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  1. Re: 1974-82 Miami Org @ Brickell Ave/early Giralda Ave/OP Z, anyone?

    I was in Op Z. Ostensibly I was LA OP Z but I was "temporarily" sent to the Miami Org for about 6 months. It actually was one of the best periods of my life. We had the most incredible team of...
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    Re: Debbie's Interview

    Ah. Thank you. First time I ever saw that explained.
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    I agree with Veda on this.

    A specific example:

    I knew someone in the Miami Org who had paid for a bunch of auditing. She and...
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    Re: Debbie's Interview

    I hear you. And I respect your viewpoint.

    I also see great irony in this quote:


    And yet I got gains. I saw and experienced positive effects from the tech. So I continue to use what works for...
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    Re: No-sex Sea Org Policy

    We are in complete agreement on this.

    Sometimes I can take on someone's viewpoint enough to imagine why they feel/behave the way they do, even when I disagree with that viewpoint. But this is...
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    Re: No-sex Sea Org Policy

    I doubt that was the problem. LRH spent several years apart from his wife (especially while she was in jail)... so by your logic the policy would be based on, "If I can't get any, YOU can't get any."...
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    Re: Interesting...

    First, I'm not quite sure how this follows from what I wrote. But... okay. :-)

    Also: I think that it varies by the time when you were involved and by the culture of the specific org. When I was...
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    Re: Could the Co$ survive with a Third Leader

    Or how to ditch them; what do you replace them with?

    And how to become a transparent organization, sharing what it's doing?

    And how to take responsibility for all the errors committed in its...
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    Re: Debbie Cook's Trial

    I stay clear of the fighting. I don't see that it benefits anybody.

    Again: I walk away from the parts I don't agree with. I use what's useful.
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    Re: Debbie Cook's Trial

    No.

    There is no one single opinion in the freezone. There is a spectrum of opinions.

    At one end are those who feel that LRH's tech is ideal and should be continued without change. Some people...
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    Re: Could the Co$ survive with a Third Leader

    I'm sure they did at some point.

    Few of us like to have someone scream in our faces after all.
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    Re: No-sex Sea Org Policy

    You'll have trouble with this part if you reject any of the Scn tech, though --

    One reason that I was ready to marry my husband a week after we met (actually 3 days afterwards; it took a few days...
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    Re: Could the Co$ survive with a Third Leader

    For good reason.
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    Re: Could the Co$ survive with a Third Leader

    I would not be surprised if that is their desire.

    I would hate it if it happened. Because, to use the Scn term, they are firmly in the valence of DM and LRH at his worst. Perhaps not the violence,...
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    Re: Could the Co$ survive with a Third Leader

    From the outside, it can seem that way, because Apple customers are so passionate (and will shout down anyone who criticizes anything about its products).

    From the inside, though, Microsoft has...
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    Re: No-sex Sea Org Policy

    In the park between the Fort Harrison and the Sand Castle, behind some trees, after dark.

    And once I got a private room in the Sand Castle: every night, when nobody else knew he was coming over. ...
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    Re: Interesting...

    Define "first leave the Church." :-)

    I left the Church in 1980. I still think of myself as a (small s) scientologist because I use and apply the tech every day. (That is: I pay attention to the...
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    Re: Could the Co$ survive with a Third Leader

    I think it could happen. The likeliness of it happening is uncertain, because it would depend on what it took to remove DM from power. And obviously it depends upon who would take over as a new...
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    Re: Debbie's Interview

    It depends -- when and where.

    At the lower levels (both in terms of tech and the administration), it once was a community of people who shared a lot of opinions... not the least of which was that...
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    Re: Debbie Cook's Trial

    I agree.

    After watching this whole drama, I realized the other day... if OSA ever wanted to damage my reputation publicly, all they'd have to do is tell people I was a member of the CofS. That's...
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    Re: OSA's Official DA on Debbie Cook's e-mail

    And that is why so very many people left when the Mayos and other top execs left in 1982.
  21. Re: Scientologist author asks for Amazon reviews of her Anti-Psych book!

    If you think the reviews are misleading, you can always vote them Unhelpful. Because, no matter what I think of the book or its topic, a review that says "it is a great read, I found this story very...
  22. London Review of Books reviews a book about Scientology's history

    In which Rachel Aviv reviews The Church of Scientology: A History of a New Religion by Hugh Urban
    Princeton, 268 pp, 19.95, September 2011, ISBN 978 0 691 14608 9



    In my opinion, the review...
  23. Re: Debbie's Mail and my soon-to-rejoin-the-S.O. Friend in Germany

    My heart breaks for both of you.

    I feel your frustration for all the obvious reasons. The bottom line is that you see someone blindly going into a situation *again* that is primed for failure......
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    Re: Local Fallout from Debbie's email

    In this regard I want to make a distinction between When Things Were Bad and When Things Were Good.

    That event which sparked my trip out the door is in direct contrast to other, very positive...
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    Sticky: Re: HACKED

    Malware comes in waves, whether it's facebook or spam or phishing schemes.

    As I mentioned I had a FB hack attempt in the last few days too -- and I'm not connected to any of these players....
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