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MAX YOUR CREDIT
21st July 2010, 07:22 AM
Here's an article that came out today about a reality show with Tom, Katie and Suri. hmmmmmmm, interesting.


http://blog.taragana.com/e/2010/07/20/tom-cruise-planning-reality-show-150461/


The actor is keen to show that his family’s lifestyle is not weird just because they follow controversial faith Scientology.

“They want to portray themselves as a normal family who do normal things. They are aware that Katie is being perceived as ‘brainwashed’ and they want to change that,” said a source.

Thrak
21st July 2010, 07:29 AM
If only he knew what reality was.

Ethics Officer
21st July 2010, 07:47 AM
Just because Tom says he is normal and makes a film of them playing normal doesn't make Scientology normal. Sucker's been played like a punk and wants to dance around in denial, obviously a sign of being in a cult.

GreyWolf
21st July 2010, 07:54 AM
Too bad they won't be showing him in the auditing room. And I am not sure anymore that he is a puppet. I think that since he came back into the fold and became an un-offical spokesperson, he may know more than we think.

Thrak
21st July 2010, 08:49 AM
Too bad they won't be showing him in the auditing room. And I am not sure anymore that he is a puppet. I think that since he came back into the fold and became an un-offical spokesperson, he may know more than we think.

In auditing room he kick bt ass bigtime.

degraded being
21st July 2010, 09:15 AM
I wanna see it. But i wanna see it ALL.
I wanna see little Suri put in lowers cos she peed her pants.
I wanna see Katy asking for a donation for sex so Tom won't be out-exchange.
I wanna see Tom in the bedroom all by himself, hooked up to his lie detector and talking to space cooties.
I wanna see Tom drilling Katy to scream at an ashtray.
I wannna see "Rons Office" in a special wing of Tom's mansion.
I want......

IMMORTAL
21st July 2010, 01:47 PM
Here's an article that came out today about a reality show with Tom, Katie and Suri. hmmmmmmm, interesting.


http://blog.taragana.com/e/2010/07/20/tom-cruise-planning-reality-show-150461/


The actor is keen to show that his family’s lifestyle is not weird just because they follow controversial faith Scientology.

“They want to portray themselves as a normal family who do normal things. They are aware that Katie is being perceived as ‘brainwashed’ and they want to change that,” said a source.

:puke: It shouldn't have to matter to him what anybody thinks. And, I don't see how it's going to "prove" that "their lifestyle is not weird". The film will be edited to within an inch of it's life and probably have to have issue authority from DM anyway. :whatever: I'll never watch it.

Tiger Lily
21st July 2010, 02:31 PM
That's very surprising -- I had the impression that Tom and Katie were very private people. I wonder whose idea this was, I'd bet it wasn't Tom's.

Kirstie Alley is doing one too. . . . I wonder if this is a new Scientology tactic to establish ARC or something.

BC1
21st July 2010, 03:56 PM
I want to watch out of curiosity because I think it will label him as cheesy and be the end of his real career. On the other hand I can't stand TC and don't want to help his show by watching. Hhhhmmm.... what to do.

Kookaburra
21st July 2010, 04:12 PM
Too bad they won't be showing him in the auditing room. And I am not sure anymore that he is a puppet. I think that since he came back into the fold and became an un-offical spokesperson, he may know more than we think.

I disagree. I think that Tom is one of the most duped DMbots of the lot. He has not only drunk the kool-aid, he has one ginormous ego that has been stroked to within and inch of its life, and a self-importance button that has Tom convinced that what he does in his role as a senior Scientology spokesperson is vital for the survival of the planet and mankind.

He actually knows jack shit. His contact with Scientology is completely choreographed. No-one is even allowed to speak to him. Many SO are not allowed anywhere near him. He is escorted everywhere he goes. His view of Scientology is so very different from a normal person it would be unrecognizable.

Alanzo
21st July 2010, 05:24 PM
One of the major characteristics that Tom Cruise has displayed for at least the last 5 years is that he is not able to see himself as others see him. The Matt Lauer interview, the couch jumping thing - all relate to this blindness in him.

This will not go well for Tom Cruise and his family if he decides to do this.

I really hope he doesn't do this. He's just an actor, and he has not been promoting Scientology like he used to. This would be a very very stupid move which I hope the people around him are advising against.

I will watch it, but I will feel sick to my stomach for him while I am doing it - which I guess is the magic combination for a successful reality TV show.

Alanzo
21st July 2010, 05:27 PM
I want to watch out of curiosity because I think it will label him as cheesy and be the end of his real career. On the other hand I can't stand TC and don't want to help his show by watching. Hhhhmmm.... what to do.

I'm going PTS over this, too.

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
21st July 2010, 05:38 PM
I want to watch out of curiosity because I think it will label him as cheesy and be the end of his real career. On the other hand I can't stand TC and don't want to help his show by watching. Hhhhmmm.... what to do.

This will not be a reality show, this will be a well scripted propaganda infomercial for the sole purpose of damage control. You might as well waste your time picking up a copy of one of the cult's propaganda rags and reading it, because the content will be exactly the same. http://ultimatesportsboards.com/forums/img/smilies/puke.gif

Type4_PTS
21st July 2010, 05:45 PM
Here's an article that came out today about a reality show with Tom, Katie and Suri. hmmmmmmm, interesting.


Both of the top two guys working with DM for many years (Marty and Mike) have stated that Tom and DM had an unnaturally close relationship........or something to that effect. If this new TV show is going to be a REALITY Show shouldn't it include this aspect of their lives? I hope not! :ohmy:

Alanzo
21st July 2010, 05:49 PM
Both of the top two guys working with DM for many years (Marty and Mike) have stated that Tom and DM had an unnaturally close relationship........or something to that effect. If this new TV show is going to be a REALITY Show shouldn't it include this aspect of their lives? I hope not! :ohmy:

Maybe DM could be the Special Guest Star.

We could see them working out and taking saunas together.

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
21st July 2010, 06:04 PM
Both of the top two guys working with DM for many years (Marty and Mike) have stated that Tom and DM had an unnaturally close relationship........or something to that effect. If this new TV show is going to be a REALITY Show shouldn't it include this aspect of their lives? I hope not! :ohmy:

Tom Cruise is bringing back the 1950's 'perfect family sitcom' and calling it a reality show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od4DPR3lySE

Unfortunately for Tom Cruise, this is not what people want to see. Dysfunctional train wrecks are what bring in the ratings. People do not want to see Tom Cruise trying to act normal, they want to see him acting like Gary Busey after a night of hard drinking.

Good twin
21st July 2010, 06:41 PM
The best thing they could do to show that Katie's not brainwashed is to make the theme "Katie hires a cabana boy" and make it an elimination show. I'd watch it. You could have the TC DM subplot causing some of the contestants to question their own manliness.

That would be better than "Rock of Love' or "Tia Tequila".

Krautfag
21st July 2010, 07:35 PM
This will not be a reality show, this will be a well scripted propaganda infomercial for the sole purpose of damage control. You might as well waste your time picking up a copy of one of the cult's propaganda rags and reading it, because the content will be exactly the same. http://ultimatesportsboards.com/forums/img/smilies/puke.gif

Yes, and you know how well the cult is at doing propaganda lately :D This could turn out to be extraordinarily lulzy, I wanna see it.

olska
21st July 2010, 07:36 PM
Tom Cruise is bringing back the 1950's 'perfect family sitcom' and calling it a reality show

Unfortunately for Tom Cruise, this is not what people want to see. Dysfunctional train wrecks are what bring in the ratings. People do not want to see Tom Cruise trying to act normal, they want to see him acting like Gary Busey after a night of hard drinking.

Yeah! I luv luv luv Gary Busey!

If Tommy boy would only embrace his natural crazy and let it out more, for all the world to see, as Gary does, then well ... golly gee whiz! I might even be inspired to watch such a show!

Let's have Suri throwing tantrums until she gets to wear whatever she wants! Let's see Kate rolling her eyes and marking the days off the calendar until her marriage contract is fulfilled! Let's see TC micro-managing every aspect of life he touches everywhere, and doing the old cut-the-neck gesture when some lowly peon on a set or working in his household has the nerve to look at him! Let's see him posing for calendar art and suggestive clothing ads and then beating a desk with fists in time to the chant, "I'm not gay! I'm not gay! I'm not gay!" Let's see TC and DM in boys-on-bikes moonlight speed chases around the desert, ending with self-congratulatory boys-on-boys giggle-and-hoot sessions up there on the mesa, all alone, under the moonlight...

Damn, somebody help me! I should write scripts for this show!

FinallyMe
21st July 2010, 11:58 PM
This will not be a reality show, this will be a well scripted propaganda infomercial for the sole purpose of damage control. You might as well waste your time picking up a copy of one of the cult's propaganda rags and reading it, because the content will be exactly the same. http://ultimatesportsboards.com/forums/img/smilies/puke.gif

I agree, but ALL "reality" shows are scripted, edited, directed. The "real people" are cast for their drama rating, and the stories are planned, comments rehearsed, with more than one "take." Even the DIY "Yardcrashers" type of shows. Never forget that Hollywood is out to create emotional drama in order to make MONEY. I'm sure this aspect will also be a major target for the Tom Show, if it actually is made to happen.

Zinjifar
22nd July 2010, 12:45 AM
Maybe MTV could do a series like 'Made' or 'True Lives' or 'Real World' and call it 'Cleared' following a total raw meat kid joining Staff then the Sea Org and going through EPF etc. on to some stellar climb to Int Base or the CMO.

Oh, wait, they'd have problems finding real life Raw Meat, since the only people still getting sucked in are 2nd Generation at *least*.

And, they might get in trouble...

Zinj

degraded being
22nd July 2010, 01:00 AM
Maybe MTV could do a series like 'Made' or 'True Lives' or 'Real World' and call it 'Cleared' following a total raw meat kid joining Staff then the Sea Org and going through EPF etc. on to some stellar climb to Int Base or the CMO.

Oh, wait, they'd have problems finding real life Raw Meat, since the only people still getting sucked in are 2nd Generation at *least*.

And, they might get in trouble...

Zinj

I like the idea. I'm thinking along the lines of "The apprentice".
Near the end of each show, they could have them all lined up to assess progress. They say:
"Congratulations culties, you have made good progress this week. Unfortunately, only six of you can go onto the next level on the bridge to stellar spriritual gains on the path to OT. Those whose names I do *not* call out must immediately go back to berthing, pack your one remaining piece of property (your toothbrush) and immediately report to the RPF."

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
22nd July 2010, 01:13 AM
I like the idea. I'm thinking along the lines of "The apprentice".
Near the end of each show, they could have them all lined up to assess progress. They say:
"Congratulations culties, you have made good progress this week. Unfortunately, only six of you can go onto the next level on the bridge to stellar spriritual gains on the path to OT. Those whose names I do *not* call out must immediately go back to berthing, pack your one remaining piece of property (your toothbrush) and immediately report to the RPF."

Rather than reporting to RPF, they will just have to keep pulling out a credit card to take the course over until they end up in the top six.

Alanzo
22nd July 2010, 01:15 AM
I like the idea. I'm thinking along the lines of "The apprentice".
Near the end of each show, they could have them all lined up to assess progress. They say:
"Congratulations culties, you have made good progress this week. Unfortunately, only six of you can go onto the next level on the bridge to stellar spriritual gains on the path to OT. Those whose names I do *not* call out must immediately go back to berthing, pack your one remaining piece of property (your toothbrush) and immediately report to the RPF."

Then there's a spin-off

"Cleared - RPF Holiday"

This spin-off dramatizes how Sea Org staff receive rest and relaxation from the stresses of the grueling Sea Org schedule. Prominent feature in Season 1, Tom Cruise visits Int Base and all RPFers are given the R-Factor not to look at him or talk to him in any way.

As some RPFers jog silently to their next shit-hole cleanup, never originating communication to anyone, we see DM in the distance, his bathrobe half open with shaving cream on his face, screaming at a grey haired old man and beating him to the ground.

Costumes and set design a-la "Starship Troopers", but no co-ed showering.

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
22nd July 2010, 01:21 AM
Then there's a spin-off

"Cleared - RPF Holiday"

This spin-off dramatizes how Sea Org staff receive rest and relaxation from the stresses of the grueling Sea Org schedule. Prominent feature in Season 1, Tom Cruise visits Int Base and all RPFers are given the R-Factor not to look at him or talk to him in any way.

As some RPFers jog silently to their next shit-hole cleanup, never originating communication to anyone, we see DM in the distance, his bathrobe half open with shaving cream on his face, screaming at a grey haired old man and beating him to the ground.

Costumes and set design a-la "Starship Troopers", but no co-ed showering.

Waterboarding For ElRon Season Two

This season will will have the Evil Marcabian Psychs brainwash our contestants by smashing super cooled glass plates in their faces, after they do Xenu's Volcanic Fire Walk.

Mark A. Baker
22nd July 2010, 01:28 AM
Costumes and set design a-la "Starship Troopers", but no co-ed showering.

That's one of Heinlein's. They should crib from Battlefield Earth.


Mark A. Baker

Zinjifar
22nd July 2010, 01:38 AM
That's one of Heinlein's. They should crib from Battlefield Earth.


Mark A. Baker

Dreadlocks and snot tubes are probably not going to make a comeback.

Zinj

Alanzo
22nd July 2010, 01:40 AM
Dreadlocks and snot tubes are probably not going to make a comeback.

Zinj

Gargantuan codpieces might take-off, however.

Zinjifar
22nd July 2010, 01:53 AM
Gargantuan codpieces might take-off, however.

Eldridge Cleaver already went there with his 'Cleavers'.

http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/camp/eldridge_cleaver_pants_3.jpg

Zinj

pollywannacracker
22nd July 2010, 01:59 AM
I want to watch out of curiosity because I think it will label him as cheesy and be the end of his real career. On the other hand I can't stand TC and don't want to help his show by watching. Hhhhmmm.... what to do.

You don't have to watch the show. You can get the scoop on the internet with hilights posted.

Makes me think that he knows his career is in jeopardy and is sinking his teeth into new ideas to jump-start it again. Afterall, he is changing his operatingi basis, is he not?

-PWC

Kathy (ImOut)
22nd July 2010, 05:45 AM
That's very surprising -- I had the impression that Tom and Katie were very private people. I wonder whose idea this was, I'd bet it wasn't Tom's.

Kirstie Alley is doing one too. . . . I wonder if this is a new Scientology tactic to establish ARC or something.

No, it's a new way of making money so they can turn it over to the CofS. Kirstie hasn't done a movie in how long???? Per another post around here, Tom's latest movie isn't doing well.

For people to watch a Reality show about either one, is just the cost they are already paying for their cable. And if they can get some good sponsors/advertising, they can rake in the bucks.

I don't see how Tom thinks they are "normal". They let Suri rule the roost from what he said on Oprah months ago. That's only normal, from what I seen, in heavily psych influenced homes. And those Scn's that forgot LRH's words - Adults have rights too. Also that other quote - Make the environment more threatening than the bank (or some such).

I think they're a far cry from "normal".

Tiger Lily
22nd July 2010, 03:35 PM
No, it's a new way of making money so they can turn it over to the CofS. Kirstie hasn't done a movie in how long???? Per another post around here, Tom's latest movie isn't doing well.

For people to watch a Reality show about either one, is just the cost they are already paying for their cable. And if they can get some good sponsors/advertising, they can rake in the bucks.

I don't see how Tom thinks they are "normal". They let Suri rule the roost from what he said on Oprah months ago. That's only normal, from what I seen, in heavily psych influenced homes. And those Scn's that forgot LRH's words - Adults have rights too. Also that other quote - Make the environment more threatening than the bank (or some such).

I think they're a far cry from "normal".

I really hope I don't stoop to watching it. I was in Scientology when my kids were little and it was such a struggle because you weren't supposed to do anything to "suppress" their self-determinism -- you were supposed to let all their actions be self-determined and weren't supposed to make them share, or apologize. No wonder Suri rules the roost.

I wonder if it's a recruiting technique. The Scientology ego is so huge -- they think they are a shining example of theta, and once people see their "household without insanity" they will be converted. Kirstie said the same thing on the Today show interview I saw, that her family was happy and normal and she wanted the world to see how good a family could be instead of the dysfunctional ones usually on reality shows.

I'm afraid they don't realize just how weird Scientology is. . . because it's "normal" for them. This should be interesting.

olska
22nd July 2010, 04:30 PM
I really hope I don't stoop to watching it. I was in Scientology when my kids were little and it was such a struggle because you weren't supposed to do anything to "suppress" their self-determinism -- you were supposed to let all their actions be self-determined and weren't supposed to make them share, or apologize.

This is somewhat off the topic, but ...

There's a difference between allowing and encouraging your children to be "self determined" and just letting them run wild without guidance.

The "sharing" thing seems to always come up with little kids, and I happen to agree that they shouldn't be forced to share their possessions. I handled it this way:

when my son was having friends over, I asked him to put away any toys he didn't want to share, so as not to create a situation and to keep out the ones he didn't mind sharing. There were only a very few of his things that, when asked, he didn't want to share with others. Not a problem to put these up in the closet until the visit was over.

When he went to visit where there would be other children, I had him pick something he wouldn't mind sharing to take along, so that if the other kids didn't want to share, he would have something of his own. Usually his willingness to share what he brought made for a fun party, yet the host child wasn't forced to share things he/she didn't want to.

The key was that HE PICKED (self-determined) what to put away, what to share, and that these choices were made IN ADVANCE because of my foresight and planning (parental guidance).

Most children wouldn't have the foresight to figure this out for themselves; it's the parent's responsiblity to model such problem-solving skills for them.

IMMORTAL
22nd July 2010, 04:42 PM
This is somewhat off the topic, but ...

There's a difference between allowing and encouraging your children to be "self determined" and just letting them run wild without guidance.

The "sharing" thing seems to always come up with little kids, and I happen to agree that they shouldn't be forced to share their possessions. I handled it this way:

when my son was having friends over, I asked him to put away any toys he didn't want to share, so as not to create a situation and to keep out the ones he didn't mind sharing. There were only a very few of his things that, when asked, he didn't want to share with others. Not a problem to put these up in the closet until the visit was over.

When he went to visit where there would be other children, I had him pick something he wouldn't mind sharing to take along, so that if the other kids didn't want to share, he would have something of his own. Usually his willingness to share what he brought made for a fun party, yet the host child wasn't forced to share things he/she didn't want to.

The key was that HE PICKED (self-determined) what to put away, what to share, and that these choices were made IN ADVANCE because of my foresight and planning (parental guidance).

Most children wouldn't have the foresight to figure this out for themselves; it's the parent's responsiblity to model such problem-solving skills for them.

I like your solution to that problem. :yes:

Tiger Lily
22nd July 2010, 04:54 PM
This is somewhat off the topic, but ...

There's a difference between allowing and encouraging your children to be "self determined" and just letting them run wild without guidance.

The "sharing" thing seems to always come up with little kids, and I happen to agree that they shouldn't be forced to share their possessions. I handled it this way:

when my son was having friends over, I asked him to put away any toys he didn't want to share, so as not to create a situation and to keep out the ones he didn't mind sharing. There were only a very few of his things that, when asked, he didn't want to share with others. Not a problem to put these up in the closet until the visit was over.

When he went to visit where there would be other children, I had him pick something he wouldn't mind sharing to take along, so that if the other kids didn't want to share, he would have something of his own. Usually his willingness to share what he brought made for a fun party, yet the host child wasn't forced to share things he/she didn't want to.

The key was that HE PICKED (self-determined) what to put away, what to share, and that these choices were made IN ADVANCE because of my foresight and planning (parental guidance).

Most children wouldn't have the foresight to figure this out for themselves; it's the parent's responsiblity to model such problem-solving skills for them.

That makes a lot of sense. Actually that is how I handled it too. . . thanks to Ruth Minshull's book. I was just responding to the comment that Suri apparently rules the roost. It made me think of the struggles I had trying to discipline my kids without "squashing their self determinism", and how I think it caused me to be a little too lenient. But I guess very soon everyone will see how Tom and Katie really handle it.

TR'SIN
22nd July 2010, 11:31 PM
I don't know - it seems that labeling Tom Cruise "THIS" - or - "THAT" doesn't serve much purpose.

I am not that curious about his movements nor about his involvement with Scn or DM. He has no influence on me or mine.

I guess its part of the game of bloggers and others on this board.

Does demeaning and degrading Tom Cruise really have anything to do with Scientology today?

Of course the board allows all things to be communicated so it seems that those who wish to "discuss" the POSSIBLE affairs of Tom Cruise a voice to do so. Have a ball.

Tiger Lily
23rd July 2010, 01:48 AM
I don't know - it seems that labeling Tom Cruise "THIS" - or - "THAT" doesn't serve much purpose.

I am not that curious about his movements nor about his involvement with Scn or DM. He has no influence on me or mine.

I guess its part of the game of bloggers and others on this board.

Does demeaning and degrading Tom Cruise really have anything to do with Scientology today?

Of course the board allows all things to be communicated so it seems that those who wish to "discuss" the POSSIBLE affairs of Tom Cruise a voice to do so. Have a ball.

You seem interested enough to read this thread and even to post on it. Maybe it isn't the highest level thing to speculate about someone's life, but I think when a celebrity decides to do a reality show they are inviting scrutiny -- that's what's going to get people to watch it.

Here's what I think is significant about it: In the past Tom has always wanted to keep his personal life private, now suddenly he wants to display it for everyone *to show people how normal they are* . . . There has to be some reason for that change of heart. . . makes me wonder if it's a desperate need for money, or if he's "helping" to disseminate Scientology by getting it accepted by the mainstream; trying to get rid of that "brainwashing" image Scientology has. I actually think it's relevant . . .especially given the fact that Kirstie Alley is doing it too. . . . you can be sure that the reality show will give a very squeaky clean, inaccurate and incomplete perspective on what it's like to be a Scientologist; it could be very misleading to people.

(for example, my son came home all excited about Scientology because some radio talk show was talking about how happy Will Smith and his family are, and wondering if it was the Scientology . . . whether you like it or not people ARE influenced by the image portrayed by celebs).

We have people watching all the dissemination campaigns; the events, the grand openings, the emails, the front groups, the TV commercials, the Craigslist ads . . . why not watch for such things from ScienoCelebs.

Celebrities are considered to be valuable dissemination tools by the CofS


As founder L. Ron Hubbard put it:

"Celebrities are very Special people and have a very distinct line of dissemination. They have comm[unication] lines that others do not have and many medias [sic] to get their dissemination through" (Flag Order 3323, 9 May 1973)[6]

I'm not putting it past them to use TC and KA as dissemination tools by putting them in reality shows to develop a "comm line" to the masses. Not at all. I think it's worth keeping an eye on.

KissMyStats
23rd July 2010, 04:08 AM
Yeah! I luv luv luv Gary Busey!

If Tommy boy would only embrace his natural crazy and let it out more, for all the world to see, as Gary does, then well ... golly gee whiz! I might even be inspired to watch such a show!

Let's have Suri throwing tantrums until she gets to wear whatever she wants! Let's see Kate rolling her eyes and marking the days off the calendar until her marriage contract is fulfilled! Let's see TC micro-managing every aspect of life he touches everywhere, and doing the old cut-the-neck gesture when some lowly peon on a set or working in his household has the nerve to look at him! Let's see him posing for calendar art and suggestive clothing ads and then beating a desk with fists in time to the chant, "I'm not gay! I'm not gay! I'm not gay!" Let's see TC and DM in boys-on-bikes moonlight speed chases around the desert, ending with self-congratulatory boys-on-boys giggle-and-hoot sessions up there on the mesa, all alone, under the moonlight...

Damn, somebody help me! I should write scripts for this show!

I can't stop laughing at your post Olska ! Please, Please write a script ! :roflmao: