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    Re: coming out as an ex cult member

    I explain that I wanted to help people and I saw in the immediate people I was with the extraordinary effect you could have with an organized procedure to make people more themselves and more able to...
  2. Re: How many Scientologists do you think there are?

    I would guess 8000 is low. 50,000 way high.

    Likely around 27,000 Scientologists, of which perhaps 9000 are actually actively regged and online and training and or auditing.
    WAG (wild-assed...
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    Re: Is Tom dating?

    First Tom would have to find himself a life where he's not putting ethics in on the planet with his good buddy.
  4. Re: Scientology and Hypnotism ó Even some ex-members canít admit its central role

    You are thinking of the deep fluttering eyes and walking like a chicken. That's not the hypnotism practiced, what was and is being done is way more long term, done right in front of you with your...
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    Re: How does CofS keep going ?

    :hourglass:

    :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

    Fucking morons. Case gain from donating - who'd believe that??????
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    Re: How does CofS keep going ?

    Yep. You are completely certain of things that are demonstrably not true in any way shape or form.
    Knowingness...
    (Gawd, this whole Scientological thing is such a crock of shit...)
  7. Re: Why do Scientologists feel the need to write up their 2D's needs?

    Yep. Someone to pay for my bridge, who's upstat and lovely and ethical and true to him/herself.

    (blaaaah. just barfed into my throat)
  8. Re: Why do Scientologists feel the need to write up their 2D's needs?

    Like that's hard?

    They write it up because that outlet, writing conditions, following along on the illusion they are in charge and part of a group that encourages (hell, even the illusion that it...
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    Re: 2014 IAS Event

    We ARE the Sedimentologists!
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    Re: what condition is the church in?

    re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...
  11. Re: Ideal Church of Scientology of the Valley will be a "Mecca Org" with a "large cha

    Steps to actually being effective as an humanitarian:

    1) remove yourself from the influences and dogma and attitudes and fixed data of a Scientologist
    2) Go find someone and something to care...
  12. Re: Mark 'Marty' Rathbun: The Scientology Sandbox

    I'm pretty sure Hubbard created it initially as a con, and then around 1953 or 54 he began to believe. He sold himself on his own omnipotence. And then around 1969 or 70, he came to his senses and...
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    Re: This Just In...LA Org Has Gone Sea Org!!

    I would bet it's because having a failing Class V org at the complex is just too embarrassing. Bet Lil'Dave blew his top at the out-PR caused by staff acting homeless and broke, and decided fuck...
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    Re: Scientology stats are UP! :)

    Scientology's decline is exactly proportional to the amount of information available about it. The shore stories don't work when anyone can look up a broader swath of information and refute much of...
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    Re: What did you do??

    I decided that I was still a spirit, still deathless, still learning and willing to experience the lessons life might hold. I decided to label myself Buddhist, and then on finding out more and more...
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    Re: Is Scientology Technology fear motivated?

    Yep. On the one hand they decry "fear mongering" and label people who do that "Merchants of Death". And on the other every single thing they demand money for is the last chance for all of mankind...
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    Re: Am I a Clear ?

    Hubbard was blatant about the whole thing. He said you get what you put your attention on (PDC Lectures, 1952), and then proceeded to fix people's attention on "case" and "the reactive mind" and...
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    Re: Lost my love

    Unfortunately there is no real neutral. Eventually you would have had to participate in Scientology, she would have been brought into ethics and told to stop letting you be yourself (it would not be...
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    Re: WHY SCIENTOLOGY IS FORCED TO LIE

    I remember that certainty. And it took me several years (many years) to realize how thoroughly I had to lie to myself to make that certainty truth. Underneath it there is always this resonating...
  20. Re: MS2: People attack Scientology because they "couldnít apply the tech of Scientolo

    Part of conning a mark is blaming him for failing to understand.
    It's BS.
    I understood very very well, and I had tons of "wins".

    What finally got me to look at why the hell I was bothering...
  21. Re: Scientology spent $42 million for Global Media Center, now needs money to use it

    Exactly. Hasn't gotten to where he/she can admit they were lied to, and even more so, admit that they lied to themselves to stay in. It takes a huge amount of self-deception to remain in the Church...
  22. Re: Scientology spent $42 million for Global Media Center, now needs money to use it

    In other words, to sum up the Ideal Org bullshit - we are hiding your donations in plain sight and there's not a god-damned thing you can do about it.

    And Miscavige can charge back to the...
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    Re: You are a deluded Scientologist if...

    If you say you are a Scientologist you are by definition deluded and deluding others, and you are watching others delude others, and you are most fucking certainly deluding yourself...
  24. Re: Does Scientology create susceptibility to stress?

    Scientological point(s) of view create stress by their nature. The constant dichotomies ("it's only true if it's true for you" vs. "find your fucking MU you dilettante", "we are the free people" &...
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    Re: PLEASE ANSWER QUICKLY!! I WANT TO LEAVE!!

    I am former staff.

    Leave. Walk away, don't show up. Get in contact with family and friends and get away.

    You can't say or do anything directly with Scientology to stay friends or be nice,...
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