New to board and searching for long-lost friends

[ChaoticPsychotic]

Hey everyone.

I am an "in-the-closet" ex and/or anti-Scientologist. I still have a ton of family members in so I cannot out myself yet.

I was in the Sea Org in the HGB in LA from '93-'97. I knew a whole lot of people in the building due to the posts that I held. I was a teenager at the time.

If you were in during that time, maybe I know you. Maybe I was even a friend to you. If you think there is a chance you know me, let me know!

Sorry to be so vague but I cannot be too careful!

[Dulloldfart]

Hey everyone.

I am an "in-the-closet" ex and/or anti-Scientologist. I still have a ton of family members in so I cannot out myself yet.

I was in the Sea Org in the HGB in LA from '93-'97. I knew a whole lot of people in the building due to the posts that I held. I was a teenager at the time.

If you were in during that time, maybe I know you. Maybe I was even a friend to you. If you think there is a chance you know me, let me know!

Sorry to be so vague but I cannot be too careful!

Hey there,

I was probably Staff Courses Practical Sup ITO in 1993, and we may have met.

Paul Adams

[ChaoticPsychotic]

You were a British man right? Errr I mean, you are a British man. Silly me. Yes, I knew you. I am not sure if there is a way to reply to you to tell you who I am in private. Of course, you may not even remember me but I certainly remember you!

[Dulloldfart]

You were a British man right? Errr I mean, you are a British man. Silly me. Yes, I knew you. I am not sure if there is a way to reply to you to tell you who I am in private. Of course, you may not even remember me but I certainly remember you!

Yes, a Brit. One way is to click on "Private Messages", top right.

Paul

[Lulu Belle]

Hey everyone.

I am an "in-the-closet" ex and/or anti-Scientologist. I still have a ton of family members in so I cannot out myself yet.

I was in the Sea Org in the HGB in LA from '93-'97. I knew a whole lot of people in the building due to the posts that I held. I was a teenager at the time.

If you were in during that time, maybe I know you. Maybe I was even a friend to you. If you think there is a chance you know me, let me know!

Sorry to be so vague but I cannot be too careful!


Chaotic,

Just so you know, you don't have to worry too much.

"They" are really really really busy.

You could probably stand in the middle of Times Square naked screaming your name and they wouldn't have the resources to attack you.

Considering everything that's going on. :)

[Kathy (ImOut)]

Welcome, C P.

I probably don't know you since I wasn't in the SO.

Glad to have you here.:happydance:

[Terril park]

Chaotic,

Just so you know, you don't have to worry too much.

"They" are really really really busy.

You could probably stand in the middle of Times Square naked screaming your name and they wouldn't have the resources to attack you.

Considering everything that's going on. :)

Thus Lulubelle speaketh.

She is the Oracle. :)

[Dulloldfart]

You could probably stand in the middle of Times Square naked screaming your name and they wouldn't have the resources to attack you.



If you do that, put it on YouTube. :)

Paul

[ExCMO]

Hey everyone.

I am an "in-the-closet" ex and/or anti-Scientologist. I still have a ton of family members in so I cannot out myself yet.

I was in the Sea Org in the HGB in LA from '93-'97. I knew a whole lot of people in the building due to the posts that I held. I was a teenager at the time.

If you were in during that time, maybe I know you. Maybe I was even a friend to you. If you think there is a chance you know me, let me know!

Sorry to be so vague but I cannot be too careful!
Hi CP, and welcome here. I hope you enjoy staying around. It's a great place.

I was in ITO for training and later posted in FB in '94/'95 after I got my sorry ass kicked from CMO, so I'm almost sure we met there. I am also vague for the very same reasons you are, but please feel free to PM me and we can discuss the matter.

I hope to hear from you soon.

[johnAnchovie]

Trying to remember, was in HGB in '93, on the INCOM Computerisation mission for a few years after that and spent a fair bit of time at HGB. Remeber Lea Martinano? , What was her name, Cisco, good looking girl, we worked on the computerisation then she moved to CMO IXU... Lee...Lee c'mon you, help me out here....

[Dulloldfart]

Trying to remember, was in HGB in '93, on the INCOM Computerisation mission for a few years after that and spent a fair bit of time at HGB. Remeber Lea Martinano? , What was her name, Cisco, good looking girl, we worked on the computerisation then she moved to CMO IXU... Lee...Lee c'mon you, help me out here....

Is her name here?

http://fzglobal.org/hgbstaff1994.htm

Paul

[ChaoticPsychotic]

Trying to remember, was in HGB in '93, on the INCOM Computerisation mission for a few years after that and spent a fair bit of time at HGB. Remeber Lea Martinano? , What was her name, Cisco, good looking girl, we worked on the computerisation then she moved to CMO IXU... Lee...Lee c'mon you, help me out here....

I knew Leah and her brother Jeremy. Crystal Cisco must be who you are thinking of.

[Terril park]

If you do that, put it on YouTube. :)

Paul

OK. She is the nude Oracle.

Good start to writing her best selling book.

[johnAnchovie]

That is right, Cystal, Leah, and Crystal's friend, a Frisco-ite, was sent to ANZO as LRH COMM for the Continent. Did you know ?Langly, from UK about that time went to CMO IXU, Eric and Hans Smith of course, good guys. You were FLO? CMO IXU?

Thanks DoF, that brought back a few memories.

[Lulu Belle]

Trying to remember, was in HGB in '93, on the INCOM Computerisation mission for a few years after that and spent a fair bit of time at HGB. Remeber Lea Martinano? , What was her name, Cisco, good looking girl, we worked on the computerisation then she moved to CMO IXU... Lee...Lee c'mon you, help me out here....


Crystal.

Carol Cisco (Stein) was her mother.

Dad was Bob Cisco, the golf guy.

[The Oracle]

Hey everyone.

I am an "in-the-closet" ex and/or anti-Scientologist. I still have a ton of family members in so I cannot out myself yet.

I was in the Sea Org in the HGB in LA from '93-'97. I knew a whole lot of people in the building due to the posts that I held. I was a teenager at the time.

If you were in during that time, maybe I know you. Maybe I was even a friend to you. If you think there is a chance you know me, let me know!

Sorry to be so vague but I cannot be too careful!

I was working in the Flag Command Bureau a.k.a. HGB during that time on the WDC floor. (6th? 10th?)

By saying you have lot's of family in , were a teen, if your last name starts with a B or A and you a female I may know you.

You can PM me if so.



T.I.

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

Where was HGB and what does HGB stand for?

[Dulloldfart]

Where was HGB and what does HGB stand for?

Hollywood Guaranty Building, in Los Angeles on Hollywood Blvd between Vine and Ivar. Home of Flag Command Bureaux, upper middle management: FB, ITO, WISE, ABLE, SMI, IHELP, OSA Int etc.

Google for more data and photos.

Paul

[ChaoticPsychotic]

Check out my new thread. It's my "Non-E" formula.

[Bea Kiddo]

Crystal Cisco. I think she married Alex Meyer. The PAC RPF I/C.

Same one?

[Little Bear Victor]

Crystal Cisco. I think she married Alex Meyer. The PAC RPF I/C.

Same one?

FMD! (sorry for the nonstandard abbreviation, not in the Urban Dictionary, but close to def #4)

If that is really the connection, here's some more family drama, just when you thought you had enough:

Alex had to divorce his wife to qualify for Int. After that valiant deed for the greatest good, he is now in the Int Training Pool at Flag, where he'll be until the CoS caves in.

But: Not only that, Alex was the RPF I/C while Carol Cisco was on the RPF's RPF routing out.

(What a f****d-up life. Sorry to say, it ain't gonna get any better the higher you go, Alex.)

[Lulu Belle]

Crystal Cisco. I think she married Alex Meyer. The PAC RPF I/C.

Same one?


Did she divorce Barry Stein?

[Little Bear Victor]

In a word: yes.

(Carol Cisco did, that is.)

Barry still up there at Int, using his architectural skills as the Berthing Building Cleaner.

I'm sure you can all see the connection.

[Lulu Belle]

In a word: yes.

(Carol Cisco did, that is.)

Barry still up there at Int, using his architectural skills as the Berthing Building Cleaner.

I'm sure you can all see the connection.


That is so sad.

He is - or was - a brilliant guy.

Too bad he isn't smart enough to get the fuck out. :no:

[Free Will]

If you do that, put it on YouTube. :)

Paul

Yeah, I'll pimp it up the charts!
Keep ranting that Ron and Scientology are making you do it right through the arrest and when you get to court tell them you've got an implant! Tell the judge DM personally promised to beam you back up to the Mother Ship as soon as things got heavy.
Yeah, you can create a YouTube account with a hotmail address.


ooops.

Paul,
you overlooked that you get kicked off YouTube for nudity. Well, I did...:bigcry: :bigcry:

[Free Will]

Is her name here?

http://fzglobal.org/hgbstaff1994.htm

Paul

Wow, you've done a Man's Job there, Sir.
I'm amazed how many of my old shipmates
stayed in so long after I left.
I was PO3 Colin D Guy (MSM for a few hours till the promotion was cancelled by an opponent) at AOSHUK from 1972-81, hung around EG as a Freeloader till declared in October 82 for shagging Pam Flood (repeatedly....oh, happy days, more case gain in five hours than my whole time in the SO!)

Anyway, Paul, real nice to bump into you again. You were a lovely bloke back then. Now I look at it, these long Friday nights chainsmoking and playing GO were a wonderful escape from 'reality' for me.

There really wasn't enough laughter in Scientology (except when you felt compelled to laugh in the courseroom if you were listening to an LRH tape on headphones.....or dredging up dirty jokes when the RPF got stuck on a freezing broken down bus between Saint Hill and Stonelands).

One of my hypotheses is that Scientology and the Sea Org got a lot of mileage out of confused intelligent acid casualties! Like you, me and Bob Gilchrist...and Ira Chaleff, Floody and my brother Alistair, just for starters. I think we were all zonked into a Star Wars trip, fuelled by unofficial rumours from OT staffmates that we were going 'back' into Outer Space.
I remember Lyn Collins loudly whispering as we all drank our milkless tea round the Aga at mid-rats "I found out in session today I used to be a Starfleet Commander"..... lol :-)

I hope GO 40 tallies first time today! lol

[Dulloldfart]

Wow, you've done a Man's Job there, Sir.
I'm amazed how many of my old shipmates
stayed in so long after I left.
I was PO3 Colin D Guy (MSM for a few hours till the promotion was cancelled by an opponent) at AOSHUK from 1972-81, hung around EG as a Freeloader till declared in October 82 for shagging Pam Flood (repeatedly....oh, happy days, more case gain in five hours than my whole time in the SO!)

Anyway, Paul, real nice to bump into you again. You were a lovely bloke back then. Now I look at it, these long Friday nights chainsmoking and playing GO were a wonderful escape from 'reality' for me.

There really wasn't enough laughter in Scientology (except when you felt compelled to laugh in the courseroom if you were listening to an LRH tape on headphones.....or dredging up dirty jokes when the RPF got stuck on a freezing broken down bus between Saint Hill and Stonelands).

One of my hypotheses is that Scientology and the Sea Org got a lot of mileage out of confused intelligent acid casualties! Like you, me and Bob Gilchrist...and Ira Chaleff, Floody and my brother Alistair, just for starters. I think we were all zonked into a Star Wars trip, fuelled by unofficial rumours from OT staffmates that we were going 'back' into Outer Space.
I remember Lyn Collins loudly whispering as we all drank our milkless tea round the Aga at mid-rats "I found out in session today I used to be a Starfleet Commander"..... lol :-)

I hope GO 40 tallies first time today! lol

Hah! Hi there, Colin. I remember you well. I remember thinking Treasury would go to hell admin-wise after you left, and it did.

Is Ewan back in Glasgow too?

Paul

[moshek]

Hey, you might now Camilla Fuchs, she was at WISE Int and then onthe PAC RPF in 96-97
Or Jose Torres, also on the PAC RPF at that time. I know where Camilla is.

:-] moshek

[DartSmohen]

[QUOTE=Free Will;91216], hung around EG as a Freeloader till declared in October 82 for shagging Pam Flood (repeatedly....oh, happy days, more case gain in five hours than my whole time in the SO!)



QUOTE]


Was that David Flood's wife?

If so, good stuff.

That turd deserved everything he got. :yes: :yes: :clap:

[Cat's Squirrel]

I've heard of a Pauline Flood at St Hill, was there a Pam as well?

[Dulloldfart]

I've heard of a Pauline Flood at St Hill, was there a Pam as well?

Pam was Floody's first wife. They got split up and the marriage soured when one of them went to Flag for extensive training--think it was David, but I'm not sure.

Pauline was earlier Pauline Shantz, married to the CO SH Fdn, Peter Shantz. I don't know her name prior to that.

Paul

[Cat's Squirrel]

OK, fair do's and thanks for the info.

[dt2000]

In a word: yes.

(Carol Cisco did, that is.)

Barry still up there at Int, using his architectural skills as the Berthing Building Cleaner.

I'm sure you can all see the connection.


Eh, last I knew (04) Barry Stein was on the RPF in PAC.....

ETA - Oh and I was in the HGB from 91-03 so know a lot of you as well. Not saying who I am right now though. Feel free to pm me if you are interested though :)

[byte301]

Where did Chaotic Psychotic go? She hasn't posted in quite awhile.

[Good twin]

Where did Chaotic Psychotic go? She hasn't posted in quite awhile.

She might be over at Exscnkids. A lot of the younger ones are.:yes:

[Kathy (ImOut)]

She might be over at Exscnkids. A lot of the younger ones are.:yes:

Per Grundy's last update, she's busy handling other stuff. Maybe I'll send her an email and check up on her. Oh, I won't be around to respond to her email or let anyone know. This will have to wait till next week. Unless Grundy gives us an answer before I return to the board.

[GreyLensman]

Hey everyone.

I am an "in-the-closet" ex and/or anti-Scientologist. I still have a ton of family members in so I cannot out myself yet.

I was in the Sea Org in the HGB in LA from '93-'97. I knew a whole lot of people in the building due to the posts that I held. I was a teenager at the time.

If you were in during that time, maybe I know you. Maybe I was even a friend to you. If you think there is a chance you know me, let me know!

Sorry to be so vague but I cannot be too careful!

We probably passed on the streets. But in any case, welcome.

[Wirestripper]

OP: did you know Eric Quercia? Not sure if I spelled his name right....shorter fellow, outrageous French accent and a snaggle-tooth?

Was in Gold......so part of it anyway, he was down at the HGB between....96-99? something like that.

[Dulloldfart]

OP: did you know Eric Quercia?

Mel hasn't logged in here for a while. From her profile: Last Activity: 3rd April 2008 04:28 PM.

Paul

[EP - Ethics Particle]

From late 80's (when I knew him - but he'd been around a while, I think). Dexter Gelfand was his name and I liked him a great deal.

I'd sure like to give him my hand to shake - again. PM would be fine if anyone has data.

EP

[Free Will]

I've heard of a Pauline Flood at St Hill, was there a Pam as well?
Yes. I believe she began as Pamela Walker in her native Leeds, She helped start the Leeds Franchise (Mission) with her first husband Howard Thomson and a bunch of friends including Peter Thompson and Vic Lyons. The marriage to Dave Flood lasted only weeks - she baulked at the idea of living in Sea Org quarters.
My guess is that David chose a new Mrs Flood, first name Pauline?

[Panda Termint]

Yes. I believe she began as Pamela Walker in her native Leeds, She helped start the Leeds Franchise (Mission) with her first husband Howard Thomson and a bunch of friends including Peter Thompson and Vic Lyons. The marriage to Dave Flood lasted only weeks - she baulked at the idea of living in Sea Org quarters.
My guess is that David chose a new Mrs Flood, first name Pauline?

(Cue Twilight Zone Theme)
Ah, Howard and the Leeds Franchise; my first encounter with Scn, my first LRH book, my first meeting with an SO Missionaire on a FOLOUK Recruitment Mission, the beginning of it all.... (fade to grey)

[Giuseppe]

Remeber Lea Martinano?

And brother Jeremy and other [older] brother Jason, (who is the kid in TWTH cleaning the windows on the french doors, drawn by that deaf artist who was always on the 8th floor MB, like the great hunchback...)

[sandygirl]

Yea!!!!!!!!!!!

Guiseppe is back!!!!:happydance:

[solo]

Yes. I believe she began as Pamela Walker in her native Leeds, She helped start the Leeds Franchise (Mission) with her first husband Howard Thomson and a bunch of friends including Peter Thompson and Vic Lyons. The marriage to Dave Flood lasted only weeks - she baulked at the idea of living in Sea Org quarters.


Pam (Flood/Thompson) moved back to Yorkshire and married John Harris. Very sorry to say she died on Christmas Day from a brain tumour. Howard died not long after.

Pauline (Flood/Shantz) was previously married to someone called Patrick (Religan?) I think Pauline and Peter had about four children between them.
Goodness, there's a lot of truth in that old tale about everyone in Saint Hill (and maybe East Grinstead) being "related by divorce"!

Solo

[Cherub]

Welcome to the board CP! I wouldnt mind finding some old friends myself, was q volunteer staff at AOLA in 1968, when it first opened, wild and wooly. OT3 had just came out and, as CO Ira Chaleff told me, lots of fish and fumble on the ship.
Bob Harvey was OTL Liasaon, Reggie Farnum was head of Qual -- even Alan Walters was still on board at that time, giving "success stories." O My!!!

Next came Capt Bill Robertson -- I am sure a few of you remember him!!!

Anybody?

The Cherub

[dexter gelfand]

From late 80's (when I knew him - but he'd been around a while, I think). Dexter Gelfand was his name and I liked him a great deal.

I'd sure like to give him my hand to shake - again. PM would be fine if anyone has data.

EP
Hello EP, I'm Dexter Gelfand, thanks for the kind words. If you want to shake my hand I'd be honored, but you'll have to visit California, because I relocated out here a few months ago, Been a Freezoner for a while now.

I have to admit, I'm most curious as to who you are. I just googled my name and came across your post.

Regards,
Dex

[Carmel]

Hello EP, I'm Dexter Gelfand, thanks for the kind words. If you want to shake my hand I'd be honored, but you'll have to visit California, because I relocated out here a few months ago, Been a Freezoner for a while now.

I have to admit, I'm most curious as to who you are. I just googled my name and came across your post.

Regards,
Dex
Hey Dex,

I just came across your post here, while looking for something else. I see that you are new to the board - Welcome! :thumbsup:

Chances are, there would be others on the board who know you, and others like me, who'd like to welcome you - so maybe it'd be a good idea to introduce yourself under "New Member Introductions", to let people know you are here. :)

All the best,
Carmel