What overt has LRH, DM, OSA, Scientology or a Scientology staff member done to you?

[Alan]

What overt has LRH, DM, OSA, Scientology or a Scientology staff member done to you?

LRH and all his subsequent creations are based on an ALL CAUSE – NO EFFECT (unwilling to experience) viewpoint and operating basis.

All of his slaves, minions and clones are created from this matrix.

This is a one way flow –a flow will always seeks balance – a flow going in one direction too long will reverse.

Stemming from this abusive operating basis, millions of wrong items have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And the correct items have been invalidated.

Millions of wrong why’s have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And the correct why’s have been invalidated.


Millions of false overt acts have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.


Millions of false withholds have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.

Millions of false processing and training actions have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.

Millions of incorrect set-ups have been have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.

I could go on – but you get the idea :)

Alan

[Div6]

Wasn't something like that on the "EFfects of a RockSlammer list" that Mayo supposedly was busted for running on himself?


Seems like someone wants to enforce and dramatize "wrong whys".

Thats how you keep the down and out out and down.

[Kathy (ImOut)]

Thank you for this post, Alan.

The answer is too many to mention. That was my recent realization - a whopper of an overt committed on me. And it's still being dramatized. Or it was. I gave the command to just knock it off - I'm over it, you need to get over it.

All has seemed good for the last week or so.:happydance:

[DartSmohen]

In the 1950's Hubbard, being the serial womaniser he was, tried it on with my mother at our house one day. She resisted and he became angry.:omg:

Unfortunately for Hubbard my grandfather was in the house. He walked in, picked Hubbard up by the shirt front, marched him to the front door, smacked him in the eye and threw him down the path. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Like most bullies, Hubbard was a craven coward. He ran crying to his car and drove off.:melodramatic:

The next day he went into the org in Fitzroy Street with a black eye. When asked how he got it he told the staff that he had baan so exterior that he had walked into a door! They were soooooooo impressed!:puke: :puke:

Whilst my mother's partner (later my stepfather) was devoted to Hubbard, had he got wind of Hubbard's antics, he would have hospitalised him.:angry:

Hubbard was terrified that the story might come out and in propitiation gave my stepfather a two seater car as a gift.:bowdown: :bowdown:

My mother never said anything about it to anyone other than me ans asked me to keep silent about it.

Hubbard knew I knew. It was always a good card to have up my sleeve and there were a few times when Hubbard stepped in to mitigate some ethics action against me.:wink2:

[Alan]

ETHICS RTC

BFG


February 20, 2008

CC: COB RTC RTC REPORTS OFF
TECH REPORTS OFF RTC
BFG ETHICS FOLDER
C/O OSA INT


KNOWLEDGE REPORT

DAVE MISCAVIGE

RE: COB BEATING UP INT BASE STAFF MEMBERS

I have witnessed several instances of Dave Miscavige either beating up or pushing around Int Base staff members. This has gone on for many years and is not okay.

A specific instance of this follows:

At an event meeting in the Lower Lodges IMPR Conference Room, Dave Miscavige stood behind Marc Yager and Guillaume Lesevre as they were sitting at the conference room table. They had written a script for an event video and Dave was upset that it was not up to the quality that he wanted. While he was belittling them in front of the rest of the room, be leaned over and grabbed each of their heads with his respective hands and shoved their heads together so that their ears were being smashed together. He did so much that both Marc and Guillaume’s faces became very red. You could see the muscles on Dave’s arms flexing due to the amount of strength that he was exerting to do this.

After he let go, both Marc and Guillaume had tears coming from their eyes. They were obviously in great pain from this.

As soon as Dave Micavige was done he returned to the front of the room where his communicator was standing.

He then said that, "The only expansion that either Marc or Guillaume had ever caused was with their dicks in each other’s asshole."

He then said that he would re-write the video himself and left the meeting.

Guillaume had to go to the MO as his ear was bleeding a bit and he needed to have a bandage put on it.


This is true,

BFG

[Div6]

Its confirmed.

In Scientology the PRODUCT IS AN OVERT ACT.

[nw2394]

When my wife was on the ship (Freewinds ship - not the other one) in the early 90s doing KTL, when her stay came to an end they wouldn't let her leave or return her passport. I phoned the ship and had to tell them that they would be in the papers if they didn't let her go. Well, that seemed to make them listen and she made the flight home - but it was a nuisance having to use heavy ethics on them like that.

Nick

[duddins]

What overt has LRH, DM, OSA, Scientology or a Scientology staff member done to you?

LRH and all his subsequent creations are based on an ALL CAUSE – NO EFFECT (unwilling to experience) viewpoint and operating basis.

All of his slaves, minions and clones are created from this matrix.

This is a one way flow –a flow will always seeks balance – a flow going in one direction too long will reverse.

Stemming from this abusive operating basis, millions of wrong items have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And the correct items have been invalidated.

Millions of wrong why’s have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And the correct why’s have been invalidated.


Millions of false overt acts have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.


Millions of false withholds have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.

Millions of false processing and training actions have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.

Millions of incorrect set-ups have been have been incorrectly evaluated and enforced upon staff and public. And you, the staff and public have been invalidated.

I could go on – but you get the idea :)

Alan

Alan....thank you for this.

Idea is definitely taken......You do not exaggerate.

There are so many cases of running wrong items on this 3rd dynamic that it could fill volumes.

This board is full of them.....

Again thank you for bringing this up.:thumbsup:

[duddins]

Its confirmed.

In Scientology the PRODUCT IS AN OVERT ACT.


I have no shame in admitting that I, the Crasher of Continents, have officially declared it a SUPPRESSIVE GROUP which means that they are "the enemies of mankind and of all life."

[beyond_horizons]

In the 1950's Hubbard, being the serial womaniser he was, tried it on with my mother at our house one day. She resisted and he became angry.:omg:

Unfortunately for Hubbard my grandfather was in the house. He walked in, picked Hubbard up by the shirt front, marched him to the front door, smacked him in the eye and threw him down the path. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Like most bullies, Hubbard was a craven coward. He ran crying to his car and drove off.:melodramatic:

The next day he went into the org in Fitzroy Street with a black eye. When asked how he got it he told the staff that he had baan so exterior that he had walked into a door! They were soooooooo impressed!:puke: :puke:

Whilst my mother's partner (later my stepfather) was devoted to Hubbard, had he got wind of Hubbard's antics, he would have hospitalised him.:angry:

Hubbard was terrified that the story might come out and in propitiation gave my stepfather a two seater car as a gift.:bowdown: :bowdown:

My mother never said anything about it to anyone other than me ans asked me to keep silent about it.

Hubbard knew I knew. It was always a good card to have up my sleeve and there were a few times when Hubbard stepped in to mitigate some ethics action against me.:wink2:

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Ya gotta love this board!

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[tessa]

Thanks Allan .Would it be nice to mail this to all orgs and Missions?:coolwink: even telepathically.(you are out ethics ,you are pts )rang in my ears even after i left.Actually i left because of all that you mentioned and the outpoints i saw , i felt so misurderstood.:yes: Allan can you please elaborate on out Lists?I was given once a reference to read it in a session but i had so much charge to remember much of it. Thanks again tessa

[Idle Morgue]

I would like to indicate that we all have some bypassed gas on the overts the cult commits on everyone including themselves! :whistling:What a scam!:yes:

[Man de la Mancha]

KNOWLEDGE REPORT
RE: COB BEATING UP INT BASE STAFF MEMBERS

Is "COB" an actual tough guy or something? I mean, does he really know how to fight, or do these guys just take it because... I can't even think of a reason why. This is one of the truly baffling aspects of current Scientology to me. Why do they take the beatings? I was only in SO 2 years and that was 25 years ago, but noone I knew would actually have submitted to a beating. I never knew anyone who administered beatings either. Were there beatings in the mid-80s? At PAC?

[Div6]

Is "COB" an actual tough guy or something? I mean, does he really know how to fight, or do these guys just take it because... I can't even think of a reason why. This is one of the truly baffling aspects of current Scientology to me. Why do they take the beatings? I was only in SO 2 years and that was 25 years ago, but noone I knew would actually have submitted to a beating. I never knew anyone who administered beatings either. Were there beatings in the mid-80s? At PAC?

No, he is a craven coward. He travels with an "entourage" of big beefy guys, so you are always outnumbered. There are a number of posts about this around here somewhere....

[Man de la Mancha]

No, he is a craven coward. He travels with an "entourage" of big beefy guys, so you are always outnumbered. There are a number of posts about this around here somewhere....

They're only outnumbered if they're in the same location! It's as if they suffer from battered woman's syndrome. So they just go back on post all gung-ho with messed up hair and bleeding skulls? Could some of these stories be propoganda to water down actual occurances with lies? It just seems far fetched to me that this happens on a regualr basis, although there are various accounts suggesting that it may.

[DartSmohen]

Wasn't something like that on the "EFfects of a RockSlammer list" that Mayo supposedly was busted for running on himself?


Seems like someone wants to enforce and dramatize "wrong whys".

Thats how you keep the down and out out and down.

This was the reason why Otto Roos was got rid of.

He did a FES on Hubbards folders and found loads and loads of Rock Slams. MSH and Diana screamed at him accusing Otto of trying to "betray" Hubbard.

Otto told me that if he had called them S/R's (special reads) rather than R/S's , he would probably still be in.

Dart

[guanoloco]

This was the reason why Otto Roos was got rid of.

He did a FES on Hubbards folders and found loads and loads of Rock Slams. MSH and Diana screamed at him accusing Otto of trying to "betray" Hubbard.

Otto told me that if he had called them S/R's (special reads) rather than R/S's , he would probably still be in.

Dart

Dart, some time back I asked about Otto and the identity of "I" research in his story. Do you know anything about that or can you get Otto to comment here?

Thanks, guano