Ruthie Silverman died

[Lulu Belle]

I saw a post on ARS this morning that Ruthie, the long time reg at ASHO, just died.

Didin't say why she died. But it was written in a way that gave the impression that people knew it was going to happen. I'd say it was almost certainly cancer. Arnie Lerma said she was the same age as him; I think he said she was 56.

Some of you may know her under one of her other names. Ruthie Wasserman or Harvey or Discher.

She was a funny, sharp lady. She will be missed.

[Romuva]

Lulu,just curious

Do some staff members actually change their names in COS?SO?

[Lulu Belle]

Lulu,just curious

Do some staff members actually change their names in COS?SO?

Not really.

But Sea Org members tend to get married and divorced a lot.

Ruthie was married at least 3 times in the SO that I know if. That's why all the different names.

[Romuva]

yeah I was just curious Lulu whether there was a policy somewhere
about people using their real names and whether they used a name
that wasn't their real name when they were on staff.


thanks

[Pooks]

Lulu,

Was she married to Paul Discher?

Did you know Jean Discher? She was a friend of mine from Boston.

I don't know if she's still in or not, but I'm hoping she's out.

Patty P

[Lulu Belle]

Lulu,

Was she married to Paul Discher?

Did you know Jean Discher? She was a friend of mine from Boston.

I don't know if she's still in or not, but I'm hoping she's out.

Patty P


Yes, Ruthie apparently married Paul after I left the SO. Previous to that she was married to Mike Silverman but obviously she had to divorce him when he got declared and left the Sea Org.

I knew Jean when I was in. She was CO SMI at one time. I remember she got busted from that post and I kind of think she went to the RPF but I don't really remember.

Jean was still in the SO last I knew, but that was a while ago.

[The Oracle]

I think Paul's wife divorced him after he did a Freewinds event in Texas and was spotted in a bar a few hours later by public from the event impersonating a female.

He got sent to the RPF.

He was having a rough time and of course ridiculed and humiliated to no end.

The last time I saw him there was no light left in his eyes.

Just a haunted hunted look of a war prisoner.

That was after he graduated from the RPF!

I felt very bad for him as there was always something very special about him.

But once you strip a man of his pride he may as well be dead.

I barely recognized him, he seemed to be on the verge of a psycotic break.

[Fancy]

This is sad. I knew Ruthie and met her when my tech altering awakening started.

She was always very nice towards me and yes she was the reg at ASHO.

Barb

[ExScnDude]

I also new Ruthie. She was a very bright, funny lady. She had the ability to really connect with others and as far as being a reg goes, was one of the very best.

[oudeis]

Was she also known as Ruthie Weissberg? I met her a few times at events.
Short lady with red hair? Sorry to learn of her passing.

[Bea Kiddo]

I knew Ruthie too. I remember when I was in ASHO, there was some trouble brewing medically with her. I think it was uterus type thing. That was 2 years ago. It likely turned into something more serious. They don't catch things there early enough to treat them. Sea Org members are trained into no case on post and pain is case. A sad thing when you are dying and ignoring it to be on post that day.

Ruthie, may you rest in peace.

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

I knew Ruthie too. I remember when I was in ASHO, there was some trouble brewing medically with her. I think it was uterus type thing. That was 2 years ago. It likely turned into something more serious. They don't catch things there early enough to treat them. Sea Org members are trained into no case on post and pain is case. A sad thing when you are dying and ignoring it to be on post that day.

Ruthie, may you rest in peace.

For some it's the only way out.

[Fancy]

No she was not a pretty lady but was a nice lady and that was what counted.

Good Journey Ruthie come back again.


Barb

[wolfright]

I knew Ruthie for most of my life. I'm sorry to hear that she died, I think. I'm not really surprised, she smoked at least a pack a day of unfiltered cigarettes. At the end of a rather nasty cycle of me routing out, she told some people I was NCG and an SP (based on nothing, actually) but mostly I feel sorry for her. Paul, too.

[Thrak]

I saw her around towards the end with a wig on so I assumed the end was near. Then not too long after she died I saw Paul her widower holding hands with Phyllis the absent minded DofP. Didn't take long.

[ThisIsIt]

Ruthie was such a neat lady. I got a sort of memorial type email about a year ago from LA saying she had died. She did smoke like crazy, remember a few reg cycles that were even smoky. :ohmy:

[Wisened One]

I think I met Ruthie a few times, not sure tho...the name certainly sounds familiar.....

Rest in Peace, Ruthie! :hug:

[NeutralRegulator]

I knew Ruthie for most of my life.

So did I. I was in touch with her off and on during her battle with lung cancer.

R.I.P.

[uniquemand]

I saw her around towards the end with a wig on so I assumed the end was near. Then not too long after she died I saw Paul her widower holding hands with Phyllis the absent minded DofP. Didn't take long.

Emotional attachment to a person, in Scientology, is called HE&R. Once they are dead, bury them, and start fucking whoever's closest.

[Voltaire's Child]

Emotional attachment to a person, in Scientology, is called HE&R. Once they are dead, bury them, and start fucking whoever's closest.


I never heard of emotional attachment to a person being called HE&R.

HE&R is "human emotion and reaction" and the prohibition against that pertains to blathering about feelings while writing up KRs or doing actual WORK ON POST because that gets in the way of doing one's job. Nowhere does it say in Scn one cannot like or care about other people in general.

[Dulloldfart]

Nowhere does it say in Scn one cannot like or care about other people in general.

Indeed.

As long as they're not wogs, or downstat, or out-ethics, or off-lines, or....

Paul

[Voltaire's Child]

Indeed.

As long as they're not wogs, or downstat, or out-ethics, or off-lines, or....

Paul

I stand by my previous post.

[8-8008]

I knew Ruthie too. She died of lungs cancer. I saw her and paul daily when she was sick.
She was off post for many months but will come in the org. It was Ruthie, caring person. She had been in the SO for over 32 years or maybe even more. She was a great registrar. She had a hard time with SO kids coming around telling her what to do..... She had lived life in the SO, the hard way and had enough to see kids coming around and giving her orders....
She was the first person I met in the SO. I mean the first person who cared for me there. She helped me a lot with my post.... I eventually became her senior at some point. We did very well. She married Paul. I like Paul too. Many did not (especially MAAs :lol: ). He was saying what he wanted. He did not care who it was. I spent many hours with him when Ruthie was sick. He was suffering. He loved her very much. He took 2 to 3 weeks off at one point and drove her around the USA. She really enjoyed it. I met her mother who came few weeks before she died. Her mother is 92 or now 95 ??? she is a funny woman. Full of energy, going around by herself, living in NY.... She looks 60 honestly.
Paul called me the day Ruthie passed away. I went to see him. She had been place in a center (nice place) and was taken cared for. Paul was there too. Then they came to pick up the body. Her mother wanted to go out and eat in a place where Ruthie took her many times. We went there (10 people I think) including Ruthie's son. It was great. We recalled stories.
Her service was great, many people came. I like Ruthie and will never forget her.
:bigcry:

[Fancy]

When I was at Asho she was always nice to me. I am glad she had a good hubby.

[Voltaire's Child]

I saw a post on ARS this morning that Ruthie, the long time reg at ASHO, just died.

Didin't say why she died. But it was written in a way that gave the impression that people knew it was going to happen. I'd say it was almost certainly cancer. Arnie Lerma said she was the same age as him; I think he said she was 56.

Some of you may know her under one of her other names. Ruthie Wasserman or Harvey or Discher.

She was a funny, sharp lady. She will be missed.

I met an SO lady one time named Ruthie. I wonder if she was Ruthie Silverman. I'm sorry your friend has passed away.