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Radical Islamic Terrorism & scientology

Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
Looking into what brings about willingness for jihad it is inescapable the "steps" required for radicalization are the same as for a cult.

Critical thinking has to be disposed of. A sense of being better than others. Sexual activity suppressed. Sense of humor has to be gone. Sacrificing oneself to save mankind.

Stunning how it take the same thing kind of steps to get closer to the " goal ".

( Please do note I'm talking about RADICAL only ! )

One odd thing I'm not sure exists in scn that exists in Islamic radicalization is beauty is eased out & attention is put on ugly - eventually no beauty can be seen - makes it easier to hate. That is the ONLY point where I didn't see the exact same pattern.
 
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Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
A weird point is that a jihadist willing kills infidels - and themselves in the process.

I've been around long enough to not be naïve enough to think scn would not kill people ( well, because they have ).

I tend to suspect an OSA operative with enough dedication would be willing to kill themselves in the process of taking out a person to achieve a " goal ".

Thoughts ?
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Looking into what brings about willingness for jihad it is inescapable the "steps" required for radicalization are the same as for a cult.Critical thinking has to be disposed of. A sense of being better than others. Sexual activity suppressed. Sense of humor has to be gone. Sacrificing oneself to save mankind. Stunning how it take the same thing kind of steps to get closer to the " goal ".( Please do note I'm talking about RADICAL only ! )One odd thing I'm not sure exists in scn that exists in Islamic radicalization is beauty is eased out & attention is put on ugly - eventually no beauty can be seen - makes it easier to hate. That is the ONLY point where I didn't see the exact same pattern.

Steve Hassan has spoken about the commonalities between religious cults and political cults.

The recipe to create a Scientologist is pretty close to that of creating a terrorist.

Both are indoctrinated to believe they're doing the greatest good, and their end justifies any means

A couple years back I was lurking on an EX-terrorist message board and it seemed quite familiar. :omg:

Good people who got sucked in, got brainwashed, and eventually woke up to who they really are.
 

WildKat

Gold Meritorious Patron
The recipe to create a Scientologist is pretty close to that of creating a terrorist.

Both are indoctrinated to believe they're doing the greatest good, and their end justifies any means.

That pretty well sums it up. I would only add "to create a steely-eyed KSW Scientologist..."

And one more thing....BOTH cults believe that if you become one of them but then later leave...become a dreaded Apostate...you are DEAD to them, quite literally in one case and sometimes both.
 

lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
A weird point is that a jihadist willing kills infidels - and themselves in the process.

I've been around long enough to not be naïve enough to think scn would not kill people ( well, because they have ).

I tend to suspect an OSA operative with enough dedication would be willing to kill themselves in the process of taking out a person to achieve a " goal ".

Thoughts ?

Isis terrorists

Yes..they also volunteer for being a kamikaze...they are very proud and happy about that since they will be given 72 virgins when they step into paradise and eternity! (they do not provide testosterone neither viagra though!


OSA terrorists

We heard about joining LRH on target two....
however if we were not given a creepy scary scritp of psychs implanting us in-between live and doing bad things to us...but were promessed virgins, beautifull young guys, a paradise, especially for the dedicated OSA martyrs..it would be very possible that some people would chose to die for the cause...the ''cause'' concept is very strong in $cientology...we are expected to dedicate our life for the cause..to hurt people for a just cause, and to destroy the SP's infidels...

But if we were given such a script to believe that upon dying, for religious freedom and to save the planet, we would be granted such divine favors and beauty ..may be some would have gone that far...If we take only the frantic obsessive spying and destroying of ''infidels'' live..the mindset has some similarities..
Saving the world from bad people and establish a new world under guru control.

Get ethics in on the planet\to implement the tech ???
Establish a Caliphat????
there is only a fine line between both! Both have to do with brainswashing and total lost of critical mind. :confused2:
 
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Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
Isis terrorists

Yes..they also volunteer for being a kamikaze...they are very proud and happy about that since they will be given 72 virgins when they paradise and eternity! (they do not provide testosterone enither viagra though!

True they get no Viagra, but, along with the 72 virgins ( who are white & soft ! ) that each return to virgin every time & are never bored with sex.

Most importantly, the men have an eternal erection for sex.

I ain't making this up - go read up on what the sex starved boys are promised ( remember, no sex outside of marriage & in their society a man has to be able to support a woman - oh, in a way suitable to her family !

So marriage for a youngish age for men is pretty much hard to have happen. . . even after med school !
 

Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
Steve Hassan has spoken about the commonalities between religious cults and political cults.

The recipe to create a Scientologist is pretty close to that of creating a terrorist.

Both are indoctrinated to believe they're doing the greatest good, and their end justifies any means

A couple years back I was lurking on an EX-terrorist message board and it seemed quite familiar. :omg:

Good people who got sucked in, got brainwashed, and eventually woke up to who they really are.


scn's have 'acceptable truth' & the radicals have a name for doing anything to fool the infidel.


Any religion that says ' lie for the cause ' ? That ought - for most of us at least - to have cause the raising of a tiny reddish flag :)
 

lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
True they get no Viagra, but, along with the 72 virgins ( who are white & soft ! ) that each return to virgin every time & are never bored with sex.

Most importantly, the men have an eternal erection for sex.

Since you mention it..
you took the words out of my fingers..:biggrin:

I never read though what the virgins are promessed..
Being chased by young guys radars all day long..for eternity...not that funny...:unsure:

It's a case of: ''do I look brainwashed to you''

Did someone recall the stuff on original OT8 published on Lermanet

L ron Hubbard

I will soon leave this world only to return and complete my mission with another Identity. Although I long to stretch my arms back in repose on some distant star in some distant galaxy. It appears that is one dream that will have to wait. But my return depends on people like you doing these materials thoroughly and completely so that there will be a genetically uncontaminated body for me to pick up and resume where I left off.

Quite weirdo...as a dedicated life to provide ''source'' with genetically uncontaminated body...

If he was not so greed..he would have share paradise with virgins... instead of suking others to get a decent meat body :duh:
 

Teanntás

Silver Meritorious Patron
Looking into what brings about willingness for jihad it is inescapable the "steps" required for radicalization are the same as for a cult.

Critical thinking has to be disposed of. A sense of being better than others. Sexual activity suppressed. Sense of humor has to be gone. Sacrificing oneself to save mankind.

Stunning how it take the same thing kind of steps to get closer to the " goal ".

( Please do note I'm talking about RADICAL only ! )

One odd thing I'm not sure exists in scn that exists in Islamic radicalization is beauty is eased out & attention is put on ugly - eventually no beauty can be seen - makes it easier to hate. That is the ONLY point where I didn't see the exact same pattern.

Then there's
Deception, Lying
and Taqiyya

Does Islam permit Muslims to lie?

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."
There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
 

Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
Then there's
Deception, Lying
and Taqiyya

Does Islam permit Muslims to lie?

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."
There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx

Yes, taqiyya was being done for days by going to bars & drinking alcohol by the guys who boarded the airliners for 9/11. Perfect example of taqiyya - lull the infidels.
 

Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
Is the jury in on Marty yet ?

There he was dealing with a paddle boat in the canal & an electric golf cart out in the street.

Paulette Cooper was dealt with a little more harshly - only a little more, eh ?

Lisa McPherson.

Others, like Mark Bunker having fliers given to his neighbors & protestors with posters in front of his residence. That is a long list of people !

A major of Clearwater that they tired to implement in a STAGED hit & run traffic accident.

The list goes on, but, which side was Marty really on ?
 

Out/Int

Patron with Honors
RADICAL RELIGIOUS TERRORISM:nervous: = Radical Islamic Terrorism :nervous:= Scientology is Religious RADICAL Terrorism:nervous:

In this example .... a=a=a is spot on.:yes:

And it is the part of your "reactive brain" you don't want to audit out, train to deaden and make numb the normal HE&R one "senses" when one is around terrorism...or get rid of!
 
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The_Fixer

Class Clown
True they get no Viagra, but, along with the 72 virgins ( who are white & soft ! ) that each return to virgin every time & are never bored with sex.

Most importantly, the men have an eternal erection for sex.

I ain't making this up - go read up on what the sex starved boys are promised ( remember, no sex outside of marriage & in their society a man has to be able to support a woman - oh, in a way suitable to her family !

So marriage for a youngish age for men is pretty much hard to have happen. . . even after med school !

Is it specified that those said virgins are females?

If not, those boys could be in for a bit of a surprise.
 

Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
Is it specified that those said virgins are females?

If not, those boys could be in for a bit of a surprise.

Good post ! But, yes, the virgins are female.

I've also heard some say that there was a translation error & the correct word really is not virgin but vigilante. LOL !

But 72 soft & white virgins who always return to virgin & a young guy with an endless erection have to sound like heaven to those severely sexually deprived starved kids !

What won't a religion do to gets it's way ?
 

lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
Is the jury in on Marty yet ?

There he was dealing with a paddle boat in the canal & an electric golf cart out in the street.

Paulette Cooper was dealt with a little more harshly - only a little more, eh ?

Lisa McPherson.

Others, like Mark Bunker having fliers given to his neighbors & protestors with posters in front of his residence. That is a long list of people !

A major of Clearwater that they tired to implement in a STAGED hit & run traffic accident.

The list goes on, but, which side was Marty really on ?

I think enlightment about Marty's current issue is out of reach right now!
to get an understanding about what's going on and the events track (true history)
it would required that we get the whole knowledge about the ''behind the scene, and back channels operations...''
Like in $cientology..it's often the real war ground...

What we know is the public part of it..an image of it..
the real situtation is about ops....and people controling the control :coolwink:
this is what I truly believe
and I am not known for being a CT freak...

I'd say Marty was first on his own side..he attempted to survvce the way he knows to do that
as a fighter..a warrior...
then he became a sort of guru, exposing Miscavich
later, exposing the ''black'' scientology (as ever $cientology been other than dark and black??)
became a philosopher
then a (savior..through Monique's suit)...
and...
things happened behind the curtains..
since this situation involved a lot of games

A long silence took place...and suddenly people came out...and the quarrel appeared and was already huge..
and began the nasty stuff..on both sides..Marty and what he calls the anti-$cieno cult
What we saw was not the fight..
we saw the last bits of it...

I believe some people (Indies???) expected Marty to do the fight
to take down Miscavige..
Possibly there was some agreements involved
Who??? Why????
Who knows...may be to take over the church .....
May be to reform it...
It's a huge cult..a tremendously huge game to play...
there is a lot of power, control and money involved intaking over1

Possibly Marty knows things about both sides now...
The cult and what he calls the anti-scieno-cult...

I don't believe all exe who are out are out of the cult mindset...:no:no
Unfortunately, it's more complicated to get this than the Bold and beautiful ''thriller'' episodes :hysterical:

Since I am not in the back channels secrecy :bigcry:
but sometimes somethings are obviously obvious..even for one who is not the sharpest tool... :biggrin:

$cientology mindset is always about manipulating, controling, and doing ops..
Possibly part of the LRH inheritance of a collective mental illness and OCD

:confused2:

Oups..this is a ''suicide by posts.. '' :hysterical:

Seriously only my current opinion (speculations) based only on current perceptions and no fact to back it.
(not interested to know them though)
 
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Teanntás

Silver Meritorious Patron
Is it specified that those said virgins are females?

If not, those boys could be in for a bit of a surprise.

(QURAN 52:24): "And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls."

(QURAN 56:17): "They will be served by immortal boys."

(QURAN 76:19): "And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls."

http://www.albatrus.org/english/religions/islam/72virgins_and_boys.htm
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
(QURAN 52:24): "And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls."

(QURAN 56:17): "They will be served by immortal boys."

(QURAN 76:19): "And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls."

http://www.albatrus.org/english/religions/islam/72virgins_and_boys.htm

With those little pearls, it's a wonder John Revoltya isn't heading up the queue.....:hmm:

Aren't I being naughty today?
 
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