WHO'S WHO NOW?!?!

[Bea Kiddo]

Hey everyone. I am embarrassed. I have a big withhold. I am scared to say, because maybe someone will get mad. Or offended. Or something....


I am lost on who is who around here and who's story is who's. To me, we have a buncha cute youngsters coming out and telling their story. Am I right?

Some were uplines, some X-CMO, some twins, etc, etc.

As a C/S, I hardly ever could remember anyones name. Even at work I hire a new person and it takes a month to get the name right. I SUCK at names. And remembering who introduced themselves to me, very tough.

Its easier if I knew them personally. Not so hard for me to remember them.

But here online, sometimes it is tough for me to remember everyone. And who told their stories, and who hasnt.

Hope that is ok.

Am I alone in my ignorance? :nervous:

Can I be forgiven?

Can we have a party and all meet and then it will be easier!???:D

[Emma]

Don't feel bad. I have the same trouble but I'm SUPPOSED to remember!

I dunno about you but my brain is about filled to capacity! I need more RAM :)

[CarmeloOrchards]

It's called half heimers.

[Kathy (ImOut)]

Bea,

Don't worry about it. You won't be quizzed. At least I hope not. LOL!!! I will flunk the quiz.

There are lots of stories and without faces to go with all the "significance" of the stories, it can get lost.

If I talk to two people on the phone in one day, I'll forget who I said what to, or what they said to me. And these are people I KNOW, in person, and have known many years.

Refer to my Memory post. I think we just forget things.:wink2:

[Reasonable Lady]

You are so not alone. I have almost no idea who is who (or is it "whom", I know someone likes good grammer, but I don't recall who). And now there are a whole new bunch of avatars; more confusion! Don't get me started on gender neutral names. So no, you are not alone.
RL

[grundy]

Ahh, who remembers everyone?? lol

I know some people because I knew them before (bea included). But sometimes I forget who's who.

I pretty much make sure I remember these (other than people I only PM)
Emma - Da Boss, Da big Honch, DM of the ESMB, RTC for our corner of the world :p (but much nicer, more the way those idiots SHOULD be)
Alanzo - Helpful guy who reached his EP on the boards
Terrill - big FZ guy
Mark Baker - Same
Bea - Mentor to the recovering Scientologist
Zinj - Annoying dude who is particularly funny ;)
Grundy - idiot who has to talk his mouth off ....

[gomorrhan]

Well, that's why I make my signature so repetitive.

I was Class V org staffer in Treasury, assigned to work with SO mission to get records in order for audit by IRS, 1990, and briefly a Course Admin, all at the Boston Day org. Staff Status II, Exec Status I, untrained other than modern HQS and Ethics Specialist Course.

[Div6]

Are you offering to have a party out there in the cornfields of the US?

Might be a logistical nightmare. Do you think it wise we offer OSA an easy time to "tag" us all?

But I will say this....if/when the DeMented dwarf goes down, there will be cause for a huge ESMB blowout.....

All ethics actions cancelled, etc....

We can even spike the punch so no one is "SO eligible"....:)

[SeaOrgSlut]

I'm just me ~_~

[SentientBean]

It is very possible some of you are suffering from the same thing I am - it is called the Kelly Bundy effect. In order to learn something new, I have to forget something I already knew. Damn, what were we talking about?

[Mark A. Baker]

Terrill - big FZ guy
Mark Baker - Same


Trust me on this.

Terrill - big FZ guy
Mark Baker - little FZ guy

:)

I am not worthy. :notworthy:


Mark A. Baker

[SeaOrgSlut]

Freezone is awesome and doesn't afraid of medical science ~_~

[gomorrhan]

Trust me on this.

Terrill - big FZ guy
Mark Baker - little FZ guy

:)

I am not worthy. :notworthy:


Mark A. Baker
Don't sell yourself short, Mark. You have an encyclopaedic knowledge of a broad number of fields, and are an excellent debater. You say you're not a techie, but that's hard to believe, given some of the threads I've seen you contribute to. I don't know if you're an active auditor, but I don't think that means you don't know your chops.

BB/Terrill has long-standing clout in my book, and does a lot of very good work.

But don't sell yerself short.

[Mark A. Baker]

BB/Terrill has long-standing clout in my book, and does a lot of very good work.

Terrill has done a great deal of good in helping to establish the freezone & promote communication among freezoners and non-freezoners. He has been a key contributor in many important developments within freezone scientology. He is widely respected as a result of his efforts.



But don't sell yerself short.

Thank you for the praise.

I have a number of skills & achievements for which I am sometimes proud to the point of arrogance, but I make no claims to special knowledge as a tech person.

My time spent in scientology was at a place & time where the fundamentals of scientology were actually applied. When that changed, I left; I never had occasion to be confused by GoAT or other Miscavige "otherisms", although I freely admit to the influence of numerous other "otherisms" upon my thoughts. I have a fairly solid understanding of scientology basics and some knowledge of more "esoteric" aspects of scientology.

However, I am definitely NOT a techie and would not insult those who, having done the work, actually ARE techies by claiming for myself those special skills & knowledge which I lack.

I admire greatly ANYONE who has persisted to the point of becoming a professionally trained auditor, whether or not I agree with every viewpoint they may express. However you look at it, it is a significant accomplishment. :thumbsup:


Mark A. Baker

[grundy]

I'm just me ~_~

Nothing personal, but your screen name is distracting.

lol

(makes me wish I actually looked like my avatar :p)

[Emma]

I'm just me ~_~

Hi SOS! Welcome to the board.

I read your story on Enturb. I'm glad you are here.

[duddins]

Bea, I am with you on this. I have totally lost track of who is who.

I was just getting accustomed to the regulars when the flood gates opened.

Now ESMB is blessed with such a cast of characters as has never seen the light of day!

[Escalus]

I am lost on who is who around here and who's story is who's. To me, we have a buncha cute youngsters coming out and telling their story. Am I right?


I'm the old self-promoting not cute one who they woke up after a long sleep with the story that is no where near as compelling as yours who can do little more than give moral support to people just getting out and spark yelling matches with free zoners.

I am always up for a party I hope this helps and thank you very much. :)

[Terril park]

Don't sell yourself short, Mark. You have an encyclopaedic knowledge of a broad number of fields, and are an excellent debater. You say you're not a techie, but that's hard to believe, given some of the threads I've seen you contribute to. I don't know if you're an active auditor, but I don't think that means you don't know your chops.

But don't sell yerself short.

What he says in spades!

You explain things more elegantly and better than anyone I know, be it Scientology, the relationship of maths to physics or the history of the greeks and romans, or just about anything else. Your posts are a joy to read. :)

[nozeno]

Did anyone else notice that there have been a lot of people using their RL photos as avatars recently?

Congratulations. You all are showing some balls, or bullocks as our Brit friends like to say. Even though I've outed myself already, I still have reasons to remain somewhat anonymous. :hide:
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[Bea Kiddo]

Cool. Thanks guys. I think over time I will be able to see the difference in different people and stories. Its really cool how many people are coming out of the woodworks now!!

And I love you all!!!:yes:

[uncle sam]

Hey - Nozeno - whatca think on Emma's RL picture?

[Pliny Younger]

...When that changed, I left; I never had occasion to be confused by GoAT or other Miscavige "otherisms", although I freely admit to the influence of numerous other "otherisms" upon my thoughts...


Mark A. Baker

Mark,
What is GoAT? I have been out since 85 and have seen this a few times. Did a google on it, but got nothing. What is it? Anyone?

[Zinjifar]

Mark,
What is GoAT? I have been out since 85 and have seen this a few times. Did a google on it, but got nothing. What is it? Anyone?

I think it's usually referred to as GAT - Golden Age of Tech. Goat's just the atmospherics :)

Zinj

[Pliny Younger]

I think it's usually referred to as GAT - Golden Age of Tech. Goat's just the atmospherics :)

Zinj

Ok so it's just another repackaging of the 'tech'. I thought it was a new process or rundown. Same old, same old. they seemed to do that over the years. Thanks , Zinj

[johnAnchovie]

Arn't you both lovely? Emma, were you in Dissem FLO? sort of 1996 to 2001? If that be you, then I know thee well!!!! :omg:

[gomorrhan]

Nope, it's not just a repackaging, it's a change of emphasis in training. Lots more drills, lots more times through the drills. This is why new GAT auditors are frequently considered more robotic by old-timers, at least that's a bias I've detected. The idea is to make sure the auditors are rock solid in their certainty. It also gives a new reason to make old-time auditors pay more money to get their GAT certs.

[Wisened One]

Hey Bea:

Me and hubby were Div 6'ers at a Class V Org, just to remind you:)

I know what you mean about trying to remember everyone's name/story, the more that join the boards, the harder it gets.

[Emma]

Arn't you both lovely? Emma, were you in Dissem FLO? sort of 1996 to 2001? If that be you, then I know thee well!!!! :omg:

Hi John,

I was never Sea Org and never out of Melbourne Aus in my Scn career.

Must be thinking of someone else. :thumbsup:

[johnAnchovie]

There was, is, an Ozie lady called Emma at Dissemination Beuraux FLO, she was in CLO ANZO Sydney, in 1995 as Dissem Chief, got 'promoted' up to FLO. A lovely lady, I hope she is well, I hope she got out and back to civilization.

J.

[grundy]

Did anyone else notice that there have been a lot of people using their RL photos as avatars recently?

Congratulations. You all are showing some balls, or bullocks as our Brit friends like to say. Even though I've outed myself already, I still have reasons to remain somewhat anonymous. :hide:
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I commented on this to someone. I noticed the same thing. But I still have reason to be .. no anonymous ... so I am... in the ether ..

[Giuseppe]

But here online, sometimes it is tough for me to remember everyone. And who told their stories, and who hasnt.

Hope that is ok.

Am I alone in my ignorance? :nervous:

Giuseppe forgave you!:)

Giuseppe doesn't remember much of people and faces, but Giuseppe knows there are forgetful when catastrophe happen. Giuseppe have recent catastrophe, and Giuseppe forget lots of things.:nervous:

[gomorrhan]

Who are you, Bob Dole? "Bob Dole wouldn't do that"

Why don't you just say I, instead of always using your name? Is it a English as second language grammar thing?

[duddins]

I have been out and out with it for 6 months now and I have to say that I really don't fear the Suppressive Group called the Church of Scientology.

This board has been helping to free me from those considerations that held me in the shadows.

Today I told a collegue at work that I was going to protest the C of S and why. I said it with pride.

I realized that I have been cowering. I had always been afraid to admit to people on the outside that I had been involved with a cult. But it did not bother me in the least. I think I have transcended yet another step in my recovery. :sing: :sing: :sing: :giggle: :bow:

Bea, I also think that it is incredible that all of these new friends are with us. It is taking time to get used to everyone, but like you I am feeling lots of warm fuzzies!

:grouphug:

[duddins]

Who are you, Bob Dole? "Bob Dole wouldn't do that"

Why don't you just say I, instead of always using your name? Is it a English as second language grammar thing?

Hello gomorrhan,

I just wanted to say that I think that it is so cool with people using their own photos as their avitars and.........ah.....that is you right? I mean, I kinda thought you looked really familar.....did I meet you at a FOLO somewhere?

[johnAnchovie]

Good on you Duddins, that is a definite transition, a marker in your progress away from the malign influence of that awful group.

Be proud to be an ex scientologist!

[gomorrhan]

Hello gomorrhan,

I just wanted to say that I think that it is so cool with people using their own photos as their avitars and.........ah.....that is you right? I mean, I kinda thought you looked really familar.....did I meet you at a FOLO somewhere?
Lol, you like my Spock Avatar? I can put my pic back up, but frankly, I photograph badly: I always look either overly intense or angry. It's the eyebrows, I think. You might have met me at CLO EUS, I was there for about three months in 1989, working on a mission for the SO (as a donated Class V staff member, I wasn't SO) to get tax records in order. This was the sixth floor of the New York org at 46th street, I think, but I took my meals at CLO, which was a few blocks up, and did my training there, as well.

[duddins]

Lol, you like my Spock Avatar? I can put my pic back up, but frankly, I photograph badly: I always look either overly intense or angry. It's the eyebrows, I think. You might have met me at CLO EUS, I was there for about three months in 1989, working on a mission for the SO (as a donated Class V staff member, I wasn't SO) to get tax records in order. This was the sixth floor of the New York org at 46th street, I think, but I took my meals at CLO, which was a few blocks up, and did my training there, as well.

I am glad you got the joke there......I thought your joke about Bob Dole was pretty funny and was giving a come back of my own.

In truth you do look familiar. A bit later than my time however. I was in the SO from 1974 until 1984. The last 4 years were in FOLO Latam being the CO and the Crasher of Continents...as my title states. (:whistling:) actually my story is posted on a few earlier threads from back in October/November.

I did visit FOLO EUS in 78 or 79. Did you ever go to WUS or Clearwater? I did time in those places as well.

And yes...Spock is Vulcanlishious!:p

[gomorrhan]

I did go to Clearwater, but after your time there. I went there while declared. I went down to check it out. It was an act of rebellion. I went in with my wife and children, and we swam in the pool, hung out in the hot tub, and then I went up to the Ethics area (I think it was fourth floor, but I could be wrong) of the Ft. Harrison, and tried to apply for the Amnesty (this was 1993). They informed me that people who were declared didn't qualify for the Amnesty. So, I left, and went over to check out the Sandcastle, and then loaded up the car, and we went home. That was my only experience of FLAG. Nice pool. Nice tub. Bad security. No, I was never in WUS.

[duddins]

Good on you Duddins, that is a definite transition, a marker in your progress away from the malign influence of that awful group.

Be proud to be an ex scientologist!

It has taken time to get to this John. I had good reason to fear....but I think that those days are over. Largely because of Message Boards like this one. We are no longer alone with this problem. We have each other.

I have gained tremendously by reading the stories of others and sharing my own. The reign of terror over my life is over. When I posted "My Own Declarations" I think that I offloaded a ton of charge.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=4463

Thankfully there are people here like you to encourage and validate freedom!

:happydance: :happydance: :happydance:

[duddins]

I did go to Clearwater, but after your time there. I went there while declared. I went down to check it out. It was an act of rebellion. I went in with my wife and children, and we swam in the pool, hung out in the hot tub, and then I went up to the Ethics area (I think it was fourth floor, but I could be wrong) of the Ft. Harrison, and tried to apply for the Amnesty (this was 1993). They informed me that people who were declared didn't qualify for the Amnesty. So, I left, and went over to check out the Sandcastle, and then loaded up the car, and we went home. That was my only experience of FLAG. Nice pool. Nice tub. Bad security. No, I was never in WUS.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Good story!

You reminded me of the time I was hanging out at Flag on a CMO mission and I ended up with a room (alone) at the Sandcastle for several weeks while the mission was on hold. It was like a big vacation hanging out by the pool and all doing virtually nothing. For an SO member accustomed to 23/7 work weeks and living in cramped dorm rooms with bed bugs, it was frigging terrific!

I felt so guilty hanging out there like a VIP.........well perhaps I did not feel all that guilty. :whistling:

Finally someone needed me for another mission and the moment ended. Alas.

[Flyonthewall]

I worked on the reno's of Freewinds before the maiden voyage. This was before I joined the Sea Org. They did my laundry, and I ate in their restaurant as they were working on trying to achieve some sort of rating. (the food was excellent) I got every Sat off and went snorkeling, gambling, drinking, basically having a great time for a 23 year old. Plus they paid me great money at the time for this...I repeated this on the HGB in LA...and then at St Hill before joining the SO. Stupid me...but it wasn't me I swear...it was the kool-aid.

I'm so glad to be out and reading this and other websites keep reminding me. My father told me about LRH's saying about a million bucks before getting involved and I still did it. Thank God, I had a family who gave me grace and took me in after 9 years of bs.

[sandygirl]

Hi

I'm just low man on the totem pole-ex-public. I was raised in the church (both parents and siblings still in). Some family was on staff and some still are! Although I haven't lived it first hand I am familar with the demands of SO and staff. I have kids in my family that were sent to SO in the middle of a ____ (fill in the blank) nite. I think about them every day and wonder if they are ok.

I think most of the people on this board are amazing!!

[grundy]

Hi

I'm just low man on the totem pole-ex-public. I was raised in the church (both parents and siblings still in). Some family was on staff and some still are! Although I haven't lived it first hand I am familar with the demands of SO and staff. I have kids in my family that were sent to SO in the middle of a ____ (fill in the blank) nite. I think about them every day and wonder if they are ok.

I think most of the people on this board are amazing!!

Sandygirl, are you also on ESK? They'd probably like have another viewpoint over deah

[sandygirl]

Thinking about it........

Hope you guys aren't trying to get rid of me!:no:

[Zinjifar]

Thinking about it........

Hope you guys aren't trying to get rid of me!:no:

No way. The more the merrier.

Zinj:party:

[ChaoticPsychotic]

I'm the gun toting, crazy-ranting pissed off $cn hating ex SO member...

Oh and I frequently ooze sarcasm. :p

And I have to take credit for coming out of hiding and starting the RL Avatar thing...:happydance:

[grundy]

Thinking about it........

Hope you guys aren't trying to get rid of me!:no:

ABSOLUTEY NOT!

I'm still here and there .... trading time between the two.

I wasn't the first, but I was early on the other forums. Progressing on the Bridge to Total Status here, and the Bridge to Total SP there ....

Damn it's a lot of work ....:hamster: :coffee:

But it's fun :p