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  1. Re: I have found The Blackfoot Indian Medicine Man Old Tom!

    Yeah, makes a bit more sense to me than some of the other theories I've read.

    I also think Nibs misinterpreted some things. MAYBE. Maybe not.

    But if Nibs did so, my guess is that Hubbard was...
  2. Re: OSA Report of Harassment & Spying of Dave Touretzky

    I know that the cult does its best to keep its members off the internet so that they won't find out how fucked things are. But, honestly, in this day and age, it's not such a cut and dried thing....
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    Re: True Core of Scientology

    I don't entirely agree though there's a lot of merit to what you're saying. (yes, I know, I get in trouble cuz I come off like a relativist some time, but, honestly, I had a bellyful of party line...
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    Re: Calling Lotus

    Now, that's the type I'd like to see.
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    Never said or implied that clear wasn't status centric. Actually, when ya look at it, the grade chart and bridge and the various levels and the props people get in the cult for being a this it a that...
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    Sticky: Re: Gratitude ~ The Thread

    I used to not totally get the saying about the best things in life being free, but I do nowadays. Friendship, nature, love, books, music...
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    I think we already had that conversation at least once or twice before and that it's also got nothing to do with Elronius' thread.
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    Yup, that's basically what I was getting at, but somehow it got interpreted as let's suck oatee cock...:banghead::wow:
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    No visio when recalling stuff.
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    I think that the status thingies Elronius asks about in his op is interesting I think Scn'ists have had a status happy thing going on for decades but that the Patron/whale stuff sure added to it....
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    Yeah, and there was plenty of talk about up stats and oh is that guy a Black 5 or a pts type 3 for ages.

    DM did add another layer with the IAS patron stuff, though.
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    What the fuck? I said nothing of the kind, nor was I thinking of it. Jesus fuck.

    I was saying that just having a concept of some people being OT is elitist and status centric. Dunno what planet...
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    Re: $cientology selling Status

    Just the OT stuff is status centric, so it was like this when Hub was around. I just think that DM added another dimension to an already toxic hypocritical situation as he did with a number of other...
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    Re: Hope for Mankind

    I thought this thread was about Tolle.
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    Re: Hope for Mankind

    There are probably many answers.
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    Re: The new ron

    I've heard of a few people who said they used to be Ron.
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    Re: where was mary sue hubbard?

    I always thought so, too. He was in hiding by his own choice, on the run, etc. But I think the end of his life may have been a different story.
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    Re: where was mary sue hubbard?

    But I agree that Hub didn't want anything to do with MSH.
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    Re: where was mary sue hubbard?

    You think it's a kooky theory that Elron was under a sort of house arrest? According to RVY, he may well have been. Possibly murdered, butt full of vistaril, odd timing of his will...
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    Re: Is ron still live!

    My take on Hub in his last years is that he seems to have become a bit of what he called a "DB". The man who said we should be free of our bodies, run them from an exterior vantage point, ended up...
  21. Re: Kudos to Mike Laws Re: Frank Pate Federal Indictment on wire fraud charges

    I clearly need ta-- pun intended.
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    Re: where was mary sue hubbard?

    MSH died several years ago. From what I heard- and I think that was mostly here on ESMB- she had been kept in her house (admittedly a nice one but a prison's still a prison) under guard til the end...
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    Re: where was mary sue hubbard?

    When Hubbard died, DM, reportedly, got her in a room, wouldn't let her leave, and browbeat her into handing over the estate in exchange for
    50K USD and what amounted to house arrest.

    So how...
  24. Re: Kudos to Mike Laws Re: Frank Pate Federal Indictment on wire fraud charges

    I saw that post in 2011, and I'd not forgotten it.

    This did not answer my question. But hey, maybe getting that sorta thing answered is for other folks. :roflmao:

    Sometime I'll haveta wade...
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    Re: Open Letter to John Travolta

    John, if CofS is blackmailing or otherwise coercing you, you could quietly leave without telling them such- without putting yourself on the spI t with MAAs, EOs, HCO staff and such.
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