Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes prepare to separate, claim

[Free to shine]

From Australian Herald Sun

UNABLE to cope with the pressure of her marriage to Tom Cruise, it is being reported in the US that Katie Holmes is seeking a trial separation from her husband.

The former Dawsons Creek actress is said to be crushed by the weight of her marriage to the Top Gun star, and plans to take their daughter, Suri, with her to New York City, reports Star magazine.

But Cruise is reportedly against her plans.

The news of a trial separation comes after reports in the UK's Daily Mail stated that Cruise wanted Holmes to stay away from one of her few gal pals in Hollywood - Victoria Beckham, because the negative effect their friendship was having on his wife's attitude to her own body.

Star magazine also claims that Holmes, 29, is trying to break away from her controlled life under the watchful eyes of her husband and move to Manhattan in what will be a sort of trial separation.

A source told the publication: "She desperately needs to be on her own for a while, but there's no way Tom is going to let her take Suri away."

"There's no way he'll allow it.

"He just doesn't want Katie or Suri out of his sight for long.

"He told her that if she goes to New York, fine, but he goes with her."

It is understood the couple's tug of war over their daughter has intensified.

The news of a separation comes as TV star Jason Beghe who is reportedly friends with Cruise, has slammed the Church of Scientology in a rant released on YouTube.


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23553344-5012974,00.html

[Free to shine]

Glossips take on the story:

http://glosslip.com/2008/04/16/tomkat-trouble-who-will-get-suri-if-tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorce/

[anon_kat]

Oh wow! I hope this is true!! Katie Holmes was looking so downtrodden since hooking up with TC.
Yay!! :happydance:

[olska]

By now the big wigs in scientology are DESPERATE to find the "SP" on Cruise's case that is responsible for his career taking it's long-running dive into him becoming a laughingstock and nationwide subject of ridicule.

I'm guessing that first Cruise, and now Katie, are in pts handling session after session after session to find out WHY Cruise's career stats are down, down, down ever since he "hooked up" with Katie. Coincidence of events would eventually lead to Katie (or someone close to her) as the WHY of Cruise's PTSness.

(It couldn't be Cruise's "fault" because he's the good guy, the white hat, you know how it goes...)

So first she's disconnected from the entire world (all those SP influences that were hanging around her before they got together) -- but things got worse, not better. Now she's looking wan and having fainting spells and stuff, as though she's under tremendous pressure.

Whaddaya wanna bet she's in "handlings" that are, more and more, pointed at HER as actual SP! Katie dear, what are your crimes!!!

He'll disconnect, she'll be blamed for all Cruise's current troubles. And since "the tech" never fails, Cruise's career will make a miraculous recovery. Yeah, right.

[Dulloldfart]

That would be real tough re Suri. I wonder if the pre-nup agreement covered child custody arrangements in any detail.

Of course, the ideal solution would be for TC to see the light and dump the CofS too, then everybody wins. :)

Paul

[Free to shine]

At this point we can't know if this media is true, but judging simply by some of the photos of them, I would say it's a real possibility. The articles on TC disapproving of Posh as responsible for the changes in Katie are pretty plainly "PTS handlings".

If it's the right thing for her, I hope she gains strength from Jason's exit and can do the same.

[gomorrhan]

Cruise's career is just fine. I doubt there are many more stars in Hollywood that have made as much or more money, and he's also been lucky enough to have a lot of great scripts, and therefore made a number of wonderful movies (of course taste differs, but people who didn't like Vanilla Sky really surprise me).

People hate him personally, I understand, for comments he's made and for his support of the Church of Scientology, but I don't really get why this hatred blinds people to the actual facts: he's a very, very successful actor, and a moderately successful director. I'm glad if Katie leaves the Church, for her sake and her child's, but I don't wish her and Tom any unhappiness.

My own bet is that regardless of what happens with Katie and Suri, Tom will continue to make blockbuster movies.

[DartSmohen]

At this point we can't know if this media is true, but judging simply by some of the photos of them, I would say it's a real possibility. The articles on TC disapproving of Posh as responsible for the changes in Katie are pretty plainly "PTS handlings".

If it's the right thing for her, I hope she gains strength from Jason's exit and can do the same.

I wonder if the Scilons are building a replacement wife for TC to woo, once Katie collects on her prenuptual settlement.
:whistling: :whistling: :yes: :yes: :eyeroll:

[chipgallo]

Kevin, assuming you meant Producer rather than Director, his credits in this area are usually in conjunction with his producing partner, Ms. Wagner, whose husband is a big dog at the talent agency. Wondering how much of that producing success was his skill and how much was Jane's, along with her husband's connections?

Otherwise, wtf has he directed?

[Div6]

By now the big wigs in scientology are DESPERATE to find the "SP" on Cruise's case that is responsible for his career taking it's long-running dive into him becoming a laughingstock and nationwide subject of ridicule.

I'm guessing that first Cruise, and now Katie, are in pts handling session after session after session to find out WHY Cruise's career stats are down, down, down ever since he "hooked up" with Katie. Coincidence of events would eventually lead to Katie (or someone close to her) as the WHY of Cruise's PTSness.

(It couldn't be Cruise's "fault" because he's the good guy, the white hat, you know how it goes...)

So first she's disconnected from the entire world (all those SP influences that were hanging around her before they got together) -- but things got worse, not better. Now she's looking wan and having fainting spells and stuff, as though she's under tremendous pressure.

Whaddaya wanna bet she's in "handlings" that are, more and more, pointed at HER as actual SP! Katie dear, what are your crimes!!!

He'll disconnect, she'll be blamed for all Cruise's current troubles. And since "the tech" never fails, Cruise's career will make a miraculous recovery. Yeah, right.

It's obvious to the world that DM is the SP on his case. But that item is "not accepted" as an item as "you can't be PTS to people of good intentions".

Too bad.

Dis-connecting from the CORRECT SP could save their marriage.....

[gomorrhan]

Oops, you're right. I meant produced. And, again, I said he was mediocre at this part. He's a better actor, or perhaps better "leading man". Women used to fall over themselves about him. He's older now. I don't know if he continues to have that effect. I liked him in "A Few Good Men", and I really liked him in "Vanilla Sky". Of course, I liked him back in the days of "Risky Business". I didn't like Top Gun, but that was more the subject matter than the acting. I don't consider him the best actor around, but he carries whatever role he's given. I thought he was wonderful in the vampyre movie. Pitt was better. Pitt is a better actor in general, though.

[CarmeloOrchards]

Sumner Redstone fired TC from Paramount because of TC's bad publicity for the movie Mi3. Being fired from the studio, where you've worked for decades, by one of the more powerful figures in Hollywood, is not something that you want on your resume.

[gomorrhan]

Oh, he's hit the skids, recently, but Travolta did the same thing, and is now "back". Tom may or may not ever come "back", but regardless, he's made of money. I doubt he's too worried about it.

[GreyLensman]

I loved Tom Cruise in "Risky Business", I loved "Top Gun" but mostly because Val Kilmer was in it (anyone remember "Real Genius"). The Mission:Impossible movies have been pretty damn good.

Vanilla SKy is one of the best movies ever.

But I didn't care for Tom Cruise as a person after he left Nicole Kidman - what f**king idiot leaves Nicole Kidman? This guy obviously has serious issues determining what he should have in life. I mean, what a moron...

[Good twin]

How many exwives would you need to file a class action suit against TC? :whistling:

[Alan]

How many exwives would you need to file a class action suit against TC? :whistling:



:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

[Good twin]

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

I wasn't kidding!

[Dulloldfart]

How many exwives would you need to file a class action suit against TC? :whistling:

It sounds like one of those "How many Scientologists does it take to screw in a light-bulb?" jokes.

Let's see....

How many ex-wives would it take to screw....

Paul

[Good twin]

It sounds like one of those "How many Scientologists does it take to screw in a light-bulb?" jokes.

Let's see....

How many ex-wives would it take to screw....

Paul

Exactly!:thumbsup:

[Tom of Helatrobus]

I can imagine what Katie is going through - Scientology marriage counciling. And you know what that means; pulling overts and withholds. She gets dragged down to the a session room, holds the cans and has an auditor ask her what overts and withholds she has on Tom. Of course, everyone assumes that they exist- of course, Katie doesn't have any and wonders why no one understands how she is suffocating.

My prediction is Katie will start to think, "What kind of thought control bullshit is this?" :unsure: Could Katie Holmes be the next Jason Beghe?

Tom

[gomorrhan]

She ain't the next Ken Ogger, I'll tell you that.

[sandygirl]

I don't know if that poor girl knows what she's up against! We KNOW how a bunch of desparate scinos. can twist things around and she doesn't look that strong enough to me to endure a "heavy ethics cycle"!

If she is smart she won't go near a church and will RUN to her family!!

PS-I've known people who have gone through "marriage counseling" and divorced afterwards! Another example of 100% workable "tech".

Also saw a brief interview with TC from 10 years ago-he was natural and pretty sweet. A big contrast from the glazed eye robot he's become!

[OHTEEATE]

Dad is an attorney who saw this breakup coming a mile away. He got her a VERY good prenuptual agreement, and her "I wanna marry Tom Cruise someday" fling is now over and she can get on with her career, with a whole bunch of TC cash in her pocket.
Kinda funny how similar this is to Kelly Preston and her crush on John Travolta, and it's apparently working out for them. I think JT is much less controlling.

[sandygirl]

Well we called this one!!!
http://www.starmagazine.com/scientology_boot_camp_katie_holmes/news/14134

Katie I told you to run as fast as you could!

These "ethics" cycles may be the end of her tolerance for TC!!!!!

[Free to shine]

Well we called this one!!!
http://www.starmagazine.com/scientology_boot_camp_katie_holmes/news/14134

Katie I told you to run as fast as you could!

These "ethics" cycles may be the end of her tolerance for TC!!!!!

Here's the text - and check out the photo! :omg:
------------------------------

After two failed marriages, Tom Cruise went to a lot of trouble to find the perfect Scientology wife — and he's determined to make sure Katie Holmes maintains that position, even if it means she has to do time in a rigorous church boot camp!

In the new issue of Star, we report exclusively on how Katie was recently secluded for three days at Gold Base, the remote, supersecret Scientology compound in Hemet, Calif., where she was put through a demanding schedule.

"It included various tests, confession sessions, tons of reading and physically challenging purification processes," a Scientology insider reveals. "Tom insists that auditing and purification practices are incredibly beneficial to Scientologists at all levels."

Katie's intensive Scientology training and treatments have been accelerated in recent weeks, says another source, because she wanted to go to New York City without Tom to star in a Broadway play. But Tom stepped in and put the kibosh on her plans. And now Katie's been going in for a series of intensive auditing sessions, some which have lasted for 36 hours straight — with little sleep or food.

The controversial religion's practices have been shrouded in mystery for years. But with the defection of Cane actor Jason Beghe, more information about the church — which counts John Travolta, Kirstie Alley and Leah Remini among its members — has become public. Read all about these new findings — from the grueling auditing sessions to "personal spiritual counseling," where members are hooked up to a lie-detector-like device called an E-meter and bombarded with the most personal of questions — in the new issue of Star, which is on newsstands today.

[Kathy (ImOut)]

36 hours straight in session - isn't that a violation of the auditors code?

They've now probably PDH'd her and she'll be the "Stepford Wife" TC has always wanted.

[Tom of Helatrobus]

As much as TC and DM would like to keep her in a "theta" enviornment, they have to let her out some time. They have to let her talk to her parents and to wogs. They might have convinced her into believing that SHE has the problem for now or maybe she's just playing along, like one has to do in those situations. My guess is that it won't be long now.... one way or another.

[knn]

As much as TC and DM would like to keep her in a "theta" enviornment, they have to let her out some time. They have to let her talk to her parents and to wogs.

I think that is the crowbar to wake up Tom Cruise: The parents of Katie Holmes.

Anonymous should run some demos at the places where Katie's parents are located.

I think Tom won't leave Katie so fast. 1) he likes her too much 2) they have child 3) he would look like a complete fool 4) it's out PR.

Katie won't stop communicating with her parents so the parents of Katie ARE A MESSAGE TRANSPORTER TO CRUISE.

[British Mom]

Oh wow! I hope this is true!! Katie Holmes was looking so downtrodden since hooking up with TC.
Yay!! :happydance:

Me Too :coolwink: If he goes PTS he will have to disconnect :yes: then he can experience what alot of ex's have gone through :woohoo: Good, his Karma is coming :devil:

[Dulloldfart]

If he goes PTS he will have to disconnect :yes:

But TC wouldn't have to disconnect, would he? Because he is TC.

Paul

[Tiger Lily]

But TC wouldn't have to disconnect, would he? Because he is TC.

Paul

That's what I would expect (would be out-PR to make TC disconnect); but isn't that what happened with Nicole Kidman? It sure looked like disconnection to me. I remember reading where he said "Nic knows what she did" in response to a question from a reporter about why they were getting divorced.

-TL

[Blue Spirit]

I agree with "Div 6" that D.M. is the real SP on the line and Tom Cruise is so
very very PTS to that that he is blind beyond hope, not like Jason Beghe who
finally could wakeup and LOOK and SEE.

Although Tom isn't an SP he is in a dominating valence that is desrtuctive, particularly to a sensitive lady like Katie. I saw a photo of her a long time ago that clearly showed the unreality of what she got herself into on her face. I knew with certainty then that the marriage was doomed.
So the bottom line is Katie is trapped in a VERY PTS scene that is not allowing her natural self TO BE !

Until Tom gets out of this chain of supression and the dominating valence of D.M. and these arranged by the Church marriages he has no chance of making ANY marriage work !
He is in some weird valence that he has no clue to himself although it must have parts of D.M. in it.

Whatever happened to actors like Jimmy Stewart who was loved because he was just naturally himself ??

Anyway having D.M. as a good friend rather dooms one as far as a future and
knowing oneself or being oneself.
That's my viewpoint.

[Sassy]

It seems so hot & cold for Tom & Katie. You'll see pictures of them where Katie looks like a Stepford Wife, stunned almost; then you'll see pictures of them giggling with Suri. Tom's son Connor seems to be around Dad a lot lately. (What a gorgeous kid by the way!) I still don't get how Nicole Kidman gave up full custody of their children to her ex. Very very odd that the kids aren't with their mother, no?? Nicole's father is a psychiatrist, Katie's is an attorney. These are strong men with great love for their daughters who must have had to bite their tongues for fear of losing their daughters forever. Nicole is out, I bet Katie will be out soon too. I pray that Nicole sees her kids more than we all know, and hopefully Katie's attorney Dad will get Katie full custody of Suri. Think Tom will finally realize he's starting to look like a fool if wife #3 doesn't work out either?? :confused2:

[Wisened One]

Poor Katie...I think she may be really married to DM, than TC... ya know? :unsure: (TC in DM's valance, that is)....

I bet DM has his fingers in soooo many aspects of their marriage, it ain't even funny! :ohmy:

[degraded being]

OSA


TC is PTS:bigcry:

Nicole is PTS:bigcry:

Katie has a PTS husband with PTS family all round him so is now PTS too.:bigcry:

Little Suri has a PTS Mom and a PTS Daddy.:bigcry: :bigcry:

Tom's other little children (who we can't remember the names of anymore because they are the unfortunate results of copulation with the PTS daughter of an SP psychiatrist are PTS and no value as PR items.:bigcry:

CC went so PTS about TC they pulled in the sword man.

That drove Kirstie Alley PTS and her MEST body got a bit overweight cos she pulled in mass.:bigcry:

There is one nasty SP hanging around that family:omg: :omg:

[Thrak]

That drove Kirstie Alley PTS and her MEST body got a bit overweight cos she pulled in mass.:bigcry:



More like she pulled in Krispie Creme - again and again.

[skydog]

While I agree that Tom Cruise is a good actor, I will not see any film that he stars for the reason that I do not want my money to contribute in any way to the Co$. I hope that Katie and Suri can escape the clutches of this horrible cult and wish them the best.

[8-8008]

i Saw a video with TC being interviewed. I got shocked !!!! Why ? At one point, it looked like it was DM speaking. Man he had the same manners that DM has, speaking like DM does, moving like him, smiling like him. Shit man, it hit me. TC is completely in the valence of DM and he is lost. I am not happy for Katie, she is great and I think she is great with TC but they are both stuck with DM and this is not good.

[xseaorguk]

I don't know what the most recent news is on Tom Cruise and his involement with the 'Choich', but I can imagine that he has stepped back and is not promoting the cult any more.
He has seen how his career has suffered.
He refuses to discuss it in interviews and only refers to the website if it comes up.
He has probably been advised by others to do this if he wants to save his skin.
The viral videos of Tom Cruise have huge hits on google if you look.
That means anybody that googles his name will se the youtube clip.

All this stuff about him splitting with Katie I personally do not believe.
The magazines make up this shit all the time about 'celebrities'...:yes: