PirateAndBum

Originally Posted by PirateAndBum

Adherence/Promotion of KSW is to my mind a iron-clad indication of support for Hubbard's cult vision and evidence that the person(s) is self-blinded by their beliefs. Beliefs for which there is ample evidence available to a rational individual to give up such beliefs.

Belief that Scientology's "Bridge" is the only road out is clearly false due to the fact that no one that has traveled said road has ever gotten "out". Not one Scientologist living on Earth can come

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All of freedom lies within the concept of freedom of choice. When one is no longer free to choose one has lost all the freedom there is. The basic freedom of choice is between making and not making a postulate. In life this translates into the freedom of choice to play or not play a game. Thus, to the degree that the playing of games becomes compulsive freedom becomes lost.

All entrapment is to be found in the compulsive playing of games. The route from entrapment to freedom, then,

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Originally Posted by Mark A. Baker

Actually this guy makes some very good points that it would do well for a few of the more strident critics to consider.

First, arguably the vast majority of people on the planet are not terribly interested in waging a war against scientology. An attitude which requires 'you are either with us or against us' is no more attractive coming from a critic of scientology than it is coming from a member in good standing of the church. There is in fact no difference between such appeals except

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Marty & Mike - "The Independent's OSA"

On post, well trained, and dedicated to making their post purpose:

"TO HELP LRH ENFORCE AND ISSUE POLICY, TO SAFEGUARD SCIENTOLOGY ORGS, SCIENTOLOGISTS AND SCIENTOLOGY AND TO ENGAGE IN LONG TERM PROMOTION."

Note that even though "out" they are still acting to protect LRH's name & image and the Church of Scientology. They have identified Miscavige as an enemy and are busy ...

Originally Posted by Gadfly

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That people like Marty actually CARE about "Hubbard's image" is just MAJOR BULLSHIT. Marty is concerned with spreading an ABSTRACTION. He is concerned much more with THE IDEA OF HUBBARD than with the TRUTH about Hubbard. He doesn't want you looking at specifics about Hubbard, because that would tear down the IDEA he wants you to accept. Marty is playing "mind control" games, whether he knows it or not. Marty was created in the mold of OSA/RTC type manipulation,

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