Youtube removes "Message to Scientology"

[namaste]

http://digg.com/world_news/Youtube_pulls_Anonymous_Message_to_Church_of_Scien tology

[Kathy (ImOut)]

YouTube must have been hit hard by the Church - threats of lawsuits, etc. There goes some more of our Freedom of Speech. People really have to understand the Church - they have a loud bark, but they really can't bite under the Freedom of Speech laws. Why do companies wimp out - why can't they stand up and call out the Church for the underhanded tactics they use.:angry:

[namaste]

Now there are four more just in a few minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58nMAvp43h0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCVTqgYLF4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pg1kXT34QY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlFm389P7l0


Many more to come.


:hysterical:

Edit: whoops, forgot that the vids would all show up on the post. Just meant to post links.

[Anon678_]

Lol. What idiots, predictably they did the worst possible thing. AGAIN. Efforts in respect of posting videos on youtube are no doubt increasing ten times at this very moment.

There's a reason we say "we are legion".

[Zinjifar]

I have one word:

heh

Zinj

[namaste]

Too many to count now.

This is a typical example of how the church of scientology keeps shooting itself in the foot.

[Emma]

What idiots the CoS are.

They really NEVER learn.

They tried to supress the Tom Cruise 2004 video and we all KNOW what happened with that.

However *dangerous* that video was to the CoS when it was up on youtube, it has just increased x1000 times.

They really are very very stupid. :duh:

[Emma]

http://digg.com/world_news/Youtube_pulls_Anonymous_Message_to_Church_of_Scien tology

Digg this!!!

[Björkist]

If anyone should know what happens when you "not-is" something, it should be a Scientologist....oh wait...Scientologists aren't running the Church these days. :duh:

[Zinjifar]

heh, I got Rickrolled, but seriously volks...

This will still be funny tomorrow

Zinj

[everfree]

Haha, they sure betray their lack of understanding of human nature on a consistent basis.

[Veda]

If anyone should know what happens when you "not-is" something, it should be a Scientologist....oh wait...Scientologists aren't running the Church these days. :duh:

Sure they are.

Post-1965 "modern Scientologists."

They even have an instruction manual.

http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=66515

[Björkist]

Sure they are.

Post-1965 "modern Scientologists."

They even have an instruction manual.

http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=66515


Well, I think it's been sufficiently cleared up that you and I have different views on a couple of things...now to include what a true Scientologist is...

[Zinjifar]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=anonymous+scientology&search_sort=video_date_uploaded

Zinj

[Veda]

"PR is overt (advertised); Intelligence is covert." PR Series #7.

It's not enough just to describe the PR (advertised) part of Scientology.

At least not for most people...

[namaste]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=anonymous+scientology&search_sort=video_date_uploaded

Zinj

LOL, that's 1 - 20 of 3,390 results.

[namaste]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/zumoo34/TOSviolation.jpg

[Emma]

LOL, that's 1 - 20 of 3,390 results.

And that's only the ones with "anonymous" in the title. I know a lot of them are uploading the video WITHOUT "anonymous" in the title.

[Snuffy]

Anyone know what exactly the particular term of service was that the message violated? Doubt if it was copyright. Suspect the cult pulled something out about inspiring religious hatred.

Info anyone?

[lionheart]

What idiots the CoS are.

They really NEVER learn.

They tried to supress the Tom Cruise 2004 video and we all KNOW what happened with that.

However *dangerous* that video was to the CoS when it was up on youtube, it has just increased x1000 times.

They really are very very stupid. :duh:

The CofS CAN'T learn. They MUST follow LRH orders and he is dead.

The orders are certainly not designed for the modern internet environment. In the old days threatening an individual publisher or author shuddered them into silence (usually). These days the authors and publishers are LEGION! :thumbsup:

[Snuffy]

Anyone know what exactly the particular term of service was that the message violated? Doubt if it was copyright. Suspect the cult pulled something out about inspiring religious hatred.

Info anyone?

I've had a look, and I'll bet Cof$ pressured them with this, from You Tube's Community Guidelines (my emphasis):

We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).


All the more reason why Cof$ should not be allowed world-wide religious recognition.

[sandygirl]

I really don' t understand this! WHY...draw more attention to the videos by this move. This makes them look like whiners who have something to hide.

This is the midnset I could not get. I would try to quiet down the whole thing and TRY to do something good to reverse public opinion-these actions make them look guiltier!:duh: :duh:

[nw2394]

I really don' t understand this! WHY...

Don't try to understand the ununderstandable. Out here, we are relatively sane. We see that the CoS repeating the very mistake they made with the Cruise video is plainly about the single most idiotic thing they could have done. But they failed to observe that pulling the Cruise video was a bad move in the first place. Is it any wonder that they have repeated their error.

For once I agree with Lionheart. They are stuck in the past applying policies (that were questionable in the first place) and certainly are inappropriate to the current situation. Hubbard called it a 'held down seven'.

Nick

[Dulloldfart]

Maybe it's not a mistake. Maybe there are people in the Legal Dept. who've been working for us all along. :)

Paul

http://www.fzglobal.org/miscpix/cos_sign_pra_sig.jpg (http://www.fzglobal.org/miscpix/cos_sign_pra.jpg)

[Alanzo]

Don't try to understand the ununderstandable. Out here, we are relatively sane. We see that the CoS repeating the very mistake they made with the Cruise video is plainly about the single most idiotic thing they could have done. But they failed to observe that pulling the Cruise video was a bad move in the first place. Is it any wonder that they have repeated their error.

For once I agree with Lionheart. They are stuck in the past applying policies (that were questionable in the first place) and certainly are inappropriate to the current situation. Hubbard called it a 'held down seven'.

Nick

The whole effort to apply L Ron Hubbard to your life, or even have to use it to run the church is a held-down-seven.

Life is infinite.

Finite, pinheaded, philosophies with fixed solutions are not.

So, in conclusion:

Infinite Life is Infinite

Pinheaded, Fixed Philosophies are Fixed and Pinheaded.

There.

Wasn't that satisfying?

[nozeno]

The whole effort to apply L Ron Hubbard to your life, or even have to use it to run the church is a held-down-seven.

Life is infinite.

Finite, pinheaded, philosophies with fixed solutions are not.

So, in conclusion:

Infinite Life is Infinite

Pinheaded, Fixed Philosophies are Fixed and Pinheaded.

There.

Wasn't that satisfying?

Jesus H Christ, I think I'm clear. Send me to Qual. :omg:

[Alanzo]

Jesus H Christ, I think I'm clear. Send me to Qual. :omg:

People often go clear on my posts.

It's nothing new. :)

[TheSneakster]

not important

[PirateAndBum]

The video is still up on YouTube :confused2:

[Terril park]

Maybe it's not a mistake. Maybe there are people in the Legal Dept. who've been working for us all along. :)

Paul

http://www.fzglobal.org/miscpix/cos_sign_pra_sig.jpg (http://www.fzglobal.org/miscpix/cos_sign_pra.jpg)


Many a true word is spoken in jest.

[b ginn]

Learning my image posting skills. :happydance:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/bginn/scnfag.jpg

[Jesus666]

video back up again after recieving thousands of complaints

[Anon678_]

Is there an official release from youtube, or some sort of official coverage?

Another win for anon.

[lionheart]

Don't try to understand the ununderstandable. Out here, we are relatively sane. We see that the CoS repeating the very mistake they made with the Cruise video is plainly about the single most idiotic thing they could have done. But they failed to observe that pulling the Cruise video was a bad move in the first place. Is it any wonder that they have repeated their error.

For once I agree with Lionheart. They are stuck in the past applying policies (that were questionable in the first place) and certainly are inappropriate to the current situation. Hubbard called it a 'held down seven'.

Nick

:D We agree about lots of things Nick! :wink2:

The problem the CofS has is that they can only follow LRH policy. In the 60's his instructions were set as to how to handle "entheta" publications and they were designed to silence single authors and single publishers. Even then they were only marginally "effective". They didn't stop the publication of Vosper's "Mind Benders", Kaufman's "Inside Scientology", Cooper's "Scandal of Scientology", etc, even though LRH tried to tie them up in litigation.

But his policy doesn't work in the modern evironment of the internet where you have multiple authors and publishers. Authors and publishers who are "Legion".

So when they apply LRH policy of handling critics, they get the backlash of outrage on the internet. But they can't change their ways, because they are stuck in the 60's/70's when LRH could not envision the Internet.

This is why the CofS will cave in, it was never built for the 21st century and cannot adapt without breaking LRH commands.

[nw2394]

:D We agree about lots of things Nick! :wink2:


Yeah, that's true

Nick

[Chowderhead]

It's amazing that in all of the Trillion years of the whole track there was never an internet. If there were then a being with perfect wholetrack recall like LRH would have foreseen all of this. Especially if he had audited out the FUTURE. :D

[Alan]

It's amazing that in all of the Trillion years of the whole track there was never an internet. If there were then a being with perfect wholetrack recall like LRH would have foreseen all of this. Especially if he had audited out the FUTURE. :D



There is a spiritual internet (it was part of the first Ascension Experience I had in the 2nd session in Scientology in 1961, I even called it the web - several others have observed this.) - as well as a mental internet - which may well be what monitors the physical universe internet.

It is a Lightside spiritual phenomena.

Uncontactable if you are continuosly running negative procedures.

Alan

[Tanstaafl]

There is a spiritual internet (it was part of the first Ascension Experience I had in the 2nd session in Scientology in 1961, I even called it the web - several others have observed this.) - as well as a mental internet - which may well be what monitors the physical universe internet.

It is a Lightside spiritual phenomena.

Uncontactable if you are continuosly running negative procedures.

Alan

It may not be the same thing but a few years back I was messing with alpha wave CDs and had an experience (our of session) of perceiving a network of countless energy flows (intentions and communications) in another realm that somehow seemed to overlap this dimension whilst being in its own space.

Everything was white but you could differentiate between flows despite the enormous volume and complexity of them (I realise that doesn't make sense :))

[Alanzo]

Is there an official release from youtube, or some sort of official coverage?

Another win for anon.

Do you realize what just happened here?

This has never happened that I know of.

Any time the Church has terrorized a website into taking something down, it has never come back up.

This is absolutely fantastic, Anon!!!!


Way to Go!!!
:happydance::happydance::happydance:

[Zinjifar]

Do you realize what just happened here?

This has never happened that I know of.

Any time the Church has terrorized a website into taking something down, it has never come back up.

This is absolutely fantastic, Anon!!!!


Way to Go!!!
:happydance::happydance::happydance:


That's not true actually. I can think of about 3 'DMCA Takedowns' that went through the whole process of filing the 'reply' and were quickly restored. For the most part 'free' sites, such as youtube etc. don't even bother going with the DMCA process or notifying the owner. Just knee-jerk 'takedown'.

Back a long time ago I had a Cafepress site with a Narconon is Scientology graphic that got a DMCA threat for *trademark* infringement,
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/Zinjifar/narc05.gif
which Cafepress was kind enough to discuss with me and which resulted in it staying. For a while :) Eventually they did take it down, but this time without bothering to tell me.

Now, as to this Youtube video; is it the *original* that was restored, or just one of the dozens of copies that end up getting posted from new accounts every time one gets 'taken down'?

Zinj

[Lovesnightsky]

There is a spiritual internet (it was part of the first Ascension Experience I had in the 2nd session in Scientology in 1961, I even called it the web - several others have observed this.) - as well as a mental internet - which may well be what monitors the physical universe internet.

It is a Lightside spiritual phenomena.

Uncontactable if you are continuosly running negative procedures.

Alan

Hey Alan!! I called it the Web too!!! WOW, you are the only other person who I've known to have seen this in this life time. It is totally awesome. Have you played with it? you can send messages via it, and also "tweak" it, "travel", heal people via it and all sorts of stuff.

[Curiosity]

That's not true actually. I can think of about 3 'DMCA Takedowns' that went through the whole process of filing the 'reply' and were quickly restored. For the most part 'free' sites, such as youtube etc. don't even bother going with the DMCA process or notifying the owner. Just knee-jerk 'takedown'.

Back a long time ago I had a Cafepress site with a Narconon is Scientology graphic that got a DMCA threat for *trademark* infringement,
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/Zinjifar/narc05.gif
which Cafepress was kind enough to discuss with me and which resulted in it staying. For a while :) Eventually they did take it down, but this time without bothering to tell me.

Now, as to this Youtube video; is it the *original* that was restored, or just one of the dozens of copies that end up getting posted from new accounts every time one gets 'taken down'?

Zinj

It seems to be the original one, with over 2 million views. However, now, they're stopping any Anonymous-related videos 1 second short of their completion, possibly to keep them from gaining official viewings and making the front page of the website. I noticed today that it is the same with Voiceless videos. Whatever...at least they're allowing them to be seen. :yes:

[Poofy]

It seems to be the original one, with over 2 million views. However, now, they're stopping any Anonymous-related videos 1 second short of their completion, possibly to keep them from gaining official viewings and making the front page of the website. I noticed today that it is the same with Voiceless videos. Whatever...at least they're allowing them to be seen. :yes:

They are having difficulties keeping up since the first flood on 2/10 and the later one with the takedown. When anonymous spoke with YouTube they were kind and professional and fixed the issue quickly. Right now they are having a number of server problems related to the amount of traffic.

The 1 second thing is a bug caused by AVI/WMV-formatted videos they are working on fixing. No conspiracy from YouTube.

[Curiosity]

Darn...I love a good conspiracy. :overanalyser:

[Zinjifar]

Darn...I love a good conspiracy. :overanalyser:

They have the best 'rides'. I get all my Black Helicopters from Milo's Low Mileage Choppers, they get them straight from NSA.

Zinj