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  1. Scholars on Scientology

    by , 20th December 2014 at 06:51 AM (ADVANCED METHODS OF PERSUASION)
    Quote Originally Posted by mockingbird View Post
    I realized that in the world of exes and critics there are several styles of authentification or confirmation that are pursued for a variety of reasons and with greatly varying effects.

    There is the " all Hubbard quotes " style - your work is ENTIRELY quotes used to point out ideas or IMPLY contradiction OR , if you support Hubbard or his methods SHOW your side or point as " on source ".

    There is the " Hubbard heavy " style which has a mix
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  2. The SPs of the 60s&70s: Sociopaths?

    by , 17th December 2014 at 04:54 AM (ADVANCED METHODS OF PERSUASION)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lermanet_com View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonomog View Post
    Marty was saying similar things about hubbard and busses and baby bathwater (yawn) but things changed.

    Hubbard conned us in Dianetics and Scientology by demonizing, - dissing... sources of information that came before him. He used Ad-hominem more than just about anyone I can think of..

    It should not be surprising that such conditioning might manifest in those newly out,

    Present it's use as evidence of prior conditioning, and turn it into an opportunity
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  3. The SPs of the 60s&70s: Sociopaths?

    by , 17th December 2014 at 04:53 AM (ADVANCED METHODS OF PERSUASION)
    Quote Originally Posted by Veda View Post


    John Sanborn was the editor of many of Hubbard's early books, and of 'Ability' magazine.

    Here Sanborn comments on the first SP Declare:
    Hubbard had Marilyn Routsong, who was the World Wide Ethics Officer at St. Hill, deliver the first Suppressive Person Declare. He had written this system up and now he was going to use it.

    Hubbard said declare so and
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  4. Lermanet.com's great finds Re Scientology

    by , 17th December 2014 at 04:25 AM (ADVANCED METHODS OF PERSUASION)
    Quote Originally Posted by mockingbird View Post
    This thread is to both acknowledge Arnie Lerma's great work as one of my two primary sources of info on the TRUE nature of Scientology and what the " tech " actually does !!!

    AND to put together some of the MOST useful of his many , many informative posts on the subject in one place NOW so people can read them who have not OR read them as a source of additional info on most of what I write on and to even compare to Jon Atack's stuff at the Bunker and in his online articles
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  5. Recovery Beginnings

    by , 28th November 2014 at 10:59 AM (ADVANCED METHODS OF PERSUASION)
    Quote Originally Posted by mockingbird View Post
    Several people have started asking me about recovery and some very personal issues related to what to do and how to start .

    I am not a psychologist or therapist or doctor and have no college education of any kind .

    I do not know anything that would lead me to discourage the use of conventional medicine in any way .


    So , I will start to give a little of the info I have in this post to assist if possible .

    I want to stress that recovery is
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