This is getting bigger - Cruise and 9/11

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Tom Cruise criticized over his attitude to the September 11 attacks

http://www.showbizspy.com/2008/01/18/tom-cruise-criticized-over-his-attitude-to-the-september-11-attacks/

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Great post on OCMB from BTs2free:
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=24837&postorder=asc&start=15

Just a snip:

As well, with Tom's vicious and agressive statements about the world's mental health community along with the CoS's anit-psych propaganda, it wouldn't surprise me if the US Government starts looking at Scientology as more of a terrorist-type organization - especially in a post-9/11 world.

This is the PR flap that Scientology won't be able to handle.

The internal sec checks, investigations and witch hunts within the CoS and the Cruise camp are probably at an all-time high right now.

[Emma]

http://www.radaronline.com:80/exclusives/2008/01/post-7.php

check them out :D

[Alan]

http://www.radaronline.com:80/exclusives/2008/01/post-7.php

check them out :D

My favorite is the Craig Fergusen video! :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

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This report states the Morton book is now number #1 on Amazon!
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/01/18/1200620181440.html

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Sydney Morning Herald

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/sects-lies-and-videotape/2008/01/18/1200620211201.html?page=fullpage

Sects, lies and videotape
Andreas Heldal-Lund runs the Norwegian website Clambake (www.xenu.net) which has become the leading repository for Scientology texts and criticism of the cult. He has not been taken through the courts. "They started seeing that the more they got involved with these crazy people on the internet, the more they sued them, the more trouble they had."

Heldal-Lund is not a refugee from the cult but the managing director of a big US corporation in Norway who comes to this issue as a champion of free speech. He has not emerged unscathed. Like many critics who have conducted research on Scientology, he complains of attempts by the cult to intimidate him.

"They are good at shaking up," he told the Herald. "When they want to attack me, they don't go directly at me. They go to my ex-fiancee. They go to my employer or they go to people in the company I work for. They go to the guy I rent the house from. They never make direct claims but ask weird questions. They do all this planting of small seeds of mistrust so that people think, hmm there's something weird about this Andreas. This has been going on for years. This is what they're very, very good at."

[pomfritz]

http://www.radaronline.com:80/exclusives/2008/01/post-7.php

check them out :D

oh fer crissakes :roflmao: :roflmao:

From now on I'll bet any other Scieno celebs turn and runs away when they see a Gold crew with a camera.

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I just saw an ad for Monday's A Current Affair promising to reveal "all the secrets" on Cruise. ACA is the rival to Today/Tonight on prime time TV here. :)

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German academic compares Tom Cruise to Goebbels


http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iaiw99_qI93PvMomEJ078dvZwedA

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

Tom is standing too close to a powerful entity with powerful enemies. According to Ron, if enemies cannot attack the main person, they will at least attack his associates. I think this was written up in the Power Formula. What will Tom's next step be?

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Sydney Morning Herald

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/sects-lies-and-videotape/2008/01/18/1200620211201.html?page=fullpage

Sects, lies and videotape
Andreas Heldal-Lund runs the Norwegian website Clambake (www.xenu.net) which has become the leading repository for Scientology texts and criticism of the cult. He has not been taken through the courts. "They started seeing that the more they got involved with these crazy people on the internet, the more they sued them, the more trouble they had."

Heldal-Lund is not a refugee from the cult but the managing director of a big US corporation in Norway who comes to this issue as a champion of free speech. He has not emerged unscathed. Like many critics who have conducted research on Scientology, he complains of attempts by the cult to intimidate him.

"They are good at shaking up," he told the Herald. "When they want to attack me, they don't go directly at me. They go to my ex-fiancee. They go to my employer or they go to people in the company I work for. They go to the guy I rent the house from. They never make direct claims but ask weird questions. They do all this planting of small seeds of mistrust so that people think, hmm there's something weird about this Andreas. This has been going on for years. This is what they're very, very good at."

A great job of dead agenting the low lifes.

[Alanzo]

Tom is standing too close to a powerful entity with powerful enemies. According to Ron, if enemies cannot attack the main person, they will at least attack his associates. I think this was written up in the Power Formula. What will Tom's next step be?

David Miscavage is not a powerful entity.

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

David Miscavage is not a powerful entity.

Right, it is only an apparency, one that makes him the head of the CofS and very, very rich and with some influence. How much, I don't know. Tom is standing too close to him and he is going to be hit just for that alone, even if he were the most sincere person in America.

[Alanzo]

Right, it is only an apparency, one that makes him the head of the CofS and very, very rich and with some influence. How much, I don't know. Tom is standing too close to him and he is going to be hit just for that alone, even if he were the most sincere person in America.
Tom Cruise is sincere.

He is getting the criticism he is because of what he has done and said, and because of the way he is being used by the Church.

It has nothing to do with any kind of delusional power formula developed by Hubbard to get people to sacrifice themselves for him.

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

Tom Cruise is sincere.

He is getting the criticism he is because of what he has done and said, and because of the way he is being used by the Church.

It has nothing to do with any kind of delusional power formula developed by Hubbard to get people to sacrifice themselves for him.

Thanks for the deprogramming :eyeroll:

[MarkWI]

Tom Cruise is sincere.

He is getting the criticism he is because of what he has done and said, and because of the way he is being used by the Church.

It has nothing to do with any kind of delusional power formula developed by Hubbard to get people to sacrifice themselves for him.

He may even enjoy the "being a martyr" feeling,
like every good brainwashed extremist adept do.

M

[Little Bear Victor]

Tom Cruise is sincere.

He is getting the criticism he is because of what he has done and said, and because of the way he is being used by the Church.

It has nothing to do with any kind of delusional power formula developed by Hubbard to get people to sacrifice themselves for him.

Alanzo, I agree. TC is only shown the "good side" of Scientology, and it is also being done at a level afforded no other Scientologist. He believes in Scientology for the same reasons anyone who has ever been a Scientologist does (or did): It seems to have all the knowledge and all the answers to the problems of the world. And he thinks he knows DM personally -- which he does, but only one side of him -- so he wouldn't believe the other side no matter who told him about it. He is in, all the way. He is the most successful product and promoter of DMs propaganda and PR empire. At the moment, he is unshakable in that belief, and probably will be up to the day DM takes off.

It's actually pretty pathetic.

V

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LBV - is there any news coming out about how DM is reacting to this yet?
They seem to be pushing the (incorrect) point that Morton never asked for interviews as the attack line. Pretty pathetic.

[Little Bear Victor]

FTS, let me check that out. I was just going along minding my own business when I heard some rumbles and realized it was Morton's book having been released. Just now watched the Today show and other interviews myself. I know some people who might have information....

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FTS, let me check that out. I was just going along minding my own business when I heard some rumbles and realized it was Morton's book having been released. Just now watched the Today show and other interviews myself. I know some people who might have information....

Cool!! :thumbsup:
This has been huge for me, I've been reading bloody boards all week and gettin square eyes. I just love it that some truth is being exposed. But I also worry for those who might be blamed for it by DM. God....

[Little Bear Victor]

Yes, I know, sort of like being blamed for a mud slide on the Int base...

"Someone's gonna pay for this" is the topmost thought on DM's mind at this time. And it may be a lot of "someones."

A flap of this proportion should result (among other things) in approximately 25 offloads, 15 RPF assignments, 20 blows, 60 post removals, a 5-year extension to the lower conditions at Int. That is, between Int and OSA, actually. I think OSA is going to get it worse than anyone else, proportional to number of personnel. Other people who had nothing to do with it will feel the consequences just because they happened to blink or cough at the wrong moment (during a COB meeting or conference call).

Just when the strategy was to start decreasing the number of people on the RPF...

Man, must Rinder be happy he is not in charge of handling this one!

Let's hope the offloads and blows are as rapid and painless as possible and that a few of the newcomers end up posting here with the latest inside news from the crumbling empire...

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Let's hope the offloads and blows are as rapid and painless as possible and that a few of the newcomers end up posting here with the latest inside news from the crumbling empire...

Amen to that.