Freeloaders Unite! You Have nothing to loose but your....nothing. Ha.

[neiljung]

How about you work out how many hours (at least at minimum wage) you are owed for your work in the church?

If you had a skill that gained them X$ per hour then why didn't you get that money for your hard earned skill?

Forget "freeloaders debt". How much do they owe you?

Sue for it.

Class action, individual case, just ripped off? Sue.

Overwhelm and subsume.

[Bea Kiddo]

How can anyone have a case for that? (Not disagreeing. I am genuinely asking from having been in the SO for 17 years).

Are they supposed to pay minimum wage? What is the law on that?

Isnt a church exempt from that?

And what about the fact that they provide food and housing? Is that related at all?

I am not trying to protect them or anything. I am trying to be real.

Just curious.

[Snuffy]

All staff sign a contract with a clause in it about how you understand you are working for the spiritual gain of mankind and not for monetary gain, and thus that you do not expect to recieve anything beyond the level of pocket-money for your services.

I'm sure there's something like that in SO contracts as well.

What amazes me is that I went right ahead and signed the damn thing! :duh:

[Tanstaafl]

All staff sign a contract with a clause in it about how you understand you are working for the spiritual gain of mankind and not for monetary gain, and thus that you do not expect to recieve anything beyond the level of pocket-money for your services.

I'm sure there's something like that in SO contracts as well.

What amazes me is that I went right ahead and signed the damn thing! :duh:

Have you noticed how the normal vigilance in checking for MUs is absent when signing staff contracts? :whistling:

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

Have you noticed how the normal vigilance in checking for MUs is absent when signing staff contracts? :whistling:

YOU SIGNED IT AFTER THEY LIED TO YOU!!!

[Tanstaafl]

YOU SIGNED IT AFTER THEY LIED TO YOU!!!

Surely not Colleen! :omg:

They told me I'd take home £100 per week (if I ever got home that is)
and that I'd co-audit to Clear in three months. Oh, wait a minute.................:duh:

[Marie]

You know, I never recieved a freeloader bill...

I wouldnt of paid it, but I was never contacted regarding paying it :omg: ...

I did OEC/FEBC, some auditing (the very little I did get), staff statuses, student hat, and others (EPF, etc) I figured once it was about $65K...

I think they forgot about me, but that's ok..:thumbsup:

[Marie]

Surely not Colleen! :omg:

They told me I'd take home £100 per week (if I ever got home that is)
and that I'd co-audit to Clear in three months. Oh, wait a minute.................:duh:

Yeah, they told me I would make up for the $200 per week I was making, easy... (when I went to LADay)... In the SO I made $30 - $35 per week ( more then most staff, hazard pay for finance - when I was purser (treas sec??)...:D ), but I happily signed anyway:duh: :duh:

[Tanstaafl]

Yeah, they told me I would make up for the $200 per week I was making, easy... (when I went to LADay)... In the SO I made $30 - $35 per week ( more then most staff, hazard pay for finance - when I was purser...:D ), but I happily signed anyway:duh: :duh:

I wasn't going to sign; I was pretty BIs when I saw the word Church (The org only had HDF signs up and HDF stationery). A guy I'd recently met and who later became my best buddy assured me it was okay and I signed.

I paid him back later when he told me he was gonna blow Flag but he didn't because he didn't want to lose our comm line. With friends like these.............:duh:

[Giuseppe]

You know, I never recieved a freeloader bill...

I wouldnt of paid it, but I was never contacted regarding paying it :omg: ...

I did OEC/FEBC, some auditing (the very little I did get), staff statuses, student hat, and others (EPF, etc) I figured once it was about $65K...

I think they forgot about me, but that's ok..:thumbsup:

If you are interested, you have to reach to them.

Giuseppe was pressure into pay the FL debt. It was between US$5k, US10k$ so I was able to stall for 'FL Giuseppe gotta pay this first before Giuseppe can buy the book, or take the course, or get the audit, or or or or or...', but then Giuseppe was purchase KTL/LOC for gift and has to pay it now before taked the KTL.

Giuseppe would be happy to not have paid it ever. It was a great excuse for not being at the org all the fucking time. "Oh, yeah, sorry, Giuseppe have FL bill to pay the first - buh-bye. Yeah, BUH BYE! [click]".

[Marie]

Not really interested enough to find out what it is, but come to think of it might only be 20% - or nothing (at that time they subtracted 20% for every year and reset every 5 – for the 5 year contracts even in the SO – this must have been right after I left)… They changed that, now you owe in total everything you did from start of SO to leaving. My brother’s is probably huge (at least $250,000)…

That irked me, so no exchange – not just under exchange…

[grundy]

Not really interested enough to find out what it is, but come to think of it might only be 20% - or nothing (at that time they subtracted 20% for every year and reset every 5 – for the 5 year contracts even in the SO – this must have been right after I left)… They changed that, now you owe in total everything you did from start of SO to leaving. My brother’s is probably huge (at least $250,000)…

That irked me, so no exchange – not just under exchange…

less than 200,000 ... more than 100,000 .. maybe under 100,000 because I heard something about sec checks not being included in the FL bill.

Definately over 50,000

That makes it almost impossible to pay. The FB (fitness board) (you have to have a FB when you route out) says you have to pay before you rejoin. If you rejoin however, cswing to not have to pay, they usually let you. So if you want to move up the bridge, you have to ..... get the picture?

[Terril park]

less than 200,000 ... more than 100,000 .. maybe under 100,000 because I heard something about sec checks not being included in the FL bill.

Definately over 50,000

That makes it almost impossible to pay. The FB (fitness board) (you have to have a FB when you route out) says you have to pay before you rejoin. If you rejoin however, cswing to not have to pay, they usually let you. So if you want to move up the bridge, you have to ..... get the picture?

The FZ can help you with that. :)