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Axiom142
21st October 2011, 12:39 PM
From the local paper: http://www.thisissussex.co.uk/John-Travolta-turned-away-KFC/story-13608984-detail/story.html


HOLLYWOOD superstar John Travolta appears to have been inadvertently turned away from KFC in East Grinstead Ė after apparently trying to book a table at the restaurant.

Staff working at the fast food chain's London Road branch received what they thought was a prank call requesting a table in his name on Friday.

The caller was told the restaurant did not take bookings for anyone and that Mr Travolta would have to join the back of the queue like everyone else.

But it later emerged the Saturday Night Fever and Grease star was in fact in East Grinstead at the weekend, when he attended the Saint Hill gala charity event.

A KFC spokesman said: "In hindsight, of course, we would have reserved a table for him.

"It's not every day you get a Hollywood star eating in your restaurant. I have heard he pops into East Grinstead every year." The owner of the East Grinstead branch originally backed his employee's decision to deny the unexpected request and there was no sign of Mr Travolta in the town on Friday.

But he later discovered through a friend that Top Gun star Tom Cruise was also at the event at the Church of Scientology over the weekend.

The KFC worker who took the call did not wish to be named, but said: "To me, customers are customers, no matter who they are. It doesn't make a difference (if someone is famous).

"The lady who called didn't give me her name, she just said it will be for a Mr Travolta.

"That threw me a little bit. I thought it might be a load of nonsense, but she seemed pretty serious."

A guest who attended the charity concert told the Courier & Observer: "John Travolta was at the dinner on Saturday night, but not at the concert on Sunday.

"He's very sociable, but because it was a formal dinner, he was given his space."


Axiom142

xseaorguk
21st October 2011, 12:53 PM
don't forget that Cruise stated quite clearly in his famous video that he only uses KSW and KFC tech.
I heard there was a car accident in East Grinstead and he also applied the KFC tech, as they were the only ones who could help.:yes:
a bit like:
"feel my finger licking finger"
"thank you":dancer:

SweetnessandLight
21st October 2011, 07:46 PM
:hysterical:

namaste
21st October 2011, 08:20 PM
Did he ask to speak to a manager about it or was he too chicken?

Mystic
21st October 2011, 08:26 PM
Who or what is a "Travolta"?

Dulloldfart
21st October 2011, 10:14 PM
Huh? You can book tables at KFC? What is the world coming to?

Paul

EDIT. Oh. I see the article says they don't. Never mind.

Slappy
21st October 2011, 10:46 PM
was watching a Youtube clip of Travolta on Letterman earlier.

what a seriously fuckin nice guy.

It pained me to watch. He speaks of 'his church' helping Haiti etc.
Totally fucking clueless of the soul-less parasite on his back, feeding off his credibility and great nature.

degraded being
22nd October 2011, 01:49 AM
He's such a nice guy..........
but it's becoming more and more obvious, quite dim.

JT gives me flashbacks to Tim-Nice-But-DIM.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tekXxB6dosQ&feature=related

Purple Rain
22nd October 2011, 02:03 AM
He's such a nice guy..........
but it's becoming more and more obvious, quite dim.

JT gives me flashbacks to Tim-Nice-But-DIM.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tekXxB6dosQ&feature=related

There's a lot more to be said for being nice than being smart.

degraded being
22nd October 2011, 02:30 AM
There's a lot more to be said for being nice than being smart.

JT's string pullers are, I'm sure, well aware of the value of "nice". It is not a matter
of nice vs smart.

Being nice while being an international promoter/image tool for the scientology cult doesn't have much to be said for it. If JT is smart then he should be aware of what he's promoting. If he is aware of it he's a horrible person. If he isn't aware of it he is dim. The longer he goes on doing it the nastier, or the dimmer he looks.

He can only get a certain amount of mileage out of being MR Nice, while promoting the scientology cult, IMO.

Purple Rain
22nd October 2011, 02:46 AM
JT's string pullers are, I'm sure, well aware of the value of "nice". It is not a matter
of nice vs smart.

Being nice while being an international promoter/image tool for the scientology cult doesn't have much to be said for it. If JT is smart then he should be aware of what he's promoting. If he is aware of it he's a horrible person. If he isn't aware of it he is dim. The longer he goes on doing it the nastier, or the dimmer he looks.

He can only get a certain amount of mileage out of being MR Nice, while promoting the scientology cult, IMO.

Yes, that is certainly true.

There are many times I've wished I could ask them whether they know about some of the abuses, or that I could challenge them to use their acting ability to go 'undercover' and find out for themselves how Sea Org and staff members are really treated, as high-powered Scientology executives were rumoured to have done.

It's probably just a rumour but at my org we were told that various senior management "terminals" would sometimes turn up at an org out of uniform and unrecognised and pretend to be a new public. Then they would try to route onto staff or services and see how the org was run.

So I've always thought, "If only those celebrities could experience the treatment on staff for themselves they would see an entirely different side of Scientology." They are so protected from the real world as celebrities anyway, let alone Scientology celebrities.

It seems such a shame that it is so hard to expose them to the truth, although if people like Paul Haggis can figure it out I would hope some of the others will too.

I really hope that John Travolta and Kelly Preston can escape from the brainwashing. I felt so bad for them losing their son, and even all the heartbreak they went through as parents of a child with a disability. I think that he genuinely wants to help the people of Haiti, but he is just so misguided.

degraded being
22nd October 2011, 04:16 AM
Yes, that is certainly true.

There are many times I've wished I could ask them whether they know about some of the abuses, or that I could challenge them to use their acting ability to go 'undercover' and find out for themselves how Sea Org and staff members are really treated, as high-powered Scientology executives were rumoured to have done.

It's probably just a rumour but at my org we were told that various senior management "terminals" would sometimes turn up at an org out of uniform and unrecognised and pretend to be a new public. Then they would try to route onto staff or services and see how the org was run.

So I've always thought, "If only those celebrities could experience the treatment on staff for themselves they would see an entirely different side of Scientology." They are so protected from the real world as celebrities anyway, let alone Scientology celebrities.

It seems such a shame that it is so hard to expose them to the truth, although if people like Paul Haggis can figure it out I would hope some of the others will too.

I really hope that John Travolta and Kelly Preston can escape from the brainwashing. I felt so bad for them losing their son, and even all the heartbreak they went through as parents of a child with a disability. I think that he genuinely wants to help the people of Haiti, but he is just so misguided.


The JT thing frustrates me a bit so I was moved to type....

In the last 3 years there has been a huge amount of publicy about the cult.
Prior to that, and at the beginning of anon, culties in general, and celebs could be kept ignorant. These days it would be much harder for them to be kept ignorant.
The "nobodies" (not intended as a put-down) at the bottom, who just go and do services and get on with their lives would not have too many reasons to break through their own bubble of ignorance, imposed by the cult but these days requires more and more active, repeat ACTIVE self censoring. They must have to grab the remote and switch channels when scientology is mentioned. They must have to take detours whenever "scientology" pops up when they are on the net. I am guessing they have to avoid casual converstaions about scientology anywhere and everywhere these days, because the public is much more armed with entheta. So little "dissem" opportunities must surely be avoided nowadays and not hoped for, as they were in the past. There is less "excuse" (not wanting to sound judgemental)
than their used to be for shutting down one's own simple questions, like "why is this happening? What are they saying about us?" And there are probably quite a few actually trying to answer those questions now.

The people who have mega thousands to spend have less "excuse" IMO. The financial outlay is much more, so it is more reckless to sacrifice awareness/knowledge for gratification. I expect more from the wealthy because I assume they have to value smartness, astuteness, business sense, as a way to accummulate wealth and so I expect them to more independent in their thinking. I seem to be wrong there.

Then there are the very rich and the celebs. The celebs entire lives are lived as public figures and so I expect they are really going to want to have "intelligence" on all the good and bad information that is out there about them. I can imagine a celeb being a committed Catholic and being known as such (though they would not pimp for their church as scientologists do), but such a person would I imagine
read the newspapers and watch TV reports about the sex abuse within the church. They would just want to know what's going on, and what's being said, true or not.
A question could be thrown at them some time in an interview - not to threaten them, but just to say "As a committed Catholic, what do you think of this?"

So that makes me wonder how scientology celebs could be shut down, and shut themselves down so much. And I don't think the COS just leaves them unprepared for the random "attack" (question) by a journalist or by people they bump into? That is unthinkable. So the COS OSA must surley be giving them a hand on what to say and what not to say. How specific do they get.? Surely they have to present the actual questions and accusations being made.

And the celebs who are more aware of themselves as a figure-in-society than any of us probably, and more sensitive about of what people might be saying about them and how that may affect future do no independent search? Out of all the lunatic things in the cult that is the most lunatic IMO.

They don't have to know that people are coerced to have abortions, and other such things by being in scientology IMO. But they do have to know that such things are claimed, by reading it on the internet. "I am brainwashed" or "I was brainwashed" doesn't cut it for me as an excuse for celebs for the reasons pointed out here.

The 'nice button' seems to work wonders for JT. When it is poked, JT as a cult pimp looks like something he can't really help. Poor JT, such a nice guy he can't really help it. TC is not nice in people's eyes so he gets harsher treatment, and he is not helpess, because he has told us he has the tech to handle evrything. Kirsty Alley, apart from being ridiculed for her weight, seems to be liked, but not in the soft teddy bear way JT is, and she tells people to 'fuck off" when she needs to so, she is not seen as being quite as helpess as JT.

I hope TC is more open about why he stays in the cult and promotes it. It's the tech to handle the whole world. I want him to use the tone scale as LRH intended and tell us with Tone 40 to fuck off. So everyone can see that he is not nice-and-helpless but nice-and-a-scientologist-promoting-the-cult

Purple Rain
22nd October 2011, 04:38 AM
The JT thing frustrates me a bit so I was moved to type....

In the last 3 years there has been a huge amount of publicy about the cult.
Prior to that, and at the beginning of anon, culties in general, and celebs could be kept ignorant. These days it would be much harder for them to be kept ignorant.
The "nobodies" (not intended as a put-down) at the bottom, who just go and do services and get on with their lives would not have too many reasons to break through their own bubble of ignorance, imposed by the cult but these days requires more and more active, repeat ACTIVE self censoring. They must have to grab the remote and switch channels when scientology is mentioned. They must have to take detours whenever "scientology" pops up when they are on the net. I am guessing they have to avoid casual converstaions about scientology anywhere and everywhere these days, because the public is much more armed with entheta. So little "dissem" opportunities must surely be avoided nowadays and not hoped for, as they were in the past. There is less "excuse" (not wanting to sound judgemental)
than their used to be for shutting down one's own simple questions, like "why is this happening? What are they saying about us?" And there are probably quite a few actually trying to answer those questions now.

The people who have mega thousands to spend have less "excuse" IMO. The financial outlay is much more, so it is more reckless to sacrifice awareness/knowledge for gratification. I expect more from the wealthy because I assume they have to value smartness, astuteness, business sense, as a way to accummulate wealth and so I expect them to more independent in their thinking. I seem to be wrong there.

Then there are the very rich and the celebs. The celebs entire lives are lived as public figures and so I expect they are really going to want to have "intelligence" on all the good and bad information that is out there about them. I can imagine a celeb being a committed Catholic and being known as such (though they would not pimp for their church as scientologists do), but such a person would I imagine
read the newspapers and watch TV reports about the sex abuse within the church. They would just want to know what's going on, and what's being said, true or not.
A question could be thrown at them some time in an interview - not to threaten them, but just to say "As a committed Catholic, what do you think of this?"

So that makes me wonder how scientology celebs could be shut down, and shut themselves down so much. And I don't think the COS just leaves them unprepared for the random "attack" (question) by a journalist or by people they bump into? That is unthinkable. So the COS OSA must surley be giving them a hand on what to say and what not to say. How specific do they get.? Surely they have to present the actual questions and accusations being made.

And the celebs who are more aware of themselves as a figure-in-society than any of us probably, and more sensitive about of what people might be saying about them and how that may affect future do no independent search? Out of all the lunatic things in the cult that is the most lunatic IMO.

They don't have to know that people are coerced to have abortions, and other such things by being in scientology IMO. But they do have to know that such things are claimed, by reading it on the internet. "I am brainwashed" or "I was brainwashed" doesn't cut it for me as an excuse for celebs for the reasons pointed out here.

The 'nice button' seems to work wonders for JT. When it is poked, JT as a cult pimp looks like something he can't really help. Poor JT, such a nice guy he can't really help it. TC is not nice in people's eyes so he gets harsher treatment, and he is not helpess, because he has told us he has the tech to handle evrything. Kirsty Alley, apart from being ridiculed for her weight, seems to be liked, but not in the soft teddy bear way JT is, and she tells people to 'fuck off" when she needs to so, she is not seen as being quite as helpess as JT.

I hope TC is more open about why he stays in the cult and promotes it. It's the tech to handle the whole world. I want him to use the tone scale as LRH intended and tell us with Tone 40 to fuck off. So everyone can see that he is not nice-and-helpless but nice-and-a-scientologist-promoting-the-cult

I'm not stupid. I do get the message. There are people I like on this board, so I'm not going away.

Being kind is far more important than being smart. I'm sorry you can't see that. You can take the Scientologist out of Scientology, but you obviously can't always do the reverse.

This board used to be a place I could come to for healing and encouragement, not spiteful mockery - no matter how plausibly deniable.

I will keep away from those who don't like me and hope that others will show me the same consideration. You can easily ignore what I have to say if my style of communication upsets or annoys you. Please do put me on your ignore list. I can't change who I am, but at least I know that I am not actively trying to hurt anybody.

degraded being
22nd October 2011, 05:59 AM
I'm not stupid. I do get the message. There are people I like on this board, so I'm not going away.

Being kind is far more important than being smart. I'm sorry you can't see that. You can take the Scientologist out of Scientology, but you obviously can't always do the reverse.

This board used to be a place I could come to for healing and encouragement, not spiteful mockery - no matter how plausibly deniable.

I will keep away from those who don't like me and hope that others will show me the same consideration. You can easily ignore what I have to say if my style of communication upsets or annoys you. Please do put me on your ignore list. I can't change who I am, but at least I know that I am not actively trying to hurt anybody.

I am genuinely surprised that I caused that reaction. I did not intend to offend you. I was not even challenging you. In fact, I thought that you gave me a friendly response to my last post, so I just felt like saying more. I have been trying to put some thoughts into words about JT and my perspective on his role as a scientology promoter and felt that I was finally able to put it into words. I thought that although my perspective is a bit different from yours, that we don't have very conflicting views. I could be wrong about that, but the main thing was that I felt I could express my own after not being able get my head around it, so if your view differs at least I have been able to work out how to express mine.

I think I had a different point of view to you on another thread recently, about Marty R I thnk. That is the only time I know of that I have not agreed with you, and I only remember that because it was recent and other people also seemed to have differences of opinion.But regardless of that, I like you -as far as it is possible to know someone online -. My last post was not mockery. It was "straight". I'm sorry if it appeared to be to be a personal attack. I was just trying to work out why I get frustrated about JT. I just want to repeat, I like you as far as I know you as an esmb poster.

namaste
22nd October 2011, 07:27 AM
I am genuinely surprised that I caused that reaction.
I am surprised as well. I've gone back over both posts and it still escapes me. I don't like to butt in to other peoples' business, nevertheless, I hope that the misunderstanding gets resolved.

Purple Rain
22nd October 2011, 08:46 AM
I am genuinely surprised that I caused that reaction. I did not intend to offend you. I was not even challenging you. In fact, I thought that you gave me a friendly response to my last post, so I just felt like saying more. I have been trying to put some thoughts into words about JT and my perspective on his role as a scientology promoter and felt that I was finally able to put it into words. I thought that although my perspective is a bit different from yours, that we don't have very conflicting views. I could be wrong about that, but the main thing was that I felt I could express my own after not being able get my head around it, so if your view differs at least I have been able to work out how to express mine.

I think I had a different point of view to you on another thread recently, about Marty R I thnk. That is the only time I know of that I have not agreed with you, and I only remember that because it was recent and other people also seemed to have differences of opinion.But regardless of that, I like you -as far as it is possible to know someone online -. My last post was not mockery. It was "straight". I'm sorry if it appeared to be to be a personal attack. I was just trying to work out why I get frustrated about JT. I just want to repeat, I like you as far as I know you as an esmb poster.

I'm really sorry. I thought you were making fun of me. I'm probably overly sensitive at the moment. I'm going through a really hard time. Please accept my apologies for misunderstanding. I'm really happy that's not the case, mostly because I always liked everybody here so much and looked up to you all. I guess since the Moscow thread I've felt shaken, and the grammar thread made it worse. So whatever happens it's nice to know that I was mistaken and you are not being mean, and that you are the type of person I originally thought.

degraded being
22nd October 2011, 10:13 AM
I'm really sorry. I thought you were making fun of me. I'm probably overly sensitive at the moment. I'm going through a really hard time. Please accept my apologies for misunderstanding. I'm really happy that's not the case, mostly because I always liked everybody here so much and looked up to you all. I guess since the Moscow thread I've felt shaken, and the grammar thread made it worse. So whatever happens it's nice to know that I was mistaken and you are not being mean, and that you are the type of person I originally thought.

Thanks Purple Rain, FWIW, I am sure you are well liked here, despite the polarised views on the Moscow thread. I can't speak for others but I am sure others felt strongly about their opinions and not (negatively) about you. Not to go on too much about it, but when I finished that last post I was actually quite grateful to you.
I have also been grateful to you for other things, for example when I wanted to check on the scientology/white house petition I made a habit of just going to your posts with the embedded url and clicking on it. I have misread/misunderstood countless posts myself, so no worries there. :)

Purple Rain
22nd October 2011, 10:58 PM
Thanks Purple Rain, FWIW, I am sure you are well liked here, despite the polarised views on the Moscow thread. I can't speak for others but I am sure others felt strongly about their opinions and not (negatively) about you. Not to go on too much about it, but when I finished that last post I was actually quite grateful to you.
I have also been grateful to you for other things, for example when I wanted to check on the scientology/white house petition I made a habit of just going to your posts with the embedded url and clicking on it. I have misread/misunderstood countless posts myself, so no worries there. :)

Thanks, degraded being. That is very big of you. My rejection issues seem to be evolving into some kind of paranoia. I think I am not well. Once again thank you so very much for your kind thoughts and understanding - they mean a lot to me right now. Take care and do good things.

Feral
23rd October 2011, 12:01 AM
On another note regarding JT; there's a lot I really like about him, always has been. I remember he was quoted in a Rolling Stone interview once saying he didn't feel that the management of the church deserved defending, IIRC that was just after the Mission Holders massacre. I bet they beat the shit out of him for that, ethics, cramming and a specialised training line up till he had the "right" cogntions.

If he was able to previously see the abuse he will surely again see it, seeing how it's only gotten worse. The only thing I know doubt is his willingness to stand up and say something. That takes courage from where he stands and I'm not sure if he has that kind of grit.

Smilla
23rd October 2011, 12:28 AM
Many millions in the bank, and Revolta spends his money on junk food?

Smilla
23rd October 2011, 12:32 AM
On another note regarding JT; there's a lot I really like about him, always has been. I remember he was quoted in a Rolling Stone interview once saying he didn't feel that the management of the church deserved defending, IIRC that was just after the Mission Holders massacre. I bet they beat the shit out of him for that, ethics, cramming and a specialised training line up till he had the "right" cogntions.

If he was able to previously see the abuse he will surely again see it, seeing how it's only gotten worse. The only thing I know doubt is his willingness to stand up and say something. That takes courage from where he stands and I'm not sure if he has that kind of grit.

I've had the feeling for years, that if Revolta *could* get out, he would. I don't think he's at all happy in the Cult.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/90/a0/3e/let-me-out.jpg

Slappy
23rd October 2011, 01:24 AM
the convo between Degraded Being and Purple Rain was humanity at its greatest.

the 'church' has never shown this - with their supposedly superior tech.

acknowledging the feelings of another, and the desire not to hurt, but to share thoughts. that's true compassion guys. glad you're both not letting the parasite suck and survive off your strength and good nature.

on sober hindsight - JT did audit the whole xenu incident - which is a true cross roads of either leaving the cult or submitting completely. I've no doubt he has a heart of gold, but I doubt every other decision he has made. I even question, although he is an awesome dad, if he is even made for a hetero relationship. For me such submissions must come from a profound denial of self. And I've seen the pics of man kissing man on plane.

the only celeb I've met and truly connected with was Nancy Cartwright. we had a conversation I just did not want to end. she wants so desperately for things to be confusion free. she's been shocked many times at the 'open-mindedness' of other scios around the cc.

I really feel for her. the future is not bright for scio.

Mark A. Baker
23rd October 2011, 01:40 AM
Many millions in the bank, and Revolta spends his money on junk food?

Revolta?

And as to junk food, it is the american diet. It is the logical outcome of u.s. 'leadership' in industrializing food production. Americans have become addicted to it.

We produce more food than anywhere else on the planet provided you can believe that chicken mcnuggets, cheetos, processed cheese, and coca cola qualify as foods. Even the 'whole foods' produced are, for the most part and with relatively rare exceptions, tainted as a result of the reliance on industrialized sources for our foods.


Mark A. Baker

Smilla
23rd October 2011, 02:21 AM
Revolta?

Just kidding with that one.

And as to junk food, it is the american diet. It is the logical outcome of u.s. 'leadership' in industrializing food production. Americans have become addicted to it.

I just don't know how anyone could eat that stuff. My eldest son tried it once and spat it out! I'd rather miss a meal or two than eat it.

We produce more food than anywhere else on the planet provided you can believe that chicken mcnuggets, cheetos, processed cheese, and coca cola qualify as foods. Even the 'whole foods' produced are, for the most part and with relatively rare exceptions, tainted as a result of the reliance on industrialized sources for our foods.

That's why the US is the world capital of obesity. It's one of the aspects of capitalism that doesn't work. Many people believe that consumption is the road to happiness, when in reality, if carried too far, it's the road to illness and death. Eating more than one needs is very bad for one's health and state of mind. Moderation is very enjoyable. It is for me, anyway :)

Mark A. Baker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11QSpqpvTQc

Mark A. Baker
23rd October 2011, 02:25 AM
... Moderation is very enjoyable. ...

I'm rather fond of excess, myself, although I tend to pick my indulgences carefully.

I've a 'decadent' old friend who claims that moderation should only be pursued in moderation. :coolwink:


Mark A. Baker

Smilla
23rd October 2011, 03:01 AM
I'm rather fond of excess, myself, although I tend to pick my indulgences carefully.

I'm sure you do, and good for you.

I've a 'decadent' old friend who claims that moderation should only be pursued in moderation. :coolwink:

Sounds like a funny guy. I know a few like that.

Mark A. Baker

We are a kosher/vegetarian household - nothing in the kitchen has ever been in the same room as meat, or non kosher food. Actually I'm vegan, but everybody else is vegetarian. I've never smoked and don't drink. I'm not against anyone drinking - I just don't enjoy the effect of alcohol, so I don't use it. As I'm *small* a bit under five feet tall, and very *lightly built*, it doesn't take much to fuel me. I'm also a very slow eater. I'm usually still enjoying my first course, when everybody else is eating their dessert. It drives some people crazy :omg: We also don't have a TV, but the internet gets a lot of use. So that's how we live here in Lala Land, and I must go to bed. Work in the morning. Goodnight :)

Kutta
23rd October 2011, 04:36 AM
Goodness me! There actually exists someone shorter than me. That is very cheering.:happydance:

I also can't eat that crap. I think I tried KFC once about 40 years ago. Never again. Coke is also pure poison.

I have read of a growing trend in the US to eat healthy food — lots of farmers markets and organic vege options. I hope so, for the health of the nation, especially the children. It has been claimed that they will die at a younger age than their parents as despite advances in health care, the diet of high sugar, fat and artificial additives is so very harmful.

I'm mostly vegetarian, but tonight as a meat eating friend is coming to watch the final of the Rugby World Cup ( NZ vs France) and has provided a leg of NZ lamb, we are going to be eating like we used to in a childhood. ie roast lamb and veges. I'm gonna do a rhubarb sauce to pour over icecream for dessert. You roast the rhubarb in the oven with a bit of raw sugar, some grated raw ginger, and some sparkly white wine.

Mark A. Baker
23rd October 2011, 05:47 AM
We are a kosher/vegetarian household - nothing in the kitchen has ever been in the same room as meat, or non kosher food. Actually I'm vegan, but everybody else is vegetarian. I've never smoked and don't drink. I'm not against anyone drinking - I just don't enjoy the effect of alcohol, so I don't use it. As I'm *small* a bit under five feet tall, and very *lightly built*, it doesn't take much to fuel me. I'm also a very slow eater. I'm usually still enjoying my first course, when everybody else is eating their dessert. It drives some people crazy :omg: We also don't have a TV, but the internet gets a lot of use. So that's how we live here in Lala Land, and I must go to bed. Work in the morning. Goodnight :)


I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian. Very fond of cheeses & rich food. Can't ever get enough garlic. Nor did I ever meet a chocolate I didn't like, however some I like more than others. :coolwink:

Kosher is not an issue for me. I've noticed that my favorite vegetarian restaurants tend to do a good business with the jewish community. Especially the chinese veggie restaurants.

I've no further interest in consuming meat and haven't for many years despite my having bee raised on it. It also constituted a significant part of my diet for the first 30 years of my life. I've been veggie so long now, though, that I find the smell of meat wholly unappetizing. I stay away from people's houses on thanksgiving as they invariably stink of roast turkey. Feh! It's enough to put one off of eating altogether.

Came to being vegetarian around the age of 30, so it's been well over 25 years now. Oddly enough I still occasionally get an occasional hankering for seafood, but not where I feel a need or desire to act upon it. Ironically, I discovered the best local seafood restaurant I have ever seen shortly AFTER I stopped eating seafood. C'est la vie. :eyeroll:

Not much for drinking. I never particularly cared for the alcohol that much. I prefer caffeine as my drug of choice. I especially don't like the way alcohol feels in the body. I do have some very fond memories of enjoyable meals with seafood & wine well represented, especially in chile and throughout latin america. But I gave that up years back. I will still on (very rare) occasion sip a bit of sherry, though.


Mark A. Baker

I told you I was trouble
23rd October 2011, 08:57 AM
Posted by Smilla

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I've had the feeling for years, that if Revolta *could* get out, he would. I don't think he's at all happy in the Cult.



I've had that feeling for years too and even though it is only a feeling I feel that it's his wife that prevents him from getting out and as each year goes by it would only get harder.

He seems to be every bit as mentally trapped as we all once were and all the money in the world can't fix that.

Poor man.

:nervous:

Cat's Squirrel
23rd October 2011, 04:58 PM
I recall his saying on British TV a while back that he still considers himself a Catholic (he was raised as one) and prays every day, or most days. So if that's true and not just PR he's not completely within the Scn mindset, and may not have been for some time.

Veda
23rd October 2011, 05:37 PM
I recall his saying on British TV a while back that he still considers himself a Catholic (he was raised as one) and prays every day, or most days. So if that's true and not just PR he's not completely within the Scn mindset, and may not have been for some time.

Sigh...


Juliette Lewis did a recent interview with Vanity Fair magazine and was asked some interesting questions. (including one concerning the thread title I used).

Also she was asked about Xenu as well. :p

She explains that some people are confusing Hubbards science fiction works with his studies that have nothing to do with science fiction.

I'm glad we got that all cleared up. :coolwink:

If you'd like to read the actual interview it is located here:
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/12/juliette-lewis.html

There is another article about the interview here:
http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/can-you-be-a-christian-scientologist/question-1380577/

Just in case the interview eventually gets removed from the website I'll repost some of the scientology related questions (and answers) from the interview here:
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Iím not sure how to segue into this, so Iíll just come out and ask. Youíre a Scientologist, right?
I am, yeah.
Do you celebrate Christmas? Iíve never been sure about that. Does Christmas count as a Scientology holiday?
Oh yeah. We absolutely celebrate Christmas.
So you have a tree with ornaments and eggnog and presents and Christmas carols that arenít about Xenu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu)?
Iím a Christian! I think thereís so much confusion because people donít understand a religion where you can be another religion but you can still practice Scientology. Thatís why itís completely progressive. Itís just tools for living. Itís about understanding oneís self and others and compassion and how to communicate better and how to live in this troubled society. Itís really basic, common sense stuff. It has nothing to do with all this funny folklore that surrounds it. You could be a Jewish Scientologist or a Buddhist Scientologist or a Christian Scientologist or anything else.
Do you believe your ancestors were reincarnated aliens?
Thatís not been a part of my experience, no. (Laughs.)
So... you donít believe you came from aliens?
I was thinking about where that idea came from, and I was like, ďOh, maybe itís because [L. Ron] Hubbard was a successful science fiction writer, so theyíre confusing his science fiction with his other studies that have nothing to do with science fiction.Ē Itís like you thinking I might punch somebody in the face because I played somebody who punched somebody in the face in a movie.
Thatís actually a pretty good analogy. I wasnít expecting that.
Iím used to misconceptions. And honestly, I donít care to explain Scientology to people. You can investigate it on your own. Itís not that difficult. There are Web sites and all sorts of resources. The one thing that troubles me is when rumor becomes hatred and prejudice towards a group of people. Thatís when it becomes scary, when you have people trying to take away other peopleís right to practice a religion of your own choosing.
Youíre taking all the fun out of mocking Scientology.
My experience is, thereís nothing alarming or inhibitive about Scientology. I donít find it judgmental. I canít speak for somebody elseís experience. Itís just my own.

Read the entire interview here:
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/12/juliette-lewis.html

Lulu Belle
23rd October 2011, 05:59 PM
http://laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/21634/John-Travolta-wants-reservation-at-KFC (http://laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/21634/John-Travolta-wants-reservation-at-KFC)

Xenu wants reserved chicken



This story keeps showing up on all my feeds. At first I dismissed it because I thought it was another John Travolta eats (http://laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/21634/John-Travolta-wants-reservation-at-KFC#) a lot of greasy chicken in the sauna story because, well, thatís not exactly news, but then, as the hits kept repeating, from more and more outlets, I took a closer look and it turns out John did want some greasy chicken only not in the sauna but in an actual KFC. Where his people called ahead to try and make a reservation and were shut down.

John is apparently in England at a Xenu convention, perhaps for a semi-annual no gay maintenance check. The other day, a local KFC received a phone call from the Xenu people requesting a table reservation for ďMr TravoltaĒ.

At a KFC???

When did this happen?

When did KFC become El Bulli??? (Let me stop you right there if youíre about to email me and tell me about the time you got in to El Bulli. I will never get the chance unless they change their minds so Iím in no mood to read your gloat! OK fine, you can gloat a little.)

Anyway, who rings up a KFC and asks for VIP styles???

The moment you decide you want to eat (http://laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/21634/John-Travolta-wants-reservation-at-KFC#) KFC (with all due respect to KFC because Iím always down with an all dark meat box) style becomes irrelevant. The moment you decide you need some fried ass chicken, you are Britney Spears and gel nails with a busted weave eating by the side of the highway which is where KFC is supposed to be enjoyed! In the car! On a road trip!

Unless of course youíre John Travolta. Who prefers his fried chicken in the store, at a table in the corner, roped off and lit by candlelight, staring at a fireman.

KFC has since issued a public apology for turning away John Travoltaís request for special treatment at their establishment. Weak!

Source (http://consumerist.com/2011/10/kfc-apologizes-for-not-letting-john-travolta-reserve-a-table.html)

Smilla
23rd October 2011, 07:28 PM
I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian. Very fond of cheeses & rich food. Can't ever get enough garlic. Nor did I ever meet a chocolate I didn't like, however some I like more than others. :coolwink:

I like garlic too, and make a very nice cream of garlic soup which can be made with or without dairy cream.


3/4 cup garlic cloves, peeled
3 tablespoons olive oil
Vegetable stock
1 cup white wine
2 1/2 cups milk
1 cup heavy whipping cream or soya alternative
1/2 cup peeled and cubed potatoes
salt and pepper to taste
Fresh Parsley and Thyme to garnish

I rarely eat chocolate, as I find the taste a bit too intense, but when I'm in the mood for it I enjoy it.

Kosher is not an issue for me. I've noticed that my favorite vegetarian restaurants tend to do a good business with the jewish community. Especially the chinese veggie restaurants.

I've never come across a vegetarian chinese restaurant, and never eat in ordinary chinese restaurants, as they are about as far from kosher as it's possible to get. I would try a veggie one, though.

I've no further interest in consuming meat and haven't for many years despite my having bee raised on it. It also constituted a significant part of my diet for the first 30 years of my life. I've been veggie so long now, though, that I find the smell of meat wholly unappetizing. I stay away from people's houses on thanksgiving as they invariably stink of roast turkey. Feh! It's enough to put one off of eating altogether.

I gave up meat when I was 13 and don't miss it at all. I don't like the smell either.

Came to being vegetarian around the age of 30, so it's been well over 25 years now. Oddly enough I still occasionally get an occasional hankering for seafood, but not where I feel a need or desire to act upon it. Ironically, I discovered the best local seafood restaurant I have ever seen shortly AFTER I stopped eating seafood. C'est la vie. :eyeroll:

:lol:

Not much for drinking. I never particularly cared for the alcohol that much. I prefer caffeine as my drug of choice. I especially don't like the way alcohol feels in the body. I do have some very fond memories of enjoyable meals with seafood & wine well represented, especially in chile and throughout latin america. But I gave that up years back. I will still on (very rare) occasion sip a bit of sherry, though.

I drip a few drops of wine into a glass of water for kiddush, or for toasts on important occasions, but thats about it for me. I have one very strong coffee every morning which I really enjoy.

Mark A. Baker

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Mark A. Baker
24th October 2011, 12:25 AM
..I like garlic too, and make a very nice cream of garlic soup which can be made with or without dairy cream.
3/4 cup garlic cloves, peeled
3 tablespoons olive oil
Vegetable stock
1 cup white wine
2 1/2 cups milk
1 cup heavy whipping cream or soya alternative
1/2 cup peeled and cubed potatoes
salt and pepper to taste
Fresh Parsley and Thyme to garnish

Thanks for the recipe. Sounds yummy. :)

As to the veggie chinese restaurants, one good way to find out about such is to check with any Buddhist communities or organizations in your area. There are often veggie restaurants located near Buddhist communities and the community magazines often take advertising from the local merchants. If not sure about Buddhist communities, try the phone book or Buddhist magazines such as Tricycle or Shambala Sun or any you may have in europe. These often contain lists of local centers.

One of the best restaurants I ever frequented was in LA. They had a unique cuisine that was strict vegetarian and utterly awesome. It was based on chinese imperial vegetarian cuisine. Unfortunately the partnership that owned the restaurant broke up after several years and the restaurant closed despite it being very successful. I still dream of the Rich Curried Vegetable Treasure in Coconut Milk Sauce. :hurt:

Oh, my god. :bigcry:

As a tip, should you ever find yourself in Berkeley, California (a very fun town to hang out and just across the bay from Frisco), there are a number of excellent veggie restaurants near the university in a wide variety of cuisines. The restaurants in Berkeley also tend to be far more reasonably priced than those in SF.

In particular there is an excellent family run chinese veggie restaurant which I've been going to for 25 years. It's just down from the university (UCB) on University avenue (main drag going up hill from SF bay to the university). The name of the restaurant is the "Long Life Veggie Restaurant". The food is simple but quite good and very reasonably priced. It's very popular with the locals, especially the students & faculty from the university. Moreover, it is only about 3 blocks total from the Berkeley BART station, so it's really quite easy to get to no matter where your start is in the Bay area.

[note: BART is the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, a light rail which provides commuter service around the SF Bay Area. It is very easy to catch BART from SF to Berkeley and vice versa.)

If you ever have occasion to do a gig in the Frisco area spend a day in Berkeley. I think you'll enjoy it. It can be a little bizarre, especially when the university is in session, but it is interesting. :yes:


Mark A. Baker

smartone
24th October 2011, 12:50 AM
I think that JT is aware to a certain extent what goes on behind the scenes of the SO. He's too scared what will come out about his past if he defects. And his career will suffer. Same goes for TC.

How can they not know. It's plastered all over the internet and in the media. Surely they can't be THAT stupid.

Mind you, I never believed all the entheta when I was in for 24 years... :think: