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Kha Khan
14th May 2010, 08:39 PM
Again from Marty (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/) (see my motto below). This time about a Knowledge Report on a dying Sea Org Auditor suffering from cancer (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/). Marty explains:
While in the RPF Claire was diagnosed with breast cancer. She battled this for 2 years. Many people beat this disease but it helps to have a great support system. What kind of support did Claire get? You decide for yourself when you read the KR written on her by the woman in charge of the “care” of elderly FSO staff (click link at end of post to read).
The Knowledge Report:
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In addition to the Church of Scientology's treatment of an elderly cancer patient, this Knowledge Report is relevant for several reasons. For example:
First, it demonstrates the Church of Scientology policy of getting their "elderly onto Medicare," which saves the Church of Scientology "100's of thousands of dollars."
Secondly, it also shows that it "is a bizarre viewpoint for a Scientologist" to think that "reading the newspaper" is "not entheta and is informative."
Third, hugging an 86 year-old man is "inappropriate 2D stuff."
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ADDED:
Fourth, from the Knowledge Report:
A main complaint she has is that she has is that she needs to use the bathroom often. When I took her to Tampa to get a green card (to get her on medicaire) I was with her the whole day and she used the bathroom 1-2 times.This is of interest.
What was her status before she got a green card? How long was she in that status? How did she get the green card?
And isn't it nice that, instead of paying for her medical care, the Church of Scientology instead made sure she (finally) got a green card and then put her on Medicare. After all, it is only right that the taxpayers of the United States, and not the Church of Scientology, pay for the medical care of Sea Org members.
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There are other interesting points in the KR.
The PDFs of the Church of Scientology Knowledge Report on Claire Reppen follow:
Claire1.pdf (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=89VOFXC0)
Claire2.pdf (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9KOHS3N9)
Claire3.pdf (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5HJUHI77)
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WWP Thread: Knowledge Report on a dying Sea Org Auditor suffering from cancer (http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/knowledge-report-dying-sea-org-auditor-suffering-cancer-66602/)
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ADDED:
Need info, only in part to satisfy Scatman on WWP:
Kha, I note that Marty omitted the most important piece of information on that report which is the writer of it.
Why?I have no idea. Why don't you ask him?
Is it possible that the KR is a fabrication? Of course it is. One of the reasons I posted this both here and on ESMB is to get more information. Perhaps somebody on ESMB (less likely here, but possible) knows the identify of the woman who was in charge of the “care” of elderly FSO staff during the relevant period of time, and/or the identity of the person who wrote the KR.
Or perhaps one of the recipients of the KR can authenticate it if that person has blown.
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ADDED:
From WWP with thanks (http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/knowledge-report-dying-sea-org-auditor-suffering-cancer-66602/#post1245113):
Hopefully transcribed correctly:
Chief Staff MAA
17 Jan 2001
Sen SO Vets Liaison Off
Dept 14 FSO
cc: RTC Inspector for the AO
CO CMO
Sea Has FLB
Sen Dir I and R FLB
Security Chief FLB
Hacienda Batman, Max
Captain FSO
Supercargo FSO
HAS FSO
Dir I and R FSO
MLO FSO
Staff MILO FSO
KR: Claire Reppen
This is a general write up regarding specific Out - Ethics I have observed Claire to be involved in.
I have checked up /seen her about 100 times since I took her on in November, 2000. Every time I see her she is doing the following things:
Putting on make-up
Getting ready to dye her hair
Buying a St. Pete Times newspaper
Plucking her eyebrows
Reading the newspaper
Reading a novel
Drinking coffee with a room mate or friend
Smoking
Visiting her daughter
Chatting with friends
Giving me bad or critical remarks about RTC, CMO terminals, Security and other crew.
Causing out PR with non-Scientologists
I have only once seen her resting.
I have never seen her exercising, like she is supposed too.
I also have not seen her twinning on Assists even though I gave her various elderlies who were happy to do this with her.
With my other elderlies I handle them myself if they are slack or out ethics. This is my job and any responsible SO member would do the same. When I have tried to take up these points with Claire her response is to write to very high Org terminals and spread black PR about me and natter about how I am mishandling her.
She seems a bit obsessed with reading the newspapers. When I took this up with her she insisted how the paper is not entheta and is informative. This is a bizarre viewpoint for a Scientologist let alone a S.O. member. She also reads the obituaries and tells me who died. This is destructive for her first Dynamic and will not contribute to her getting well. Hacienda Security says that she goes out every day like clockwork just to get a paper. One day she did not get cue as we had to go to an early morning medical appointment and she was very PTPed about getting one later that day.
She is also very addicted to coffee and cigarettes and when she left her coffee at Magnolia she was very PTPed about me getting it to her that day and asked me numerous times to get it as if it was some emergency. She smokes at lot and of course has been told to stop smoking many times by her doctors.
When I take her to doctors offices she is loud, rude, and sometimes curses loudly.
A few weeks ago I got her in with a government official (a Mr. Casisis) who in the past has gone out of his way for the Church and has been very helpful in getting our elderly crew onto Medicaire. (this saves us 100's of thousands or dollars)I have been working on my comm line with this guy for about 2 years and it has been going very good and proven very valuable. Anyway, I was very pleased he was going to see her and fit her in. At this point she decided she was too hungry to do the cycle right then. This was bad as it is extremely hard to see him and can take months to get a appointment for him. I asked the receptionist if had time to get a snack for my friend and unfortunately he went off and told Mr. Casisis that Claire was hungry.
Anyway at that point Mr. Casisis called us in to see him and we sat as his desk in the back rooms of this proper government office. He then asked Claire if she was hungry and I expected her to say no, she was fine. She could wait etc. and to my horror she said yes - and he asked her if she wanted some of his pizza and she said yes. He went off and got her this. Then she proceeded to eat this at /on his desk. It was hot and she used her fingers to scoop stuff off the top and it got messy bad she got tomato sauce around the val docs etc. Then she asked him for a cup of coffee! This was so inappropriate that I could not quite believe it was happening.
This was absolutely creating a shore flap and she should do lower conditions for that alone. This is just one story in dealing with her - just thought that as I kept saying she is troublesome without giving a lots of specifics - I should give some - so there is one story.
Anyway the next day the Hibo capered him with an Italian (he is Italian) take out meal brought to his office and we dead agented this as best as possible.
She also has done some inappropriate 2D stuff, like tightly hugging Ernie, who is 86 and he commented on it and she thought that was funny.
After she got back to the Hacienda she would frequently return to Magnolia. Manor and would spend the day there visiting and socializing. All the time saying she was way too ill to do 2 hours of light desk work 1-2 times a week, as I had asked her to do. She even arranged for them to give her meals there. This was out exchange and of course - out PR.
Also after she was back at the Hacienda for a few weeks she heard that someone elderly from Magnolia Manor had died and she went there and closed the manager at Magnolia to take her to the funeral. I do not even know if she was invited.
Also all these times she goes to Magnolia - she walks. This is outpointy as again she has been "too sick / too weak to work" but can go off around town socializing.
Per security - when her family was here she went off with them for the entire days for 1-2 weeks.
An per security she often goes out shopping at night with Dorothy Cosby.
I also saw that she was writing to the Feshbachs - this needs to be investigated to see if there is something bad going on. In the past she was very social with public and had received inappropriate gifts like a cell phone, and I think a VCR.
While she was at Magnolia she arranged for a public, Sandra Litchfield - to take her out shopping to help her do personal cycles. When I went over this with her and enlightened her on, the current FLB rules regarding fraternizing with public- she did not think she had done anything wrong.
It also should be checked out to see if she has gotten any other special favors or money from public. She has been too open with them - telling how rough it has been and how sick she has been, etc.
She also mentioned to me that her son had sent her money. This should be checked out as he is a recent freeloader.
A main complaint she has is that she has is that she needs to use the bathroom often. When I took her to Tampa to get a green card (to get her on medicaire) I was with her the whole day and she used the bathroom 1-2 times.
I also have wondered if she is faking being ill - so as to not to have to work. I doubt it - but factually her physical universe actions cause me to wonder about that. When I have had eldelies too sick to work they are mostly bedridden, and they dream and postulate about the day they can return to post and serve the group.
Katie Botha, a dorm mate of Claire's, told me she has stolen things and used her things without asking.
There is more - but I think there is more than enough data here for HCO.
This is true
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Kha Khan
14th May 2010, 08:54 PM
Need info, only in part to satisfy Scatman on WWP:
Kha, I note that Marty omitted the most important piece of information on that report which is the writer of it.
Why?I have no idea. Why don't you ask him?
Is it possible that the KR is a fabrication? Of course it is. One of the reasons I posted this both here and on ESMB is to get more information. Perhaps somebody on ESMB (less likely here, but possible) knows the identify of the woman who was in charge of the “care” of elderly FSO staff during the relevant period of time, and/or the identity of the person who wrote the KR.
Or perhaps one of the recipients of the KR can authenticate it if that person has blown.
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Wisened One
14th May 2010, 09:57 PM
Can ya reduce the size of that scan or re-add it as a clickable link? Thanks :)
Ted
14th May 2010, 10:32 PM
As bizarre as the author appears, it still looks like a valid report, not a fabrication.
Claire in her independence is described beautifully. I am sorry she had to suffer SO abuses and idiocies. But, she was there by her own choice.
Type4_PTS
14th May 2010, 10:47 PM
Can ya reduce the size of that scan or re-add it as a clickable link? Thanks :)
There are clickable links at the end of Martys post:
http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/
To me the report seems genuine. No need for Marty to make something like this up as it is typical for the Sea Org to treat their people this way.
This woman was a Class XII Auditor, made tens of millions of dollars for the Sea Org and this is how they treat her. The report and Martys post are worth reading, there is some interesting info in there as KK said.
Kha Khan
14th May 2010, 10:47 PM
From WWP with thanks (http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/knowledge-report-dying-sea-org-auditor-suffering-cancer-66602/#post1245113):
Hopefully transcribed correctly:
Chief Staff MAA
17 Jan 2001
Sen SO Vets Liaison Off
Dept 14 FSO
cc: RTC Inspector for the AO
CO CMO
Sea Has FLB
Sen Dir I and R FLB
Security Chief FLB
Hacienda Batman, Max
Captain FSO
Supercargo FSO
HAS FSO
Dir I and R FSO
MLO FSO
Staff MILO FSO
KR: Claire Reppen
This is a general write up regarding specific Out - Ethics I have observed Claire to be involved in.
I have checked up /seen her about 100 times since I took her on in November, 2000. Every time I see her she is doing the following things:
Putting on make-up
Getting ready to dye her hair
Buying a St. Pete Times newspaper
Plucking her eyebrows
Reading the newspaper
Reading a novel
Drinking coffee with a room mate or friend
Smoking
Visiting her daughter
Chatting with friends
Giving me bad or critical remarks about RTC, CMO terminals, Security and other crew.
Causing out PR with non-Scientologists
I have only once seen her resting.
I have never seen her exercising, like she is supposed too.
I also have not seen her twinning on Assists even though I gave her various elderlies who were happy to do this with her.
With my other elderlies I handle them myself if they are slack or out ethics. This is my job and any responsible SO member would do the same. When I have tried to take up these points with Claire her response is to write to very high Org terminals and spread black PR about me and natter about how I am mishandling her.
She seems a bit obsessed with reading the newspapers. When I took this up with her she insisted how the paper is not entheta and is informative. This is a bizarre viewpoint for a Scientologist let alone a S.O. member. She also reads the obituaries and tells me who died. This is destructive for her first Dynamic and will not contribute to her getting well. Hacienda Security says that she goes out every day like clockwork just to get a paper. One day she did not get cue as we had to go to an early morning medical appointment and she was very PTPed about getting one later that day.
She is also very addicted to coffee and cigarettes and when she left her coffee at Magnolia she was very PTPed about me getting it to her that day and asked me numerous times to get it as if it was some emergency. She smokes at lot and of course has been told to stop smoking many times by her doctors.
When I take her to doctors offices she is loud, rude, and sometimes curses loudly.
A few weeks ago I got her in with a government official (a Mr. Casisis) who in the past has gone out of his way for the Church and has been very helpful in getting our elderly crew onto Medicaire. (this saves us 100's of thousands or dollars)I have been working on my comm line with this guy for about 2 years and it has been going very good and proven very valuable. Anyway, I was very pleased he was going to see her and fit her in. At this point she decided she was too hungry to do the cycle right then. This was bad as it is extremely hard to see him and can take months to get a appointment for him. I asked the receptionist if had time to get a snack for my friend and unfortunately he went off and told Mr. Casisis that Claire was hungry.
Anyway at that point Mr. Casisis called us in to see him and we sat as his desk in the back rooms of this proper government office. He then asked Claire if she was hungry and I expected her to say no, she was fine. She could wait etc. and to my horror she said yes - and he asked her if she wanted some of his pizza and she said yes. He went off and got her this. Then she proceeded to eat this at /on his desk. It was hot and she used her fingers to scoop stuff off the top and it got messy bad she got tomato sauce around the val docs etc. Then she asked him for a cup of coffee! This was so inappropriate that I could not quite believe it was happening.
This was absolutely creating a shore flap and she should do lower conditions for that alone. This is just one story in dealing with her - just thought that as I kept saying she is troublesome without giving a lots of specifics - I should give some - so there is one story.
Anyway the next day the Hibo capered him with an Italian (he is Italian) take out meal brought to his office and we dead agented this as best as possible.
She also has done some inappropriate 2D stuff, like tightly hugging Ernie, who is 86 and he commented on it and she thought that was funny.
After she got back to the Hacienda she would frequently return to Magnolia. Manor and would spend the day there visiting and socializing. All the time saying she was way too ill to do 2 hours of light desk work 1-2 times a week, as I had asked her to do. She even arranged for them to give her meals there. This was out exchange and of course - out PR.
Also after she was back at the Hacienda for a few weeks she heard that someone elderly from Magnolia Manor had died and she went there and closed the manager at Magnolia to take her to the funeral. I do not even know if she was invited.
Also all these times she goes to Magnolia - she walks. This is outpointy as again she has been "too sick / too weak to work" but can go off around town socializing.
Per security - when her family was here she went off with them for the entire days for 1-2 weeks.
An per security she often goes out shopping at night with Dorothy Cosby.
I also saw that she was writing to the Feshbachs - this needs to be investigated to see if there is something bad going on. In the past she was very social with public and had received inappropriate gifts like a cell phone, and I think a VCR.
While she was at Magnolia she arranged for a public, Sandra Litchfield - to take her out shopping to help her do personal cycles. When I went over this with her and enlightened her on, the current FLB rules regarding fraternizing with public- she did not think she had done anything wrong.
It also should be checked out to see if she has gotten any other special favors or money from public. She has been too open with them - telling how rough it has been and how sick she has been, etc.
She also mentioned to me that her son had sent her money. This should be checked out as he is a recent freeloader.
A main complaint she has is that she has is that she needs to use the bathroom often. When I took her to Tampa to get a green card (to get her on medicaire) I was with her the whole day and she used the bathroom 1-2 times.
I also have wondered if she is faking being ill - so as to not to have to work. I doubt it - but factually her physical universe actions cause me to wonder about that. When I have had eldelies too sick to work they are mostly bedridden, and they dream and postulate about the day they can return to post and serve the group.
Katie Botha, a dorm mate of Claire's, told me she has stolen things and used her things without asking.
There is more - but I think there is more than enough data here for HCO.
This is true
Kha Khan
14th May 2010, 10:54 PM
Can ya reduce the size of that scan or re-add it as a clickable link? Thanks :)Links are already in the OP.
And here:
The PDFs of the Church of Scientology Knowledge Report on Claire Reppen follow:
Claire1.pdf (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=89VOFXC0)
Claire2.pdf (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9KOHS3N9)
Claire3.pdf (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5HJUHI77)
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Kha Khan
14th May 2010, 11:08 PM
From WWP with thanks (http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/knowledge-report-dying-sea-org-auditor-suffering-cancer-66602/#post1245164):
Claire Reppen appears in this video at 2:47
YouTube - Scientology Sea Org Member RPF Photo Dedication (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9SWdNKVZfY&feature=channel)
Free to shine
15th May 2010, 12:31 AM
This demonstrates exactly -
WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD RUN BY SCIENTOLOGY?
Kha, the scan in the OP is still huge and needs scrolling side to side, can it be reduced?
Kha Khan
15th May 2010, 12:44 AM
Kha, the scan in the OP is still huge and needs scrolling side to side, can it be reduced?Done.
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Kha Khan
15th May 2010, 12:50 AM
Can ya reduce the size of that scan or re-add it as a clickable link? Thanks :)Done.
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Kha Khan
15th May 2010, 01:06 AM
From the OP:
A main complaint she has is that she has is that she needs to use the bathroom often. When I took her to Tampa to get a green card (to get her on medicaire) I was with her the whole day and she used the bathroom 1-2 times.This is of interest.
What was her status before she got a green card? How long was she in that status? How did she get the green card?
And isn't it nice that, instead of paying for her medical care, the Church of Scientology instead made sure she (finally) got a green card and then put her on Medicare. After all, it is only right that the taxpayers of the United States, and not the Church of Scientology, pay for the medical care of Sea Org members.
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GreyWolf
15th May 2010, 01:08 AM
Thanks for the info Ka. I thank God every day that I was outqualled for the SO.
Kha Khan
15th May 2010, 01:14 AM
From WWP with thanks (http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/knowledge-report-dying-sea-org-auditor-suffering-cancer-66602/2/#post1245176):
OMG!
And She died 7 months later.
Name Birth Death Last Residence
CLAIRE REPPEN 11 Dec 1932 02 Aug 2001 33756 (Clearwater, Pinellas, FL)
Last Benefit SSN Issued
(none specified) 594-90-2989 Florida
( So glad she got about, read the damn newspaper, saw her family before she died and made some friends and grieved those who died before her.)
I'd like to know the name of this idiot Vet liason officer is
Kha Khan
15th May 2010, 01:47 AM
I do NOT know how reliable this is, if at all, but some people on Marty's blog are saying that the care giver who wrote the KR is Sherry Rabey. See here (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/#comment-25203) and here (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/#comment-25229).
In addition, there are numerous references to and comments about a "Sherry." Indeed, Marty himself says (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/#comment-25153):
Lunamoth and others, I wouldn’t be so quick to condemn Sherry personally. She mocked up this whole service for the elderly on her own origination when she was busted as a Cl XII. I got that she did it out of care and compassion for them. I am pretty sure she got coerced and forced into this mode of operation.
I am relaying this information not as a statement of fact or as proof, but as a starting point for investigation or refutation.
I am cross-posting this to WWP to see if it refreshes anyone's memory.
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ADDED from WWP (http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/knowledge-report-dying-sea-org-auditor-suffering-cancer-66602/3/#post1245276):
Several commentors on his blog who know Sheri. I'd link it, but personally, I can't go back there due to nausea, srsly. You can check it out. Also, as I mentioned, there are very few Cl XII auditors, and only one Sheri, and verified she was busted off tech lines. And Marty didn't say no, that wasn't Sheri, plus he was the one who let it "slip" in the first place that it was a Sherry Cl XII.
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Type4_PTS
15th May 2010, 02:18 AM
....... it also shows that it "is a bizarre viewpoint for a Scientologist" to think that "reading the newspaper" is "not entheta and is informative."
Reading the St Pete Times during that time period would have provided some coverage concerning the Lisa McPherson case.
Kha Khan
15th May 2010, 02:29 AM
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Claire Reppen and others doing construction work on Sunday, December 6, 1998 (http://home.snafu.de/tilman/clearwater1998/rpf.epf.html).
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From an In Memoriam page (http://www.upperbridge.org/claire-reppen.html):
Claire and I are the only two Canadians to have ever trained to the level of Class XII.
I have neither read the notice put out by the FSO, nor attended her Memorial service (held on August 11 2001 at the Sand Castle), so this Eulogy will remain inadequate.
Anyone who has information they feel would be a worthy contribution to this Eulogy is welcome to submit it at my address provided at the bottom of this page.
Claire joined the Sea Org in the 1970s. Her friends described her to me as a "Gentle Soul".
She pursued the rest of her Sea Org Career in Los Angeles, eventually becoming a Class VIII.
In 1980 She joined the Flag Service Org in Clearwater and became a NOTS auditor. She eventually became a Class XII Auditor around 1984.
For a time Claire and I worked in the same HGC, Claire was a very heavy smoker, going through two packs in a day. Although today, it seemes to me like a petty argument, at the time, as a non-smoker, it caused some friction between us.
In retrospect, the reason, seems to have been her deep care toward her numerous pcs. Subjected, like all other High Classed Flag Auditors to inhumane conditions, it was her way to deal with the impossible levels of stress while continuing to deliver the best possible auditing to her pcs.
In 1989 Claire completed Solo NOTS and OT VIII and became one of 5 Auditors and C/Ses to deliver services to OT VIII public.
The picture below was taken in Clearwater on Sunday, December 6, 1998. One sees an emaciated Claire Reppen, a "Star of the Team" and by then a "senior Citizen" being made to do hard Labor on a Sunday.
One can, but ponder what kind of organization makes the elderly do hard physical labor even on Sunday for essentially no pay, so that it does not have to pay outside contractors to build its Christmas lights and decorations
This is one of the last pictures taken of Claire.
"A Class XII on Flag is listened to by others with a hush even if he is only commenting on the weather. These are the stars of the team". LRH (HCOB 25 August 1971 HOW TO GET RESULTS IN AN HGC)
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Type4_PTS
15th May 2010, 02:44 AM
"A Class XII on Flag is listened to by others with a hush even if he is only commenting on the weather. These are the stars of the team". LRH (HCOB 25 August 1971 HOW TO GET RESULTS IN AN HGC)
Per Marty, she got busted off her post by RTC because she refused to agree with DM's altered definition of an F/N. For that she was sentenced to hard labor at 66 years old after making the FSO about 50 million dollars. :grouch:
Patricia Curtis
15th May 2010, 05:50 AM
This demonstrates exactly -
WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD RUN BY SCIENTOLOGY?
No, my dear friend, I would not want to live in a world run by Scientology. I hate Scientology. And this Knowledge Report performed on Claire Reppen contains a few of the reasons why.
I hate Scientology for teaching people that visiting with family, chatting with friends, taking walks, hugging people, reading the newspaper, eating good food, and generally enjoying life are punishable offenses. This is so far beyond wrong…it would be laughable if it wasn’t so damn heartbreaking.
I hate Scientology for tricking people into believing they are free thinkers when the reality is they stopped thinking freely the moment they sat in a chair facing another person and were instructed to stare at that person while a third party determined whether their actions received a “pass” or a “flunk.” Scientologists, the moment you subjected yourself to be “trained,” the moment you allowed another person to judge your performance, the moment another person decided your pass-or-flunk fate -- from that exact moment you stopped thinking freely and became contingent to the approval of other persons and/or the Scientology system of laws. Admit it. Your every action as a Scientologist is subject to the laws of Scientology and by how other people perceive you are adhering (or not) to those laws. This is not the definition of a free thinker. A free thinker does not depend on rules, regulations, policies, commands, directives, and subjective “passes” or “flunks” to dictate their lives. That’s what makes them “free” to “think” “freely.” You know, as in free of form limitations. Your training has conditioned you toward automatic thought and away from freethinking. And I hate that.
I hate Scientology for forwarding a philosophy of cutting people off from one another. There is nothing more important than human connection. Nothing. Inserting wedges of enmity between persons to any degree is pure evil and the surest sign that the goal of Scientology’s philosophical structure is control. If the greatest degree of creation in our lives comes through relationships, then the easiest way to control a person is through emotional isolation. I hate that Scientology promotes disconnection and I don’t care who came up with the idea - it’s evil.
I hate Scientology for promoting words like “mud ball” and “meat body” to describe this physical universe. What a travesty to set a person at odds with this magnificent planet and the beauty and glory of their own human body. These bodies and this world provide limitless possibilities for us to grow and learn and discover who we really are – which is what it’s all about, right? There is no personal growth in viewing this as a “prison planet” where everyone is suffering and only Scientology can do something about it. That is an abstract and impersonal perspective of people and the world which contributes zero to answering the question, who am I really?
I hate Scientology for relegating people’s medical needs to government programs instead of "doing something about it yourself!" ... Scientology! Here's what Scientology does for people's health. First you lure them into chain smoking and drinking copious amounts of coffee in order to keep up with your horrendous time demands. Then you use up every bit of their strength, energy, gifts, skills, and talent to further your money-grubbing goals. Then, when their biology finally breaks down under your relentless push to brand the world with the Scientology logo, you deliver them up to the nearest Medicare/Medicaid social worker and you wash your hands of them until they die. How you manage your life-exiting members is on a perfect par with how you manage your life-entering members. You simply abort them.
:angry:
I never knew Claire Reppen but she sounds like a lovely lady. Frankly, she sounds like someone who really did want to do something good in the world. This seems to be true of a good number of Scientologists – including my friend “Benny”. I know I’m sounding like sour grapes here, and I don’t usually go there, but reading that KR made me ill. I don't hate Scientologists - to be sure! But Scientology is an atrosity in my mind.
Sorry if this has been too over the top.
RIP, Claire.
AnonSunshine
15th May 2010, 06:14 AM
What an unbelievable KR. It shows that the person who wrote it has no idea on how to treat an elder person. I am over 50, and go to the bathroom often, because my bladder is not that good any more. I can not hold urine too long, and if my bladder is completely full, I become incontinent. So my solution is to go to the bathroom oftenly as to not allow my bladder to get full. In my
50's, I go much more often to the bathroom than this lady.
I was a public member, but I had never agreed with that of not reading newspaper, or watch TV. I always had TV in my home, and always have read the newspaper, or the news in the web.
Since when socializing with other people is a degraded thing? Degraded is to put veterans SO members to use Medicaid as if they were indigent, after they had worked for Scientology for so long with an exploited pay. I bet she was really hungry. SO members do not eat well, the food sucks.
I was shocked reading that KR. It made me sick to know that DM expends the money with him instead of honoring and reciprocating to members for years of service in the SO. This to me is elder abuse in full, and wasting tax payer money for benefits that Miscavige should be paying out of the millions of dolars that SO members made for Scientology, not knowing that it was to be used by DM lifestyle.
DM MUST BE STOPPED. MEDICAID IS BEING USED BY MISCAVIGE FOR THE SO ELDER AFTER THEY PRODUCED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR DAVID MISCAVIGE. JUST THAT IS ABSOLUTE FRAUD. PLEASE AUTHORITIES INVESTIGATE IT.
I told you I was trouble
15th May 2010, 06:39 AM
:bigcry:
So sad, I just want to wrap Claire in a warm blanket and get her away from that hell hole of a place ... but it is too late now.
Out-Ethics
15th May 2010, 07:13 AM
The KR certainly could have been made up but it does put forth all the insanities that goes on in SO. I'm surprised there isn't (maybe there is) a senior RPF. With all the "crimes" Claire committed in the KR the church should make sure when she comes back she is RPFed at birth. What a bunch of crap!!!
Kha Khan
15th May 2010, 07:18 AM
DM MUST BE STOPPED. MEDICAID IS BEING USED BY MISCAVIGE FOR THE SO ELDER AFTER THEY PRODUCED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR DAVID MISCAVIGE. JUST THAT IS ABSOLUTE FRAUD. PLEASE AUTHORITIES INVESTIGATE IT.It is not merely DM that must be stopped. It is the Church of Scientology that must be stopped. It is Scientology that must be stopped.
Do not fall into Marty's trap of blaming everything on DM. The evil and harm predate the rise of DM. The evil and harm of Scientology are rooted in, and arise out of, Scientology scripture and doctrine. KSW. Fair Game. "The greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics" (i.e., the ends justify the means). DBs. PTSes. Disconnection. Psychs as not only evil, but the source of all evil for all time. And on and on.
As bad as DM is, it was not DM who overboarded people into the ocean, as opposed to a pond. It was not DM who put children into a chain locker.
Marty is a very persuasive, very effective individual. (He would not have risen to the top of the Darwinian world of COS upper management if he were not.) He is also selling shit and calling it chocolate ice cream. Do you really want a bite?
/
Arthur Dent
15th May 2010, 07:33 AM
When I started reading this KR I thought it was so outrageous that I laughed. I didn't know the subject or the author and I thought it was hysterically funny that someone would KR an elderly person for reading a novel or wanting the paper...especially someone who is simply biding their time. My laughter abruptly stopped when I realized it was all too real. I didn't know the person died. I had almost thought it was a spoof. That's because I was never in the S.O. Decades in the cult but so sheltered from certain aspects of what went on behind the iron curtain of the S.O. The S.O. keeping these things hidden is what has given the cofs much of it's sustenance and longevity.
This KR tells so much in a nutshell. CofS blames the psychs for labeling children for fidgeting or not paying attention or speaking up. So very sad that this does happen. But how is this any different than labeling an adult for reading novels, smoking, not wanting to play by "the rules," wanting to mourn losses, chatting with friends, passing the time, eating, hugging someone, feeling any sensation of life. How?
The KR is good in that it exposes a lot of the criminal mind-set as well.
After reading more I realized Claire was dead and after I saw her pic I realized who she was and that I'd seen her before. RIP Claire.:rose: ....and good for you for earning such a wonderful and colorful epitaph!
SheWhoWatches
15th May 2010, 08:28 AM
When I started reading this KR I thought it was so outrageous that I laughed. I didn't know the subject or the author and I thought it was hysterically funny that someone would KR an elderly person for reading a novel or wanting the paper...especially someone who is simply biding their time. My laughter abruptly stopped when I realized it was all too real. I didn't know the person died. I had almost thought it was a spoof. That's because I was never in the S.O. Decades in the cult but so sheltered from certain aspects of what went on behind the iron curtain of the S.O. The S.O. keeping these things hidden is what has given the cofs much of it's sustenance and longevity.
This KR tells so much in a nutshell. CofS blames the psychs for labeling children for fidgeting or not paying attention or speaking up. So very sad that this does happen. But how is this any different than labeling an adult for reading novels, smoking, not wanting to play by "the rules," wanting to mourn losses, chatting with friends, passing the time, eating, hugging someone, feeling any sensation of life. How?
The KR is good in that it exposes a lot of the criminal mind-set as well.
After reading more I realized Claire was dead and after I saw her pic I realized who she was and that I'd seen her before. RIP Claire.:rose: ....and good for you for earning such a wonderful and colorful epitaph!
What I have a hard time understanding is why anyone would support LRH after learning the truth about his life & the cult's roots?
Can anyone answer that or is it just blatant denial?
http://wiki.whyweprotest.net/Scientology,_Satanism,_Left-Hand-Path
Ogsonofgroo
15th May 2010, 09:14 AM
It is not merely DM that must be stopped. It is the Church of Scientology that must be stopped. It is Scientology that must be stopped.
Do not fall into Marty's trap of blaming everything on DM. The evil and harm predate the rise of DM. The evil and harm of Scientology are rooted in, and arise out of, Scientology scripture and doctrine. KSW. Fair Game. "The greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics" (i.e., the ends justify the means). DBs. PTSes. Disconnection. Psychs as not only evil, but the source of all evil for all time. And on and on.
As bad as DM is, it was not DM who overboarded people into the ocean, as opposed to a pond. It was not DM who put children into a chain locker.
Marty is a very persuasive, very effective individual. (He would not have risen to the top of the Darwinian world of COS upper management if he were not.) He is also selling shit and calling it chocolate ice cream. Do you really want a bite?
/
:goodpost: Yup.
Magoo
15th May 2010, 09:38 AM
Soooooooooo sad! One more person I knew, now gone. :sadangel:
The last time I saw Claire she told me, "Well, I've heard your Mother-in-law's
story, and your husband's side of things. You are the last person I need to audit and hear your side". It was odd----what did they say? Oh well, c'est la vie.
Most of all, I hope she has a flight high and wide --filled with love. :bighug:
Re
What I have a hard time understanding is why anyone would support LRH after learning the truth about his life & the cult's roots?
Can anyone answer that or is it just blatant denial?
I don't think people *do* support LRH after they learn the truth about his life and cult roots. Those that still support him, haven't taken the time to learn, OR it is just flat out
denial as you say, imnsho.
Tory/Magoo
Opter
15th May 2010, 01:25 PM
No, my dear friend, I would not want to live in a world run by Scientology. I hate Scientology. And this Knowledge Report performed on Claire Reppen contains a few of the reasons why.
I hate Scientology for teaching people that visiting with family, chatting with friends, taking walks, hugging people, reading the newspaper, eating good food, and generally enjoying life are punishable offenses. This is so far beyond wrong…it would be laughable if it wasn’t so damn heartbreaking.
I hate Scientology for tricking people into believing they are free thinkers when the reality is they stopped thinking freely the moment they sat in a chair facing another person and were instructed to stare at that person while a third party determined whether their actions received a “pass” or a “flunk.” Scientologists, the moment you subjected yourself to be “trained,” the moment you allowed another person to judge your performance, the moment another person decided your pass-or-flunk fate -- from that exact moment you stopped thinking freely and became contingent to the approval of other persons and/or the Scientology system of laws. Admit it. Your every action as a Scientologist is subject to the laws of Scientology and by how other people perceive you are adhering (or not) to those laws. This is not the definition of a free thinker. A free thinker does not depend on rules, regulations, policies, commands, directives, and subjective “passes” or “flunks” to dictate their lives. That’s what makes them “free” to “think” “freely.” You know, as in free of form limitations. Your training has conditioned you toward automatic thought and away from freethinking. And I hate that.
I hate Scientology for forwarding a philosophy of cutting people off from one another. There is nothing more important than human connection. Nothing. Inserting wedges of enmity between persons to any degree is pure evil and the surest sign that the goal of Scientology’s philosophical structure is control. If the greatest degree of creation in our lives comes through relationships, then the easiest way to control a person is through emotional isolation. I hate that Scientology promotes disconnection and I don’t care who came up with the idea - it’s evil.
I hate Scientology for promoting words like “mud ball” and “meat body” to describe this physical universe. What a travesty to set a person at odds with this magnificent planet and the beauty and glory of their own human body. These bodies and this world provide limitless possibilities for us to grow and learn and discover who we really are – which is what it’s all about, right? There is no personal growth in viewing this as a “prison planet” where everyone is suffering and only Scientology can do something about it. That is an abstract and impersonal perspective of people and the world which contributes zero to answering the question, who am I really?
I hate Scientology for relegating people’s medical needs to government programs instead of "doing something about it yourself!" ... Scientology! Here's what Scientology does for people's health. First you lure them into chain smoking and drinking copious amounts of coffee in order to keep up with your horrendous time demands. Then you use up every bit of their strength, energy, gifts, skills, and talent to further your money-grubbing goals. Then, when their biology finally breaks down under your relentless push to brand the world with the Scientology logo, you deliver them up to the nearest Medicare/Medicaid social worker and you wash your hands of them until they die. How you manage your life-exiting members is on a perfect par with how you manage your life-entering members. You simply abort them.
:angry:
I never knew Claire Reppen but she sounds like a lovely lady. Frankly, she sounds like someone who really did want to do something good in the world. This seems to be true of a good number of Scientologists – including my friend “Benny”. I know I’m sounding like sour grapes here, and I don’t usually go there, but reading that KR made me ill. I don't hate Scientologists - to be sure! But Scientology is an atrosity in my mind.
Sorry if this has been too over the top.
RIP, Claire.
You do not sound like sour grapes and this was not over the top. You just said it as it really is!
Opter
Searcher Again
15th May 2010, 04:24 PM
Makeup=overt?
Interesting
Telepathetic
15th May 2010, 04:59 PM
This makes me sick. Even if this one isn't true, I've read similar "KRs." The worst in me is surfacing right now...:angry:
TP
Wisened One
15th May 2010, 05:53 PM
Claire and I are the only two Canadians to have ever trained to the level of Class XII.
Claire joined the Sea Org in the 1970s. Her friends described her to me as a "Gentle Soul".
In 1980 She joined the Flag Service Org in Clearwater and became a NOTS auditor. She eventually became a Class XII Auditor around 1984.
In 1989 Claire completed Solo NOTS and OT VIII
The picture was taken in Clearwater on Sunday, December 6, 1998. One sees an emaciated Claire Reppen, a "Star of the Team" and by then a "senior Citizen" being made to do hard Labor on a Sunday.
One can, but ponder what kind of organization makes the elderly do hard physical labor even on Sunday for essentially no pay, so that it does not have to pay outside contractors to build its Christmas lights and decorations
This is one of the last pictures taken of Claire.
.................................................. ................................................
:omg: She was a CLASS TWELVE and OT 8 and was doing hard labor while suffering the last stages of Breast Cancer? Oh stuff like THIS just makes me wanna.......just......:storm:
Out-Ethics
15th May 2010, 10:18 PM
It is not merely DM that must be stopped. It is the Church of Scientology that must be stopped. It is Scientology that must be stopped.
Do not fall into Marty's trap of blaming everything on DM. The evil and harm predate the rise of DM. The evil and harm of Scientology are rooted in, and arise out of, Scientology scripture and doctrine. KSW. Fair Game. "The greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics" (i.e., the ends justify the means). DBs. PTSes. Disconnection. Psychs as not only evil, but the source of all evil for all time. And on and on.
As bad as DM is, it was not DM who overboarded people into the ocean, as opposed to a pond. It was not DM who put children into a chain locker.
Marty is a very persuasive, very effective individual. (He would not have risen to the top of the Darwinian world of COS upper management if he were not.) He is also selling shit and calling it chocolate ice cream. Do you really want a bite?/
This is very true. DM didn't start this but has taken Hubbard's insanity to manipulation levels that Hubbard himself would envy. And Marty is nothing more than biding his time to come in and rescue the Tech. Scientology is a daily dose of hypnosis of telling people of the "bridge to freedom" but the underlying hidden suggestion is "give me all your money" or "work like slaves so that the Church can make money." It is an evil intentional trap that uses the bait and switch method.
If Hubbard's claims about Scientology were actually true then there wouldn't be a single person here posting on this board. Claire's story is just like thousands of other stories out there. They start off with such high hopes but in the end the harsh reality is that Scientology is nothing but a scam and that those members are being completely used to further that scam. That is the reality of life in the SO no matter what any of them say. All we can do is keep reporting the truth. For me this really helps to read such stories as this. Thanks!
Out-Ethics
15th May 2010, 10:18 PM
It is not merely DM that must be stopped. It is the Church of Scientology that must be stopped. It is Scientology that must be stopped.
Do not fall into Marty's trap of blaming everything on DM. The evil and harm predate the rise of DM. The evil and harm of Scientology are rooted in, and arise out of, Scientology scripture and doctrine. KSW. Fair Game. "The greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics" (i.e., the ends justify the means). DBs. PTSes. Disconnection. Psychs as not only evil, but the source of all evil for all time. And on and on.
As bad as DM is, it was not DM who overboarded people into the ocean, as opposed to a pond. It was not DM who put children into a chain locker.
Marty is a very persuasive, very effective individual. (He would not have risen to the top of the Darwinian world of COS upper management if he were not.) He is also selling shit and calling it chocolate ice cream. Do you really want a bite?/
This is very true. DM didn't start this but has taken Hubbard's insanity to manipulation levels that Hubbard himself would envy. And Marty is nothing more than biding his time to come in and rescue the Tech. Scientology is a daily dose of hypnosis of telling people of the "bridge to freedom" but the underlying hidden suggestion is "give me all your money" or "work like slaves so that the Church can make money." It is an evil intentional trap that uses the bait and switch method.
If Hubbard's claims about Scientology were actually true then there wouldn't be a single person here posting on this board. Claire's story is just like thousands of other stories out there. They start off with such high hopes but in the end the harsh reality is that Scientology is nothing but a scam and that those members are being completely used to further that scam. That is the reality of life in the SO no matter what any of them say. All we can do is keep reporting the truth. For me this really helps to read such stories as this. Thanks!
Blue Spirit
15th May 2010, 11:24 PM
You do not sound like sour grapes and this was not over the top. You just said it as it really is!
Opter
I second that !
Supporting this insane degraded Nazi-type group has sickened me in my heart.
Claire was obviously only trying to have a little bit of life at the end.
Any honorable group would have given her a special award for her major
contribution, and attended to her real needs.
Breast cancer can be handled with certain programs, but NOT in the environment she was in.
If the group had ANY sanity they would have handled her problem, even as an
investment in more Class-12 auditing.
It is clear to me that the environment of the CO$ induces cancer.
LRH's tech has a lot of value, but he in his later years and DM all along decided that it should be destroyed. The ultimate insanity of reactive control.
Fancy
16th May 2010, 01:13 AM
If they are doing this I would check to see if they are using Medicaid for the regular staff too.
From the OP:This is of interest.
What was her status before she got a green card? How long was she in that status? How did she get the green card?
And isn't it nice that, instead of paying for her medical care, the Church of Scientology instead made sure she (finally) got a green card and then put her on Medicare. After all, it is only right that the taxpayers of the United States, and not the Church of Scientology, pay for the medical care of Sea Org members.
/
Fairplay
16th May 2010, 03:24 AM
As bizarre as the author appears, it still looks like a valid report, not a fabrication.
Claire in her independence is described beautifully. I am sorry she had to suffer SO abuses and idiocies. But, she was there by her own choice.
To TED
I think you are right about Claires' independence. But maybe she had limited choices then. I remember that when I escaped from a 10 week "isolation" (false imprisonment ) in late '70s, I found myself without a place to live and no money. I was in my twenties at that time and that was hard enough. I cant speak for Claire of course but it must have been near on impossible for her to start a new life considering the details in the 'kr'.
Lynette
Fairplay
16th May 2010, 03:45 AM
I noticed that the 'kr' stated that Claire was not exercising. Yet, it also states that Claire did a lot of walking.
I think walking is classified as exercise.
The author of the 'kr' was therefore false reporting.
IRChristo
16th May 2010, 03:54 AM
This is very typical of the pettiness of knowledge reports. It is completely believable. If you are ex-SO or staff then you know I'm speaking truth. If you are not familiar with the writing of "KR's" then I want to assure you that there is nothing preposterous about this example. On its surface, I believe it to be authentic.
Type4_PTS
16th May 2010, 03:59 AM
I believe it to be authentic.
I also have no reason to doubt its authenticity.
By the way........Welcome to ESMB Chris! :welcome2:
I told you I was trouble
16th May 2010, 04:12 AM
What was 'interesting' to me when reading the KR was that I wasn't shocked in any normal sense of the word ... disgusted and saddened, absolutely, but not shocked.
I suppose when you have been there and experienced and witnessed that endless spite and the appalling treatment of women in general in the SO, you become a bit blasé.
I just re-read the KR as a normal person would that has never experienced the SO or anything like it.
Phew ... it is powerful.
And I am shocked.
I want them all out ... and I want them all out soon, and that includes the writer of this KR.
I told you I was trouble
16th May 2010, 04:22 AM
This is very typical of the pettiness of knowledge reports. It is completely believable. If you are ex-SO or staff then you know I'm speaking truth. If you are not familiar with the writing of "KR's" then I want to assure you that there is nothing preposterous about this example. On its surface, I believe it to be authentic.
Welcome IRChristo,
This is your first post and on such a sad thread ... I'll welcome you properly when I see you again, but I am very happy you are here.
:yes:
Kha Khan
16th May 2010, 04:55 AM
More purported info from Marty's place. Take it for what it is worth.
Cured Robot // May 15, 2010 at 2:55 pm (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/#comment-25338):
Some other ugly facts:
1) It’s pretty well known by now the miniscule pay SO members receive in comparison to DM’s multi thousands and other luxurious accomodations, compare this to Claire’s $7/wk income while at the MM (Magnolia Manor) battling for her life and with this she had to buy all her toilteries, newspaper, coffee, cigs, clothing, etc.
2) Claire was not allowed to step foot into the Ft. Harrison or even on the avenue, due to her “condition” as it would be out “PR”.
3) Claire’s Memorial Service held at the Sand Castle was not attended by SO members, probably not even announced in the OOD’s (Orders of the Day and the Captain FSO Debbie Cook fully aware of the event didn’t even show her face and the Memorial Service was conveniently scheduled Sat morn which is the only rare time the the SO crew get to sleep in and do laundry).
Even if Claire did commit the “crime” of protesting against the bastardization of FN’s by DM, after 30+ yrs of dedicated service to mankind by this stellar being to not be acknowledged properly is hard to fathom the mindset this group was driven to by DM and his robots.
Watching Eyes // May 15, 2010 at 5:48 pm (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/#comment-25356):
re Claire’s memorial service at the Sandcastle:
It was held outside. That was because her son Mike was a freeloader (oh horrors) and they wouldn’t let him inside! I kid you not. So it was held on the patio behind the Sandcastle, in the sun. It was hot as blazes.
Cured Robot // May 15, 2010 (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%e2%80%93-2001-%e2%80%93-fly-in-peace/#comment-25364):
An FSO staff member told me that being a freeloader is considered almost equivalent to being a declared SP. Interesting bastardization. It’s like how racism gets started someone makes a 3P comment and voila! The SP now gets his satisfaction by taking people out with just an utterance. So Mike worked a quarter of century of dedicated loyal service and wasn’t allowed to step foot inside any of the Flag buildings even in light of his Mother’s death, that is pretty fucked up. With type of insane mentality I wouldn’t want to step foot in there!
Oh, and about the "freeloader" son, Mike, who Claire received money from, there is this (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/claire-reppen-1933-%E2%80%93-2001-%E2%80%93-fly-in-peace/#comment-25262):
AlexMetheny // May 15, 2010 at 1:25 am | Reply
I knew Mike Reppin in the early 80′s. He was sort of the Clint Eastwood of qual terminals. Anybody know what he is doing these days??
Cured Robot // May 15, 2010 at 7:17 pm
He left the SO after 25 yrs, he committed the crime of having a kid. I heard he lives in OC CA. He’s still married to that damn woman that had that kid (lol). I had the task of trying to get him to divorce her so he could stay in the SO.
mk // May 15, 2010 at 7:41 pm
I met Mike on the Pac RPF, in the late 90′s. He is out of the SO. You will find him on facebook.
Welcome to the Sea Org.
/
Once bitten
16th May 2010, 05:13 AM
The thread should be in the Crimes thread. This KR is a tragic crime against humanity.
I am a breast cancer survivor, and am involved with older people who are terminally ill with breast cancer. These brave women are pampered: we hold free make-up afternoons which are sponsored by leading make-up companies who also pay the beauticians in order that each woman has her own beautician for the afternoon. We also have wig people come in to show the women the types of wigs available and many of us try on the weird and wonderful in the wig line just to have a laugh. We share stories both tragic and wonderful, and we hug and hold each other at random and at our will.
We celebrate the lives of the terminally ill, with chat nights and speakers. We freely give our time to take them shopping, have a coffee, watch children at play, go to the theatre or a concert, or just sit and read the paper or a book to them. The paper is terribly important to the terminally ill because many of them have a thirst to know what happened in the world as they were dying. Also important to them is to have someone sit and look at their photo albums.
I am beyond words for the cruelty and lack of empathy and compassion shown to this feisty old lady who should have been allowed to die with dignity. Thank you for posting it even though it has made many readers cry.
Type4_PTS
16th May 2010, 05:15 AM
Welcome to the Sea Org.
To hear this stuff is so maddening! :angry:
To treat these people in this way after they've devoted their lives to furthering your purpose......I really can't find the words to even articulate how that makes me feel. One of the worst betrayals you can do to a human being. This whole story about Claire and her son would be a great one for some national media to pick up. This story needs to be communicated broadly.
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