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ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
7th July 2011, 03:16 AM
http://www.isopix.be/temp/preview/ISOPIX_20321676-001.JPG

This may get interesting, if it's true.

Mick Wenlock
7th July 2011, 03:29 AM
sorry - please leave the Travoltas and their children alone, this just makes me queasy. This is not a subject they should be facing harassment about.

Mark A. Baker
7th July 2011, 03:59 AM
sorry - please leave the Travoltas and their children alone, this just makes me queasy. This is not a subject they should be facing harassment about.

I agree. It's sick. :ohmy:


Mark A. Baker

Type4_PTS
7th July 2011, 04:46 AM
This is not a subject they should be facing harassment about.

I agree with this.

But I do believe that Travolta should be held accountable for his role in expanding a criminal cult in Ocala, FL (and elsewhere). :grouch:
http://www.ocala.com/article/20110530/ARTICLES/110539996

FoTi
7th July 2011, 05:23 AM
I agree. It's sick. :ohmy:


Mark A. Baker

I don't see anything.....what are you guys looking at? Is there a link or something to what's being referred to?

Phoenix Rising
7th July 2011, 09:49 AM
I don't see anything.....what are you guys looking at? Is there a link or something to what's being referred to?

Same.... I don't get it... is there something I'm missing here???

I feel so sorry for John & Kelly - they are so totally brainwashed..... I do so hope they wake up soon, shame because they are both good actor's....

Mick Wenlock
7th July 2011, 10:53 AM
there was a link to a front page tabloid article in the OP about the Travoltas. It had nothing to do with their Scientology involvement.

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
7th July 2011, 12:21 PM
sorry - please leave the Travoltas and their children alone, this just makes me queasy. This is not a subject they should be facing harassment about.

Yeah lets all sit back and watch another innocent child born with autism go untreated and end up dead, because his parents belong to a batshit crazy cult who's con man founders believes autism can only be cured through his quackery. If this thread makes you queasy, I'm sure the Travola's batshit crazy cult can help you with that too.

Mick Wenlock
7th July 2011, 02:14 PM
Yeah lets all sit back and watch another innocent child born with autism go untreated and end up dead, because his parents belong to a batshit crazy cult who's con man founders believes autism can only be cured through his quackery. If this thread makes you queasy, I'm sure the Travola's batshit crazy cult can help you with that too.
yah I am sure it thinks it can

But as you seem to think that reposting crap from tabloids speculating on autistic children is something this board is all about - then it would make sense that you could come up with dumb rejoinders like the one you just did. IN your case, obviously, ignorance really is bliss.

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
7th July 2011, 02:23 PM
yah I am sure it thinks it can

But as you seem to think that reposting crap from tabloids speculating on autistic children is something this board is all about - then it would make sense that you could come up with dumb rejoinders like the one you just did. IN your case, obviously, ignorance really is bliss.

Mick, help me try and understand something, what gave you the idea that I care in the slightest what you think, what caused you to think this?

thefatman
7th July 2011, 02:38 PM
sorry - please leave the Travoltas and their children alone, this just makes me queasy. This is not a subject they should be facing harassment about.

As someone who has gone through a similar kind of suffering to that of the Travoltas (albeit siblings and not as a parent) I think it is a fair thing to do to question what happened.

Travolta denied that his child had a medical condition purely on the basis that he follows the guidelines of a raving lunatic who thought that all psychiatric conditions were a lie thought up by the Marcab Confederacy to control us. For me, this is tantamount to child abuse. Add to this that he didn't have a proper carer, instead his wedding photographer (who I'm fairly sure was/is his gay lover) was designated as a carer. Jett was taken of his anti-seizure medication because of the "evil conspiracy by big pharma."

I'm sorry, but the media has every right to point out the immense failure of both the Travoltas and Scientology to take adequate care of his child. It sickens me that people can go "they went through something bad, don't criticise them at all it's just mean" - their child died due to their own neglect for fucks sake, there's no way around that. Someone has to take responsibility for that.

ClamSource
7th July 2011, 02:44 PM
Official docs show Travolta admitting his son had autism:
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/glosslip-john-admits-jett-had-autism.41292/

I don't see any reason why Travolta gets any special dispensation. His beliefs are directly responsible for this tragedy.

He allows his celebrity to be used to recruit for the cult, and so is complicit in many more human tragedy stories than just his personal experience.

Type4_PTS
8th July 2011, 03:42 AM
Jett was taken of his anti-seizure medication because of the "evil conspiracy by big pharma."



Official docs show Travolta admitting his son had autism:


The story that was linked to in the OP was not about Jett. Rather, the Enquirer was alleging that the Travolta's new baby is autistic.

My own personal opinion is that this was appropriately nominated as the "Meanest Story" by ItsNewsToThem.com

http://itsnews2them.blogspot.com/2011/07/meanest-story-nominee-travolta-baby.html





He allows his celebrity to be used to recruit for the cult, and so is complicit in many more human tragedy stories than just his personal experience.

I would agree with you here. However, are there not much better ways to deal with this other than forwarding these allegations from this tabloid magazine which isn't a credible source?

I told you I was trouble
8th July 2011, 06:46 AM
The story that was linked to in the OP was not about Jett. Rather, the Enquirer was alleging that the Travolta's new baby is autistic.

My own personal opinion is that this was appropriately nominated as the "Meanest Story" by ItsNewsToThem.com



I agree with you Type4 ... but I also think that JT and his wife were pretty mean themselves when they named the little one Benjamin, when the surname is Travolta, I guess they won't be calling him by his initials too often then.



:nervous:

Mick Wenlock
8th July 2011, 09:16 PM
Mick, help me try and understand something, what gave you the idea that I care in the slightest what you think, what caused you to think this?


Oh well that would explain why you post on public message boards. Next time, presuming you wish to keep your drivel private, I would suggest going to your local men's urinals and spray painting this crap on the walls there.

Mick Wenlock
8th July 2011, 09:34 PM
As someone who has gone through a similar kind of suffering to that of the Travoltas (albeit siblings and not as a parent) I think it is a fair thing to do to question what happened.

Travolta denied that his child had a medical condition purely on the basis that he follows the guidelines of a raving lunatic who thought that all psychiatric conditions were a lie thought up by the Marcab Confederacy to control us. For me, this is tantamount to child abuse. Add to this that he didn't have a proper carer, instead his wedding photographer (who I'm fairly sure was/is his gay lover) was designated as a carer. Jett was taken of his anti-seizure medication because of the "evil conspiracy by big pharma."

I'm sorry, but the media has every right to point out the immense failure of both the Travoltas and Scientology to take adequate care of his child. It sickens me that people can go "they went through something bad, don't criticise them at all it's just mean" - their child died due to their own neglect for fucks sake, there's no way around that. Someone has to take responsibility for that.


maybe you wanna go read the referenced article? It isn't about Jett.

IN fact if you bothered to check on here you would have found postings from me excoriating Travolta for the whole Jett tragedy.

Before you jump in to things you may want to find out what they are actually concerning.

Type4_PTS
8th July 2011, 09:34 PM
I guess they won't be calling him by his initials too often then.



:nervous:

I hadn't thought of that. :no:


:hmm:

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
8th July 2011, 10:42 PM
Oh well that would explain why you post on public message boards. Next time, presuming you wish to keep your drivel private, I would suggest going to your local men's urinals and spray painting this crap on the walls there.

Poor Little Mick, having another one of his hourly emotional meltdowns

smartone
8th July 2011, 11:00 PM
Oh well that would explain why you post on public message boards. Next time, presuming you wish to keep your drivel private, I would suggest going to your local men's urinals and spray painting this crap on the walls there.



:ohmy: :runaway:

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
8th July 2011, 11:12 PM
:ohmy: :runaway:

I wouldn't worry about it, the little fella will be okay after he has himself a good cry, and then he'll find something else to have an emotional breakout over.

thetanic
8th July 2011, 11:16 PM
I don't see any reason why Travolta gets any special dispensation. His beliefs are directly responsible for this tragedy.

You have zero proof that Jett would not have died had he been treated. People can and do die of seizure disorders despite being medicated to prevent same.

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
8th July 2011, 11:21 PM
You have zero proof that Jett would not have died had he been treated. People can and do die of seizure disorders despite being medicated to prevent same.

The same can be said for every single form of medical treatment currently available. Of course no one can prove that a treatment could have saved a person's life, but ignoring a condition because some batshit crazy conman/cult leader told you to doesn't even give you a chance to find out if it would have.

Feral
8th July 2011, 11:22 PM
Yeah lets all sit back and watch another innocent child born with autism go untreated and end up dead, because his parents belong to a batshit crazy cult who's con man founders believes autism can only be cured through his quackery. If this thread makes you queasy, I'm sure the Travola's batshit crazy cult can help you with that too.

Do you mean that there's an effective treatment for autism? Please provide links while I go tell my girl that we've found the solution! BTW Jett wasn't killed by his autism as much as his epilepsy.

I don't know why JT denied that Jett had autism, I don't think it came directly from the cults teachings as I was never guided to do the same and I was on the same level as he with a kid also afflicted, though it may have come indirectly from the infallibility of the OT bullshit.

In support of your comments, it is sadly true the the Scilons do believe they have the answers to *every condition* that could set itself against man or beast, it is a fatal misconception as time has proven. I recalll my wife was trying to tell Kelly that we were using a method of teaching our daughter to read that some, including Richard Reisse called implanting. We ignored them.

Still it appears that the reasons for JT's denial seem a tad more personal.

Very complicated area to navigate.

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
8th July 2011, 11:32 PM
Do you mean that there's an effective treatment for autism? Please provide links while I go tell my girl that we've found the solution! BTW Jett wasn't killed by his autism as much as his epilepsy.

I don't know why JT denied that Jett had autism, I don't think it came directly from the cults teachings as I was never guided to do the same and I was on the same level as he with a kid also afflicted, though it may have come indirectly from the infallibility of the OT bullshit.

In support of your comments, it is sadly true the the Scilons do believe they have the answers to *every condition* that could set itself against man or beast, it is a fatal misconception as time has proven. I recalll my wife was trying to tell Kelly that we were using a method of teaching our daughter to read that some, including Richard Reisse called implanting. We ignored them.

Still it appears that the reasons for JT's denial seem a tad more personal.

Very complicated area to navigate.

If your daughter is having seizures and is autistic, she should see a specialist, there are various treatments available which may help.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2431/11/37/abstract

Smilla
8th July 2011, 11:40 PM
John Travolta: One minute he's got hair. A minute later he's bald. You look away and look back, and then he's got hair again.

Something should be done about it.

Feral
9th July 2011, 01:27 AM
If your daughter is having seizures and is autistic, she should see a specialist, there are various treatments available which may help.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2431/11/37/abstract

Oh good, an expert.

SchwimmelPuckel
9th July 2011, 01:47 AM
Hmm.. I've had a mind to butt in on this thread.. I didn't really have to coz' Mick said 'almost' what I wanted to.

And like Feral mentions.. We, humankind or our medical field, do NOT know what to do about autism, let alone what it IS exactly.. Well, Scientology sure as hell don't know either..

I'd feel very sad for John and Kelly if their little new son turns out to be autistic.. Or anything wrong with him..

And as I recall, L.Ron Hubbard and Scientology teaches that a being is responsible for his own condition.. Ie. If JT's little son is autistic, it's something he 'pulled in' because he's out ethics.. Per the same doctrine JT and KP are themselves out ethics, as evidenced by them pulling this PR flap in that will reflect badly on The Church Of Scientology because of JT & KP's very public position.

Hrrmpf.. I can't fucking STAND myself for actually believing in that shit once!

:melodramatic:

theJB
9th July 2011, 01:58 AM
Mick, help me try and understand something, what gave you the idea that I care in the slightest what you think, what caused you to think this?
OK, children. stop your bickering. :eyeroll:

degraded being
9th July 2011, 02:27 AM
Do you mean that there's an effective treatment for autism? Please provide links while I go tell my girl that we've found the solution! BTW Jett wasn't killed by his autism as much as his epilepsy.

I don't know why JT denied that Jett had autism, I don't think it came directly from the cults teachings as I was never guided to do the same and I was on the same level as he with a kid also afflicted, though it may have come indirectly from the infallibility of the OT bullshit.

In support of your comments, it is sadly true the the Scilons do believe they have the answers to *every condition* that could set itself against man or beast, it is a fatal misconception as time has proven. I recalll my wife was trying to tell Kelly that we were using a method of teaching our daughter to read that some, including Richard Reisse called implanting. We ignored them.

Still it appears that the reasons for JT's denial seem a tad more personal.

Very complicated area to navigate.

Being high profile as movie stars may have played into it. The pressure to be, and appear to be, beyond the human condition(s), that all OTs must feel to some extent, would be extremely intensified as a movie-star OT who was used as a promotion prop. I can imagine conversations where the autistic son would be "hovering in the background" and The Travoltas, having to deal with that. Some of that may have been used quite overtly by OSA. Also, John Travolta takes nearly all the flak on the autistic son business. Kelly P seems to get a bit of a free ride on it, when some reports have suggested she had a very controlling role in the travoltas-as-OSA-run-PR-puppets.

Mick Wenlock
9th July 2011, 02:47 AM
If your daughter is having seizures and is autistic, she should see a specialist, there are various treatments available which may help.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2431/11/37/abstract

OK I am going to try to be conciliatory here . Do you seriously think that Kev and his wife have not explored, worked at and tried everything they can possibly try? Do you have any idea how supercilious you sound with the off hand comment? I am sure you mean well but you really don't come across very well.

My wife and have dealt with our son's condition for 32 years - when we were in the SO every couple of months there would be yet one more suggestion from another well meaning "expert". we would nod politely and thank them for their concern and hide the annoyance.

Now the medical profession consults us on the family impact of congenital rubella syndrome. we have delivered classes to post grad pediatricians on how to examine deaf blind.

So let me make very clear where I stand - unless you are the parent of a handicapped child then you have no idea what any of us goes through and the heartbreak and work that goes into dealing with it.

I criticized the travoltas for their lack of professional care and supervision for their son Jett because THAT was unforgiveable.

Speculation in tabloids about their toddler is just grotesque. Criticze the adults for their promotion of scientology - I will happily join in. But whatever they decide for their son's care is their decision and they will pay the price involved.

Emma
9th July 2011, 02:54 AM
OK I am going to try to be conciliatory here . Do you seriously think that Kev and his wife have not explored, worked at and tried everything they can possibly try? Do you have any idea how supercilious you sound with the off hand comment? I am sure you mean well but you really don't come across very well.

My wife and have dealt with our son's condition for 32 years - when we were in the SO every couple of months there would be yet one more suggestion from another well meaning "expert". we would nod politely and thank them for their concern and hide the annoyance.

Now the medical profession consults us on the family impact of congenital rubella syndrome. we have delivered classes to post grad pediatricians on how to examine deaf blind.

So let me make very clear where I stand - unless you are the parent of a handicapped child then you have no idea what any of us goes through and the heartbreak and work that goes into dealing with it.

I criticized the travoltas for their lack of professional care and supervision for their son Jett because THAT was unforgiveable.

Speculation in tabloids about their toddler is just grotesque. Criticze the adults for their promotion of scientology - I will happily join in. But whatever they decide for their son's care is their decision and they will pay the price involved.

Thank you Mick:hug:

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
9th July 2011, 09:07 AM
OK I am going to try to be conciliatory here . Do you seriously think that Kev and his wife have not explored, worked at and tried everything they can possibly try? Do you have any idea how supercilious you sound with the off hand comment? I am sure you mean well but you really don't come across very well.

My wife and have dealt with our son's condition for 32 years - when we were in the SO every couple of months there would be yet one more suggestion from another well meaning "expert". we would nod politely and thank them for their concern and hide the annoyance.

Now the medical profession consults us on the family impact of congenital rubella syndrome. we have delivered classes to post grad pediatricians on how to examine deaf blind.

So let me make very clear where I stand - unless you are the parent of a handicapped child then you have no idea what any of us goes through and the heartbreak and work that goes into dealing with it.

I criticized the travoltas for their lack of professional care and supervision for their son Jett because THAT was unforgiveable.

Speculation in tabloids about their toddler is just grotesque. Criticze the adults for their promotion of scientology - I will happily join in. But whatever they decide for their son's care is their decision and they will pay the price involved.

I can't say I am the parent of a handicap child because I'm not, but my parents were, my brother was and he died of complications resulting from his illness as a child, I'm not interested in getting into what they went through on a message board, nor am I going to pretend I have any idea what you have and continue to go through, because this thread is not about me and it's not about you, it's a thread about a Scientology celebrity couple who are rumored in a tabloid to have a child which may be autistic. If this rumor turns out to be true I'm interested to see if they with knowledge their child's illness or pretend it's something else to pacify the conman's cult they belong to. If you find that to be grotesque, then you are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to be curious to see if these Scientology celebrities will act like responsible adults, or place the silly ass role playing game they participate in above their child, if the rumor indeed turns out to be true.