends that have more agreement with what I'm presenting.

Is your mention of another thread a hint you in some way do not like the idea?

[yon8008]

I just had another vision...

Whenver anyone comes out of an org
one V-Masked Anon with a bull horn yells, "ANONYMOUS BRING ORDER"

I think it would terrify them.

[Ulf K. Maier]

I just had another vision...

Whenver anyone comes out of an org
one V-Masked Anon with a bull horn yells,

"ANONYMOUS BRING ORDER"

I think it would terrify them.

That's the process that would be most successful on said PC.

First Ethics goes in, then Tech.

And the video goes VIRAL.

:yes:

[Smilla]

Another one of those rubbish threads.

http://www.taylordavidson.com/writing/wp-content/uploads/diversion_high_contrast_600.jpg

Please don't reply to them.

[yon8008]

Another one of those rubbish threads.

[Diversion ->]

Please don't reply to them.

Smilla, thanks for your contribution.

I'm not quite duplicating what it is about this thread that warranted a request that others not reply to it.

If you feel so strongly about this, I would appreciate more information so that I might elevate the value of my future contributions here.

Sincerely,
Yon

[AnonKat]

This thread is inspired by 3 concepts that all came together for me in the past few hours. Here goes:

1) There is one Issue that really stood out for me when I first read it: DAB Vol 1 No. 7 of Jan 1951 "Group Dianetics".

This issue explains how a group is created by agreements, and how the introduction of a "non-agreed-upon arbitrary" acts as a 3rd Dynamic Engram, that will hang the group up until it is audited out - and gives the procedure for doing so. Interesting stuff for sure.

2) Yesterday, I was on this thread: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=16555 and spotted something: Many of the upsets people had and still have with CoS are these non-agreed-upon arbitraries - and specifically words/phrases/mannerisms of how they were interacted with by their higher-ups.

3) Reading that thread, it sure sounded like the higher-ups were using these arbitaries in a make-wrong/domination sort of fashion - which resembles "A SERVICE FACSIMILE".

--------------
When these three concepts came together, I suddenly saw this vision of auditing the CoS on R3SC - find it's service facs and run them out!

This thought process expanded in my mind, and I saw auditing CoS on the whole grade chart. I'm envisioning a Anon Picket where a there is a staged auditing session: a V-Masked Anon is auditing a Sea Org Dressed Anon, and maybe a narrator that explains some background and theory.

Lets see what would happen:

(I'm also imagining the following could be run in reverse as a kind of count-down, with the purification rundown ending in DM's SP Declare.)

You're ideas/contributions welcome
=====================
(sample commands) & sample Answers "FROM CoS"

--------------------------------------------------
Pre-Sessioning:

"Look at Me Who Am I?" = "Dude! You're Anon, what kind of question is that!?!"

---------------------------
Purification RD

---------------------------
Happiness RD

----------------------------
ARC Straightwire/ Recall Processes

Recall something you wouldn't mind forgetting yourself. = "Oh, GOD! I wouldn't mind forgetting about the first time we were confronted by Anonymous..."

Recall something you wouldn't mind another person forgetting. = "Oh, well, yes, those... we wouldn't mind Anonymous forgetting ... well... they could forget just about anything, and that would be fine with us."

....

(List 1)
Recall a Time...
1. You were happy. = "well 9 May 1950 was certainly a Milestone..."
15. You received money. = "well, yes, indeed, many times, sometimes I even earned it."
18. You played a game. = "Yes, we're still playing the one about the psyches... haha."
22. You enjoyed a good loaf. = "oh, there haven't been many, but ..."

....

Look around here and find something that is really real to you. = "Well, that Anon Picket, is suddenly very real to me."


--------------------------------------------------
Grade 0 Communication:

What are you willing for me to talk to you about? = (with steering from the auditor: "that" "that" "what is that" - Scientology laughing...) "I guess you could talk to me about what you like about me."

... (What do you think would be fun/funny to see here? - I sometimes think that Scientology cuts communication lines - so the goal is to demonstrated to onlookers that CoS is not up to a Grade 0 release - and also to show how it would be if CoS was a Grade 0 release: wide open communication lines, fast communication with everyone, total transparency, a real nice thing to behold.)

------------------------------------------------
Grade 1 Objectives/CCH/Control, Help, Problems:

... (What do you think would be fun/funny to see here? - I sometimes think that Scientology uses punishment/duress as control - and something in here would show that real control is achieved through high toned communications and voluntary compliance based on understanding. But how this could be demonstrated so that the onlookers can see that CoS is not up to a Grade 1 release is the key - and also to show how it would be if CoS was a Grade 1 release.)

-------------------------------------------------
Grade 2 Relief/O/W/Sec Checking:

... (now there is enough materials here to fill hours... "what have you done"... on a meter, and a full confession... if done properly this could be hugely cathartic... Let me know what you think)

------------------------------------------------
Grade 3 Change/ARCx:

... (certainly hit on LRH going off lines, LRH's death, potentially many others, discover what CoS is upset about - less cathartic & less interesting for Anons, so probably keep it short).

------------------------------------------------
Grade 4 Service Fac/Fixated Purpose:

... (here is what inspired it all - here is the real catharsis - the admitting of what has been done to control/dominate/make-self-right/make-others-wrong/escape domination/aid self survival/inhibit survival of others... I can just hear the Anon's screaming and hollering their cheers of approval upon these admissions).

------------------------------------------
Which brings us up to NED - the point where the Group Dianetics DAB (presented at the very top) could now be accomplished.

============================

I would love for this thread to be a scripting tool for fleshing out the concept above into a series of 'auditing sessions'. Any contributors welcome. But I'd love assistance from a C/S.

If you'd like to contribute to this project:
Please consider posting
A) auditing questions that you'd like CoS to answer in session on a meter.
B) responses to the questions posed by others as if you were the CoS.

Ex-Scns-> this thread is for you, spot what went wrong, and what should have been done better/differently
Anons -> throw in the lulz, we'll have a good time.
FZers -> balance it out with correct application and realistic results
Haters -> go ahead a barf on this thread, but don't expect responses or acknowledgments.

Catch the vision, we'll write a script, stage a show, make a movie, shake up those who can't see the obvious low case level of the CoS, and the suppression will crumble.

Enormous effort is Enormous don't forget living your life in the mean time

[yon8008]

Enormous effort is Enormous don't forget living your life in the mean time

The long posts like this that I write, flow effortlessly. It's a joy for me to release them.

The audience is quite diverse. It's stimulating to try to write valuable content for so many divergent viewpoints.

[degraded being]

Wanna dress up as a BT? Then at the raid, run out the "thetan" (scientologist).

[Dulloldfart]

I'm not going to do it, but if I wanted to come up with such a "session" I would script it out, then shoot it like this:

1. Using my webcam, shoot the "auditor" side-on, on the left side of the frame, asking the list of questions, with appropriate acks and short pauses between the questions. Each line (question) would start with an ack to the previous answer.

2. Shoot the "pc" side-on, on the right of the frame, answering the questions, with appropriate short pauses between them.

3. Stick the one long recording into a simple editing program like Windows Movie Maker, and edit the questions and answers together.

4. Upload to YouTube.

Now, that's nowhere near a fully-fledged production with bells and whistles, but it gets something online and it's something you, Yon, could do with existing resources.

Paul

[ULRC/S]

Yon,
I believe you have something in auditing the CoS as a 3D group.

Iran a lot of public using multiple viewpoint dianetics, and sometimes found the session wouldn't ep if there was a group mind involved. So I started running these group minds and that normally blew huge amounts of charge and ep'd the session.

One such group was the army, another was a catholic boarding scholl that had a totally vicious headmaster who would beat boys horribly for even minor infractions. I had one of his students, now adult, in session and after running in incident for him, ran it from the headmaster's viewpoint. This helped but pointed towards a senoir energy that had been controlling him - the group mind of the school.

WE found and ran that, and all the charge blew.

The group mind seems to be formed by the physic energy of the many victums gathering together, perpetuating the terror and attrocities, and taking control of anyone entering such a system.

The CoS, and more particularly the SO would seem like a good target for this technology. Ever seem a someone you know well join them and totally change in a matter of weeks or months?

Regards, Allen

[yon8008]

I'm not going to do it, but if I wanted to come up with such a "session" I would script it out, then shoot it like this:

1. Using my webcam, shoot the "auditor" side-on, on the left side of the frame, asking the list of questions, with appropriate acks and short pauses between the questions. Each line (question) would start with an ack to the previous answer.

2. Shoot the "pc" side-on, on the right of the frame, answering the questions, with appropriate short pauses between them.

3. Stick the one long recording into a simple editing program like Windows Movie Maker, and edit the questions and answers together.

4. Upload to YouTube.

Now, that's nowhere near a fully-fledged production with bells and whistles, but it gets something online and it's something you, Yon, could do with existing resources.

Paul





Yon,
I believe you have something in auditing the CoS as a 3D group.

Iran a lot of public using multiple viewpoint dianetics, and sometimes found the session wouldn't ep if there was a group mind involved. So I started running these group minds and that normally blew huge amounts of charge and ep'd the session.

One such group was the army, another was a catholic boarding scholl that had a totally vicious headmaster who would beat boys horribly for even minor infractions. I had one of his students, now adult, in session and after running in incident for him, ran it from the headmaster's viewpoint. This helped but pointed towards a senoir energy that had been controlling him - the group mind of the school.

WE found and ran that, and all the charge blew.

The group mind seems to be formed by the physic energy of the many victums gathering together, perpetuating the terror and attrocities, and taking control of anyone entering such a system.

The CoS, and more particularly the SO would seem like a good target for this technology. Ever seem a someone you know well join them and totally change in a matter of weeks or months?

Regards, Allen

Thank you BOTH!

Paul, I can see the vision, as you presented it is much more doable as you described...

Allen, you're hitting on the next level of what I'm going for - so few here are able to duplicate that viewpoint. For this discussion board I was simply hoping to show people familiar with the tech how obviously aberrated the CoS is - based on the CoS's own idea of what aberration looks and how it is handled. Mostly in a humorous and entertaining construct.

[Dulloldfart]

Yon,
I believe you have something in auditing the CoS as a 3D group.

Iran a lot of public using multiple viewpoint dianetics, and sometimes found the session wouldn't ep if there was a group mind involved. So I started running these group minds and that normally blew huge amounts of charge and ep'd the session.

One such group was the army, another was a catholic boarding scholl that had a totally vicious headmaster who would beat boys horribly for even minor infractions. I had one of his students, now adult, in session and after running in incident for him, ran it from the headmaster's viewpoint. This helped but pointed towards a senoir energy that had been controlling him - the group mind of the school.

WE found and ran that, and all the charge blew.

The group mind seems to be formed by the physic energy of the many victums gathering together, perpetuating the terror and attrocities, and taking control of anyone entering such a system.

The CoS, and more particularly the SO would seem like a good target for this technology. Ever seem a someone you know well join them and totally change in a matter of weeks or months?

Regards, Allen

I agree with the value of auditing multiple viewpoints. One of the 15 variations in my PaulsRobot HeavyDuty module is the Multiple Viewpoints one, using commands like "OK. Assume another viewpoint in your topic, either an individual's or a group's, and from that viewpoint put your topic, including thoughts and feelings and efforts, above you." This is done using whatever viewpoints seem appropriate to the pc, flattening each one before going on to the next. If the pc wants to run the incident from the viewpoint of the other person, or even the chair or the dog or God, no problemo (providing it soon shows as charged).

I find it interesting to take incidents supposedly "flat" using regular Dianetics and then bleed off a whole bunch of charge that the limited procedure never addresses.

</plug>

Paul

[ULRC/S]

Paul,
Yes, multiple viewpoints can remove a huge amount of charge - and mostly unexpected charge.

Was running ourt a parachuting accident on a client, and it wasn't clearing up too well, until we got the viewpoint of 1/ the pilot of the plane he jumped from, and 2/ the plane itself.

Then the story became complete and it cleared perfectly. The pilot was just blame, blame, blame on the airshow promoter demanding so many flights all day without a break, but the plane was hugely upset that it had been a contributor to a human's near death accident. Very very upset.

Regards, Allen

[AnonyMary]

Don't let others discourage you. Scientology uses the tech all the time to try and destroy it's enemies and critical thoughts of members. I think it's good to use scientology to breakdown scientology and if it helps those indoctrinated members look and think, it's ok by me.

As I have always said, the way to win is to know your enemy.

[Blue Spirit]

I ran a "group engram" in effect around the time that Bill Franks was axed by DM. It did have a good effect. A large number of people were involved.

I like your concept in theory, but don't see the practicality of auditing the CO$ as their rudiments are so out.

It might be more effective to use mimicry to undercut their case, and do it by
imitating their common low tones. Anger seems to be one. Just observe the
tones of the local staff and act accordingly.

I suspect that would be the most effective way.

A friend who probably put more effort in trying to get the Tech corrected with
long reports than anyone, finally concluded that the staff were too downtone
to reach. That is a correct conclusion, and reinforces my idea above.

[yon8008]

I ran a "group engram" in effect around the time that Bill Franks was axed by DM. It did have a good effect. A large number of people were involved.

I like your concept in theory, but don't see the practicality of auditing the CO$ as their rudiments are so out.

It might be more effective to use mimicry to undercut their case, and do it by
imitating their common low tones. Anger seems to be one. Just observe the
tones of the local staff and act accordingly.

I suspect that would be the most effective way.

A friend who probably put more effort in trying to get the Tech corrected with
long reports than anyone, finally concluded that the staff were too downtone
to reach. That is a correct conclusion, and reinforces my idea above.

Interesting Blue Spirit! (Thanks also to other contributors!)


I think you're on track. Here is Step VII of SOP 8 from early 1953:


STEP VII—PSYCHOTIC CASES. (Whether in or out of body.) The psychotic appears to be in such desperate straits that the auditor often errs in thinking desperate measures are necessary. Use the lightest possible methods. Give case space and freedom where possible. Have psychotic imitate (not mock up) various things. Have him do PRESENT TIME DIFFERENTIATION. Get him to tell the difference between things by actual touch. Have him locate, differentiate and touch things that are really real to him (real objects or items). If inaccessible, mimic him with own body, whatever he does, until he comes into communication. Have him locate comers of the room and hold them without thinking. As soon as his communication is up go to STEP VI, but be very sure he changes any mock-up around until he knows it is a mock-up, that it exists, and that he himself made it. Do not run engrams. He is psychotic because viewpoints in present time are so scarce that he has gone into the past for viewpoints which at least he knew existed. By PRESENT TIME DIFFERENTIATION, by tactile on objects, restore his idea of an abundance of viewpoint in present time. If he has been given electric shock, do not process it or any other brutality. Work him for very brief periods, for his attention span is short. Always work psychotics with another auditor or a companion present.

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From this, here are some applications toward CoS:

Present Time Differentiation: Create a mock up of "a real SP" and what that looks like. Side by side, create a mock up of "what CoS declares to be SP, but isn't really". Use Policy (anti-social personality/social personality) to show the difference.

Present Time Differentiation: A happy wog curious about Scientology contrasted with a disaffected wog Anon (movie showing how the first becomes the later).


Mimicry: creating a Mock Up (or a reality) of what "Scientology Should Be" (mimicry without validating any of the irrationality). [attempted by FZ, met with hostility]

Hold the Back Corners of the room without thinking: (... more generalized, is am imagining V-Masked anons giving good group processing sessions to the other anons and the CoS during demonstrations... maybe some 'keep it from going away' - [just because wouldn't it be hysterical for Scientologists to watch Anons trying to 'keep CoS from going away'...])

Remedy of Scarcity of Viewpoint by physical contact differentiation... (I'm seeing a panel of 4 people, and a V-Masked anon with a loud speaker introducing them: "This is a happy and satisfied Independent Freezone Scientologist", "This is a disaffected V-Masked Anon", "This is a scared and confused Scientology Public", and "This is a bitter, underpaid, Scientology staff member who doesn't believe that enforced disconnection is a good policy." - We are now going to show you the differences between these people. First let us compare ..<select a pair from the panel and have them step forward>.. "Using obnosis, What do you see?".... accept anything shouted out by the crowd - maybe have a line where people in the crowd may speak into a microphone. Give good acknowledgments. Repeat until flat & return to this exercise later with a different pair.)

[ULRC/S]

That's OK but hugely complex. All I ever did to handle a group mind was to run it's incident narrative, per the book. Keeping on going earlier beginning until it broke up into it's component parts.

Then I used Bill Robertsons MOCO handling steps (a MOCO is a created being or entity) of: 1/ "return to your moment of creation" or 2/ "Go free". Repetive 1, 2, 1, 2 etc untill all the parts of the group mind have gone back to their creators, or gone free.

Never took more than about 1/2 an hour to resolve even horrific group minds.

Regards, Allen

[Royal Prince Xenu]

Have you had many husbands?
Yes, lots. But none of them were mine.

[Blue Spirit]

I appreciate your creativity in this area.

There is a "fly-in-the-ointment" as I observe things.

The spirit of the Anons is commendable, however in looking at many of these
demonstrations I'm always frustrated for their work, as it seems to fall on the deaf ears of those unwilling to LOOK, so there is no one "In Session" to be able to be the effect of Anons.

LOOK is above Emotion on the "Know To Mystery" scale.
Without a willingness to LOOK there is a Fixed Idea going on which precludes
reaching those still in. I know, as I was there for much too long. :grouch::omg::angry:

I don't think there is any physical or mechanical strategy of much use with those still in.
Probably pervading their areas with Positive Postulates would work best.

With an Internet brimming full with more than anyone would ever need to leave, it would seem that until one decided to LOOK there he won't be leaving.

The only thing that might be effective is if a list of the key Opinion Leaders and Ex-Management names that have left were gotten before the one's inside.
Even that requires an ability to LOOK, though.

Quite a conundrum it would appear.

[yon8008]

Right On!

So maybe instead of looking 'Anon' -> you/I/we could use materials that LOOK LIKE SCN MATERIALS - similar aesthetics to what Flag puts out. These are OK TO LOOK AT!

The CoS group mind is revolting at the thought of having their 'semi-branded aesthetic' hijacked, can you feel it?

[Blue Spirit]

Getting down to basics, it occurs to me anyone who is left in the CO$ wants at some level of agreement to be there.
Therefore Anons trying to "rescue" them from themselves is a rather superfluous activity, and largely wasted.

If there is any value in Scientology (I think there is) then the main activity
should be re-establishing groups and single practitioners and each calling their activities something besides "Scientology".
The CO$ is obviously dying, so something has to created to replace the vacuum.
This activity is of very low magnitude, it seems to me.

Doing this in quantity would make enough create (you get what you put your attention on) to help unmock the CO$ faster.
Anyone with one eye open would soon become aware that there were better places to go for any service they are interested in.
The word would spread by the grapevine that better products are occurring elsewhere.

The main reason people won't LOOK is that they buy into the hypnotic suggestion that the CO$ has the only "Road To Total Freedom".
Whether this was true one time potentially, it certainly has been sabotaged into untruth for some time.
If the individual cannot see for themselves that there is no "Bridge" or Road any longer,
then they don't have what it takes to go free anyway, so it becomes a moot point.

If a person cannot bring themselves to bring up "Google" on their screen and
type in a word or two or three, then trying to "save" them from demonstrations outside their buildings seems amazingly impotent to me.
Time would better be spent processing or training someone.

If you don't "believe" in the Tech (since when did Scientology have to do with "belief" ?) then I'd point out that the real stuff was never had by you.

Alternately discover Knowledgism or some other effective tech.

The demonstrations may be Fun and satisfying to get back at the CO$, but what is it really doing ? :hide:

None of the above precludes my desire to somehow have the abuses brought to light and terminated, along with DM and every last member of INT Management.

[yon8008]

Thanks Blue Spirit.

I agree with what you said. My position has been that the end of CoS will come only when there is something better to replace it.

The idea of 'auditing CoS' was just kind of a curiosa - When I started spotting the group outnesses like cut comm lines (Grade 0) - and you instantly see processes that would bring the charge up for inspection ("from where could you communicate to an SP") ... it's just kind of fun to write them down.

The other half of the idea would be to show ANONs aspects of the tech, and how they could be applied. The ideas in this thread were equally for educating anons, as well as restimulating Scientologists with "look, you have this tech, lets get it used". I still think that ANONs making better use of the tech right in front of Scientology Public would be such a reality shock that it make wake people up. "Look, I am TRYING to pay for this service, I WANT this service, but I'm not able to get it, and yet there it is, right out in the street in front of the org, being given away for FREE in better quality by people who hate the CoS and who weren't even trained in the CoS."

V-Masked Freezoners & Anons delivering/supervising FREE freezone group auditing or co-audit courses, right there for the world to see.

[Veda]

Variations of this idea were tried before, years ago. Go down to the Los Angeles 'Complex', or to the LA 'Celebrity Center', or some other Org, and run a simple process on someone coming out or going into the building. I've done it, so can you.

(The chapter, 'Clay in the Master's Hands' in 'Messiah or Madman?' touches on the fringes of this, and might be helpful to someone [apologies in advance for use of simplistic language] attempting to use of "White Scientology" processes to address "Black Scientology." Of course, Scientology, including the beloved "Tech," per its founder's design, is an interweave of "White" and "Black," but...)

Anyway...

In the mean time, since you seem to be aiming for a kinder and gentler version of the Hubbard cult, and if you want anon to participate, a "street theater" type activity that might be attempted - but would require some group disciple: no booing or snickering - would be to unfold a banner depicting this ("nice looking, friendly") photo of Hubbard http://scientologistsfreezone.com or, in some manner, project this or similar image on a screen or wall, followed by anon loudly, "respectfully," and enthusiastically, applauding, with 'hip hip hooray' interspersed with the applause.

(This is similar to the idea of mimicking - in a fashion that doesn't ridicule - a psychotic or catatonic person.)

On the other hand, if you're trying to promote the Freezone to anon, you're going to be disappointed. The Freezone is, essentially, Hubbard-cult-lite, and anon doesn't want the Commodore no matter how broadly he smiles.

[yon8008]

Thanks Veda! That's really good! Also, I'll check out the references.

I'm trying to figure out and clarify for myself what it is that I do actually want. I've found this board, and the personalities here, to be wonderfully insightful. I'm growing and changing daily, thanks to posters like yourself who have helped me see things from new perspectives.