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I haven't logged in here for ages, but finally remembered my password by chance. I can't figure out how to search this new revised forum. This should probably be added to an existing thread somewhere, but sorry I really don't know where to put it.
Anyway, due to Katie Holmes concerns about Suri getting "drafted" into the Sea Org at 6 years of age, I'll repost this old stuff here that I posted on WWP ages ago. I've been re-posting stuff anonymously over on WWP, hope that's not a concern here.
My brain's a bit fuzzy these days, but I have posted this information so many times, I hope that FINALLY main stream media will pay attention to these underage justification dox. Hope the formatting works...
Scientology insider details 'nightmare' childhood
He says children have not been allowed to join the Sea Org for more than 20 years, however the ABC's Four Corners investigation found members have been recruited and separated from their families from the age of 14 since then.
Cyrus Brooks is lying. Here is documented proof of children joining the Sea Org less than 20 years ago.
US Government documents:
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/040816_AUG162004_02C1101.pdf
Rev. Carnahan, in the above letter, does not offer any details about the
beneficiary's job title, duties, or work hours (although he repeatedly adds the
title "Reverend" to the beneficiary's name). He does, however, offer
more information in a sworn affidavit:
[The beneficiary] . . . has been a staff member of the [petitioning church] since
March 2000.
. . .
In 1993, [the beneficiary] joined the fraternity of the [Sea Org] and began
working full time for the Church in Canada. He took on a position as the
Community Relations Director responsible for creating a favorable public
relations atmosphere in the neighborhoods surrounding the Church premises.
We interject, here, the observation that the beneficiary was ten years old in
1993. [Redacted] does not offer any details about the duties of the Community
Relations Director, the credentials required for the such a position would be
consistent with the educational schedule of a ten-year-old child.
...
Regarding the beneficiary's age, [Redacted] states that the beneficiary "wanted
to join staff from the time he was seven years old and signed a contract on April
16, 1989 in order to do that." April 16, 1989, was the day after the beneficiary's
sixth birthday. Therefore, his motivation for signing the billion-year [Sea Org]
contract of Employment" (Contract) cannot be that he "wanted to join staff from
the time he was seven years old." [Redacted] states that, despite having
signed the Contract, the beneficiary "was unable to join the Sea Org until he
was ten due to legal restrictions."
...
The petitioner has submitted documentation showing that it allows children
of kindergarten age to sign a billion-year Contract with the Sea Org; we are
not obliged to ignore this information merely because the beneficiary signed his
Contract more than two years before the filing date. Whether the beneficiary
had been a member for a week or for fifty years, the circumstances under which
he first signed the Contract are relevant when considering the nature of the
organization. The two-year requirement does not, in any way, restrict
reasonable inquiry into the underlying nature of the organization.
Counsel maintains that the beneficiary's joining the Sea Org at such a young
age "is excellent evidence of the calling to religious life contemplated by 8
C.F.R. § 204.5(m)(2)." This argument would be persuasive only if six-year-old
children routinely made reliable predictions about their ultimate careers. There
is no evidence that very young children (who are especially impressionable,
particularly when a parent is a church official) sign the Sea Org Contract under
different circumstances than adults, who have given mature reflection to the
nature of a permanent commitment.
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http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/040802_AUG022004_02C1101.pdf
The beneficiary, born in 1978, was only fifteen years old when she
signed a "Contract of Employment" (Contract) with the Sea Org in 1993.
The Contract reads, in its entirety:
I, ______________________DO HEREBY AGREE to enter into employment with
the SEA ORGANIZATION and, being of sound mind, do fully realize and agree to
abide by its purpose which is to get ETHICS IN this PLANET AND UNIVERSE and,
fully and without reservation, subscribe to the discipline, mores and conditions
of this group and pledge to abide by them.
THEREFORE, I CONTRACT MYSELF TO THE [DELETED] FOR THE NEXT BILLION
YEARS.
(As per Flag Order 232)
=====================================
This US Government document is from 2005:
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/050301_MAR012005_03C1101.pdf
In SRC [redacted] the alien signed the contract at the age of fifteen, and
the petitioner submitted a publication entitled "The [Sea Org]: The Religious
Order of the Church of Scientology," which states: "There is no age limit for
joining the [Sea Org] . . . But there are restrictions for signing a declaration or
contract with the local churches. If a person is under the legal age limit of the
country he must get full parental agreement and meet any employment laws of
the land."
=====================================
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/050930_SEP302005_01B6203.pdf
We note that the beneficiary was fifteen years old when she joined
the Sea Org in 1994. By the date of filing in 1999, however, the beneficiary
was twenty years old, an age that does not raise concerns about compliance
with federal, state, and local laws governing child labor (such as the Fair Labor
Standards Act). Such questions would likely arise in instances where the
beneficiary is, as of the filing date, too young to work legally.
=====================================
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/051123_NOV232005_06C1101.pdf
The record contains copies of several certificates, including a "Sea
Organization Contract of Employment," which reads, in part, "I contract myself
to the Sea Organization for the next billion years," signed by the beneficiary
and dated December 15, 1996, when the beneficiary was thirteen years of
age. The beneficiary's "Welcome to the Sea Org" certificate is dated August 9,
1997. Another certificate, "Basic Sea Org Member Hat," is dated November 18,
1997.
=====================================
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/060330_Mar302006_02C1101.pdf
In a supplement to the appeal, the petitioner submits copies of various
church documents. One document, dated February 23, 1994, indicates that the
beneficiary passed the Fitness Board. Another document, dated August 2,
1998, reaffirms this finding of fitness. This indicates that the beneficiary was a
full member of the Sea Org for more than nine years prior to the petition's March
2003 filing date.
The beneficiary was ten years old when he became a full Sea Org member.
https://whyweprotest.net/community/...mes-are-divorcing.103450/page-13#post-2137800
Anyway, due to Katie Holmes concerns about Suri getting "drafted" into the Sea Org at 6 years of age, I'll repost this old stuff here that I posted on WWP ages ago. I've been re-posting stuff anonymously over on WWP, hope that's not a concern here.
My brain's a bit fuzzy these days, but I have posted this information so many times, I hope that FINALLY main stream media will pay attention to these underage justification dox. Hope the formatting works...
Scientology insider details 'nightmare' childhood
He says children have not been allowed to join the Sea Org for more than 20 years, however the ABC's Four Corners investigation found members have been recruited and separated from their families from the age of 14 since then.
Cyrus Brooks is lying. Here is documented proof of children joining the Sea Org less than 20 years ago.
US Government documents:
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/040816_AUG162004_02C1101.pdf
Rev. Carnahan, in the above letter, does not offer any details about the
beneficiary's job title, duties, or work hours (although he repeatedly adds the
title "Reverend" to the beneficiary's name). He does, however, offer
more information in a sworn affidavit:
[The beneficiary] . . . has been a staff member of the [petitioning church] since
March 2000.
. . .
In 1993, [the beneficiary] joined the fraternity of the [Sea Org] and began
working full time for the Church in Canada. He took on a position as the
Community Relations Director responsible for creating a favorable public
relations atmosphere in the neighborhoods surrounding the Church premises.
We interject, here, the observation that the beneficiary was ten years old in
1993. [Redacted] does not offer any details about the duties of the Community
Relations Director, the credentials required for the such a position would be
consistent with the educational schedule of a ten-year-old child.
...
Regarding the beneficiary's age, [Redacted] states that the beneficiary "wanted
to join staff from the time he was seven years old and signed a contract on April
16, 1989 in order to do that." April 16, 1989, was the day after the beneficiary's
sixth birthday. Therefore, his motivation for signing the billion-year [Sea Org]
contract of Employment" (Contract) cannot be that he "wanted to join staff from
the time he was seven years old." [Redacted] states that, despite having
signed the Contract, the beneficiary "was unable to join the Sea Org until he
was ten due to legal restrictions."
...
The petitioner has submitted documentation showing that it allows children
of kindergarten age to sign a billion-year Contract with the Sea Org; we are
not obliged to ignore this information merely because the beneficiary signed his
Contract more than two years before the filing date. Whether the beneficiary
had been a member for a week or for fifty years, the circumstances under which
he first signed the Contract are relevant when considering the nature of the
organization. The two-year requirement does not, in any way, restrict
reasonable inquiry into the underlying nature of the organization.
Counsel maintains that the beneficiary's joining the Sea Org at such a young
age "is excellent evidence of the calling to religious life contemplated by 8
C.F.R. § 204.5(m)(2)." This argument would be persuasive only if six-year-old
children routinely made reliable predictions about their ultimate careers. There
is no evidence that very young children (who are especially impressionable,
particularly when a parent is a church official) sign the Sea Org Contract under
different circumstances than adults, who have given mature reflection to the
nature of a permanent commitment.
=====================================
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/040802_AUG022004_02C1101.pdf
The beneficiary, born in 1978, was only fifteen years old when she
signed a "Contract of Employment" (Contract) with the Sea Org in 1993.
The Contract reads, in its entirety:
I, ______________________DO HEREBY AGREE to enter into employment with
the SEA ORGANIZATION and, being of sound mind, do fully realize and agree to
abide by its purpose which is to get ETHICS IN this PLANET AND UNIVERSE and,
fully and without reservation, subscribe to the discipline, mores and conditions
of this group and pledge to abide by them.
THEREFORE, I CONTRACT MYSELF TO THE [DELETED] FOR THE NEXT BILLION
YEARS.
(As per Flag Order 232)
=====================================
This US Government document is from 2005:
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/050301_MAR012005_03C1101.pdf
In SRC [redacted] the alien signed the contract at the age of fifteen, and
the petitioner submitted a publication entitled "The [Sea Org]: The Religious
Order of the Church of Scientology," which states: "There is no age limit for
joining the [Sea Org] . . . But there are restrictions for signing a declaration or
contract with the local churches. If a person is under the legal age limit of the
country he must get full parental agreement and meet any employment laws of
the land."
=====================================
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/050930_SEP302005_01B6203.pdf
We note that the beneficiary was fifteen years old when she joined
the Sea Org in 1994. By the date of filing in 1999, however, the beneficiary
was twenty years old, an age that does not raise concerns about compliance
with federal, state, and local laws governing child labor (such as the Fair Labor
Standards Act). Such questions would likely arise in instances where the
beneficiary is, as of the filing date, too young to work legally.
=====================================
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/051123_NOV232005_06C1101.pdf
The record contains copies of several certificates, including a "Sea
Organization Contract of Employment," which reads, in part, "I contract myself
to the Sea Organization for the next billion years," signed by the beneficiary
and dated December 15, 1996, when the beneficiary was thirteen years of
age. The beneficiary's "Welcome to the Sea Org" certificate is dated August 9,
1997. Another certificate, "Basic Sea Org Member Hat," is dated November 18,
1997.
=====================================
http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/060330_Mar302006_02C1101.pdf
In a supplement to the appeal, the petitioner submits copies of various
church documents. One document, dated February 23, 1994, indicates that the
beneficiary passed the Fitness Board. Another document, dated August 2,
1998, reaffirms this finding of fitness. This indicates that the beneficiary was a
full member of the Sea Org for more than nine years prior to the petition's March
2003 filing date.
The beneficiary was ten years old when he became a full Sea Org member.
https://whyweprotest.net/community/...mes-are-divorcing.103450/page-13#post-2137800
