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  1. Thread: Hubbard - OT VIII

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    Re: Hubbard - OT VIII

    http://www.sonymoviechannel.com/sites/default/files/movies/images/earthvstheflyingsaucershm.jpg
    Actually, the Marcabians are pretty nice once you get to know them.




    At one time I also...
  2. Re: Freezone Scientology Convention 2015 Call for Speakers

    IMO, the meter has some limited usefulness, but it can be misleading and the source of mischief. It's one of the components of the mind-manipulation that overtakes Scientologists as they travel up...
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    If you had been told, "No, it's not floating," would it have affected how you felt?
  4. Re: Freezone Scientology Convention 2015 Call for Speakers

    If the meter had showed a stuck needle would it have affected how you felt? Would you have been distressed at having a stuck needle, or a high TA with no FN?

    I've seen people, who regard the meter...
  5. Re: Freezone Scientology Convention 2015 Call for Speakers

    Interesting stuff, thank you.

    This thread really begins with its earlier cousin thread, that provides the "warning label" which, unfortunately, IMO, is necessary:
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  6. Re: Freezone Scientology Convention 2015 Call for Speakers

    Some more quickly chosen material. This regards the previously linked 'Batra':

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  7. Re: Freezone Scientology Convention 2015 Call for Speakers

    This doesn't address your request but is a quickly assembled sampling of the posts on ESMB dealing with the topic of the paranormal. Perhaps it will be of interest to you. There's much more.


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  8. Re: Early Mission Holder History~Peter Greene Transcript

    http://i52.tinypic.com/29dz7s5.jpg
    Following Hubbard's orders,
    Miscavage "puts ethics in" on a Mission Holder.
  9. Re: Early Mission Holder History~Peter Greene Transcript

    Well, you have Denise Brennan, David Mayo, Martin Samuels, Bent Corydon, Jesse Prince, and Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder, amongst others, saying otherwise.

    It's been discussed at length.
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  10. Re: Early Mission Holder History~Peter Greene Transcript

    No. :)



    That was sham protective cover for Hubbard; and, just as explained by Denise Brennan, the later corporate changes were also sham protective cover for Hubbard and his money.
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    Re: Disbarred lawyer defends Hubbard blames CIA

    "The policy of disconnection was initially instituted by L. Ron Hubbard as a common sense expression of a person's right to be rid of someone in their circle who was causing distress or holding them...
  12. Re: Early Mission Holder History~Peter Greene Transcript

    In 1982 - when Greene wrote this - Hubbard had just finished writing eleven science fiction novels.

    He wasn't demented and out of touch at that time. He was running Scientology covertly.
  13. Re: Early Mission Holder History~Peter Greene Transcript

    Some updated background

    Hubbard was issuing orders secretly, and others were carrying them out, and the naive faithfull were (sometimes, usually meekly) balking, but balking certain that they...
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    Disconnection is not just Admin; it's also Tech, and it goes waaaay back to 1951, where extreme disconnection, manifesting as quarantining from society - for those who are judged to be low on the...
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    Re: Disbarred lawyer defends Hubbard blames CIA

    More content re. Merrell Vannier book:
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    Re: Disbarred lawyer defends Hubbard blames CIA

    That's what you get from Tony Ortega's article?

    :headspin:
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    Disbarred lawyer defends Hubbard blames CIA

    New book by former Scientology dirty trickster Merrel Vannier blames FBI and CIA.


    http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/ArrowsInTheDarkCover.png

    From Tony Ortega's Bunker:
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    Re: For those curious

    That's a chart that happened to be on the Net. A better one could be made - more up to date and complete.

    Korzybski and Crowley, plus Abreaction therapy, and also hypnotism, Pavlov, and Nietzsche,...
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    Since it's mainly a social event, where people meet and chat with each other, that would be the primary reason for going.

    Also having interesting quests - who are willing to hang around and chat...
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    From two founding Scientologists both of whom were on the first Class 8 course on the ship:

    DartSmohen, February 2008:


    I guess it is time to put some truth out about OT3.

    I was there when...
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    Interview with David Mayo with author Russell Miller, 1986: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/miller/interviews/mayo.htm

    Article by David Mayo on Clear, late 1980s:...
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    I'd recommend that the individual also consult all available information sources, such as books, blogs, and this MB.

    In my opinion, Scientology requires a warning label.

    The warning label...
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

    If you were asked about what to do, by persons interested in the "Scientology Bridge," would you recommend that they do OT 2 and OT 3?

    I could post some...
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    I never thought he was God either.

    However, my views of the subject of Scientology, and its technology, have changed over time.

    Haven't yours?
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    Re: What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

    What's not new information to you?

    That Scientology technology contains toxic mind games placed there by its founder?

    That the person whose convention you're chairing is a rip off artist?
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