Gizmo
Rabble Rouser
This is L Ron Hubbard explaining to YOU, how he fucks with your mind.
The first video you suggested has a picture of him full screen & over 10 minutes of him droning on.
Dude, FLUNK !
We can talk. just not in hubbardize.
This is L Ron Hubbard explaining to YOU, how he fucks with your mind.
Hubbard didn't just fail to appreciate mothers (and fathers and children for that matter) ... he actively degraded and dominated them.
He shat on any concept of true family.
Aside from the obvious lack of results and bilking zillions of dollars from those who can't afford it and the disconnection policy and the concentration camp mentality and lots of very silly drills,
I keep coming back to 2 very obvious MISSING points in Hubbard's world view of fixing everyone and everything.
1. Failure to fully appreciate mothers, motherhood, rearing children with close and loving supervision. Sheeze! This omission was/is just gigantic. How Ron missed this is testimony to his lack of vision and being self-absorbed. Even Hitler honored the mothers. It's stunning that the COS has courses, books and tapes on improving the 2D.
2. "Inspection before the fact." Hubs isolated this one precept as being the senior admin problem everywhere. Well, that might be true if you run a half-assed, fly-by-night operation where the customers are banging the doors demanding their money back. Or, if you're writing sci-fi at 2 cents a word, volume would be more important than character development. The business world that I live in is marked by close attention to details and planning. In fact, individuals or companies that don't "inspect before the fact" aren't allowed to conduct business in my world. Try getting the FDA to approve your operations on those terms. "Inspection before the fact" is a great way to run from one problem to the next with great inefficiency. It's just stupid in nearly every business situation I can think of. I guess it makes sense since LRH had no experience running a real business. LRH had a lot of experience in getting folks to work for peanuts in absolute dictatorship.
I live in an American suburban world. Kids in local schools, soccer moms, mini vans, college prep, dance classes, sports camps and what little Johnny did at recess are part of my everyday life. Most of the women I meet are mothers or planning to be mothers. Not all. It's bizarre that LRH would write profusely about how to live a better life while excluding the MAIN focus of so many women. Some of this blindness can be attributed to his generation. He was born before women had the right to vote in the USA. But Hubbard had audited or CS'd or managed a lot of women and still the mothering focus wasn't addressed with much compassion. I think his deliberate ignorance of mothering is revealing his true and deep lack of love or empathy for a strong family. It was as if all mankind was supposed to embrace the love of an org staff while ditching the family. Anything else was Treason. The dude was pretty sick.
Fixt.... as long as they don't harm others without their consent.
Does that include the fact that people with dependants get favorable tax rates and millions of tax dollars spent on them such as for schools?Further qualified: "people should simply be allowed to do what they want (within reason), as long as they don't harm others, and as long as they don't demand others pay for (or otherwise subsidize) their choices".
Emphasis mine.
He certainly was and it gets worse ... I believe his main focus WAS on women and that he most certainly knew how valuable they are and that's why he made so many women his most senior "execs" (Mary Sue and Jane Kember spring to mind as do so many others).
I also believe he actually disliked babies and children intensely, perhaps because they were potentially in the way of his greed and goals.
Does that include the fact that people with dependants get favorable tax rates and millions of tax dollars spent on them such as for schools?
Helena
Does that include the fact that people with dependants get favorable tax rates and millions of tax dollars spent on them such as for schools?
Helena
Huh? Helena, you won't find a civilized society anywhere that doesn't at least pay in part to ensure everyone is educated. Without education, children do not become skilled or competent to hold jobs and contribute to society.
I suppose it's wrong to have to subsidize the expensive choices made by others -- except in the above example. Since there are more parents than non-parents, and the majority decides what's right and what's wrong, that's the way it has to be.Does that include the fact that people with dependants get favorable tax rates and millions of tax dollars spent on them such as for schools?
Oh, sure, blame me for all this. Again, the majority decides who's right because they can.I think I detect a possible by-passed charge here. Possibly child/children would be a good item on you next list.
What have you done to a child?
What have children done to you?
What have others done to children?
etc, you know the drill
Try Fiji. Seriously. It's the best community setup I've ever seen.
Some go to the cities to seek their fortunes and don't live that well when it goes bad, but don't let that throw you off. They always have the option of returning to their respective villages and the villages are nice, clean, with good houses and food, though humble. People are very happy, family matters, and they are kind-hearted, lovely people. No drugs to speak of, very little crime beyond theft in the cities.
He certainly did devote a lot of DMSMH to "attempted abortion" incidents.
I think he liked having sex with women, but wasn't interested in using condoms. Birth control pills didn't become widely available until the 1960's.
ADDING: Hubbard was definitely an "Alpha Male" in his younger days. Although not much to look at, he was successful in bedding, marrying, and becoming the object of devotion of younger attractive women. I think he became impotent sometime in the 1970's.
During which military coup were you there?
Less than two months ago, I stayed in Fiji for 8 days on my way to the US. It was the beginning of their winter and perfect weather for me, low season for tourists, but the native Fijians were easily chilled by the cooler nights.
I stayed away from the tourist villages but was invited by one of the women who worked at the hotel to stay for dinner at a Fijian village and spend the night as her guest. I met her family, her extended family, her pastor. I saw the beautiful grounds kept by the community, the houses they built, heard the church choir singing and saw a lack of furniture or any extras. The Fijians were brilliantly happy. They had all they wanted or needed and did not worry that they didn't have more. They were grateful for what they had, despite long bus rides to the city to work and college not available to everyone. They treat everyone as one of them and believe we are all one people, all over the world. Some kill wildlife to survive, many raise their own chickens and goats, but none are greedy and all respect the animals and environment. They are a beautiful, loving and humble people.
It's not perfect. There is deep corruption in the government or they would be doing far better. Still, between the way they practice their Christian faith, tight, supportive community and family and village, they do very well. They are healthy, seldom sick, not stressed, very calm and at peace with themselves. It was an eye-opening experience.
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His cold, dismissive and often brutal treatment of people in general seems to have been a symptom of a very real personality disorder and he was able to teach that behaviour to so many others (any scientologist who took his ''philosophy'' on board and acted it out) so he's still doing harm today. It has destroyed so many relationships and families, many will never recover (mine included) ... people must die still traumatised by what they once did or allowed to be done to others in hubbards name (see Free to shines recent posts).
The man was very cunning and very damaged but was clever enough to actually sell his various disorders to others and make a fortune from it along the way, that the cult is still active despite all the info out there is astonishing though and says much about those still trapped and the various allegiances they must feel the need to maintain and honour.
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