Org Mailing Lists

[Dulloldfart]

I have seen so many stories of people who find it next to impossible to get off org mailing lists, as well as many, many reports of duplicate, triplicate mailings for people who have been dead ten years and so on.

There are probably tens or even hundreds of thousands of people who are tired of it but don't want to personally cause a lot of fuss over it.

So, new plan for the 21st Century:

Save up a week's or a month's mailings, spread them out over the kitchen table, and video them with appropriate commentary. Put the video on YouTube. Dozens of separate videos in the same vein will hopefully make such a huge PR flap that change might just occur.

Should be fun if nothing else. :)

Paul

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

I have seen so many stories of people who find it next to impossible to get off org mailing lists, as well as many, many reports of duplicate, triplicate mailings for people who have been dead ten years and so on.

There are probably tens or even hundreds of thousands of people who are tired of it but don't want to personally cause a lot of fuss over it.

So, new plan for the 21st Century:

Save up a week's or a month's mailings, spread them out over the kitchen table, and video them with appropriate commentary. Put the video on YouTube. Dozens of separate videos in the same vein will hopefully make such a huge PR flap that change might just occur.

Should be fun if nothing else. :)

Paul


Great idea, and a good reason to purchase a video camera.

[Alanzo]

I have seen so many stories of people who find it next to impossible to get off org mailing lists, as well as many, many reports of duplicate, triplicate mailings for people who have been dead ten years and so on.

There are probably tens or even hundreds of thousands of people who are tired of it but don't want to personally cause a lot of fuss over it.

So, new plan for the 21st Century:

Save up a week's or a month's mailings, spread them out over the kitchen table, and video them with appropriate commentary. Put the video on YouTube. Dozens of separate videos in the same vein will hopefully make such a huge PR flap that change might just occur.

Should be fun if nothing else. :)

Paul

Great idea!!

Makes me wish I never threatened them with a call to the Attorney General of California!

[Dulloldfart]

Great idea, and a good reason to purchase a video camera.

A web cam would work too. Then you could Skype Alanzo. :)

Paul

[barky]

Wouldn't it be cool to get a hold of their mailing lists, and use them to recruit more "formers" and get them on our side of the fence?

Or at the very least send them funny greeting cards or something to make up for the drudgery of junk mail. :p

[Giuseppe]

Wouldn't it be cool to get a hold of their mailing lists, and use them to recruit more "formers" and get them on our side of the fence?

Or at the very least send them funny greeting cards or something to make up for the drudgery of junk mail. :p

Giuseppe has an :idea2: idea!

Put so many peoples into CF they don't know what to do! :dizzy:
:outtahere: :thewave: :thewave: :thewave: :thewave:

Purchase mail list to mail list store. Take the flyout from a Scn book or Dianetica, make thousands thousand copies. Fill in with those mail list peoples, request more info.:omg:

After a while, Co$ CF contain to cancer/virus to CF, address the people thousand, waste thousand euros print to those cost! :thumbsup:

Mail cost too rise up and attack!:grouch:

Giuseppe didn't do it, those peoples are because news is Co$!, Media maked the people interest, want to take personality test and get regged to join SO!:yes:

Side effect is to real peoples mad at Co$ for send too much mail!:argue: Get all planet on mailto list! Let the people of earth try to get off the list, the peoples will FAIL and mad to co$!:boxing:

[chipgallo]

CF only gets the name after they buy a book or intro service. Money must change hands.

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

CF only gets the name after they buy a book or intro service. Money must change hands.


You mean they absolutely do not purchase mailing lists to advertise to?

[Giuseppe]

CF only gets the name after they buy a book or intro service. Money must change hands.

Giuseppe have put in $.02 already, and Giuseppe says we can give them 'a nickel ' to make a positive flow to the account of 'services me', for each people on mailing listing.

[chipgallo]

Oh yes, orgs buy mailing lists. They just don't automatically input them into CF. Central Files are tagged as bookbuyers, trained & processed and other categories. Raw mailing lists (when I was on staff) were sent basic literature like basic book promo.

[Terril park]

A web cam would work too. Then you could Skype Alanzo. :)

Paul

No doubt Alanzo would love to skype the beautiful Colleen on
webcam. But expose her to Mr Evil?

Moderator we may potentially have a damsel in distress here.

[Bea Kiddo]

You mean they absolutely do not purchase mailing lists to advertise to?

They buy mailing lists from other orgs. They dont buy non-Scn mailing lists, like general public.

To increase their CF, they can buy the CF from other orgs.

That may be why you get mailings from so many different places, and places you never bought a book or any service from.

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My brother stupidly bought an extension course for my great aunt and I guess gave her address and they started pounding her with tons of Scientology mail. She was embarrased and confused by it all and tried and tried to get off their mailing list. She knows nothing about Scn really and is not interested. She finally wrote a letter to Heber asking off the mailing list. I dont know if she finally got off or not.

[neiljung]

My mum managed to get off the mailing list. Eventually. Don't know what she said, but she phoned them in the end because she was so pissed off.

That was the Edinburgh org. May not work with all orgs. She hasn't had a scientology mailing for about fifteen years.

[Dulloldfart]

They buy mailing lists from other orgs. They dont buy non-Scn mailing lists, like general public.

To increase their CF, they can buy the CF from other orgs.

That may be why you get mailings from so many different places, and places you never bought a book or any service from.


Really? That violates a basic Div 2 policy, the one talking about something like "I wouldn't give another org the time of day if I had the address". Had ""Sioux Falls" in there too.

I know that lower orgs have to provide copies of their address lists to higher orgs, i.e. London Org would give their T&P (not bookbuyer) addresso to AOSHUK. All orgs were supposed to send their lists to Dissem FB, who maintained (may be the wrong word!) a worldwide T&P list, weeding out duplicates supposedly as the same person might be on two or more local orgs' list. But that was done as a matter of policy, not as a financial business deal.

When I was a letter reg as SH in the 70s I used to dictate 1500 letters a week, and several hundred of them were to people in Australia and New Zealand who had done nothing more than an introductory comm course. The idea was to channel them through services at their local org (i.e. up to Class IV and Grade IV) and then over to SH for higher level goodies.

Paul

[Bea Kiddo]

Paul - There is a policy about it. If you have OEC Vol 6 or 2, not sure which, you can dig it up. CCI was buying mailing lists weekly to stay SH size.

(That right there may be part of why they claim millions of members.... they are copies... but somewhere LRH says to do that)

[Dulloldfart]

Paul - There is a policy about it. If you have OEC Vol 6 or 2, not sure which, you can dig it up. CCI was buying mailing lists weekly to stay SH size.

(That right there may be part of why they claim millions of members.... they are copies... but somewhere LRH says to do that)

I'll let Terril find it--he's an FEBC. :)

Paul