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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    Look, I have no way, off hand, of verifying something like that.

    I do know you're good buddies with J. Gordon Melton.

    This is a tangled web, and I'm not inclined, at this time, to take the time...
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    That's cute, except that I have never stated that "I heard it from a trusted source" that Jim Beverley was on the OSA payroll, or is working for OSA. Never happened.

    So what's your point?
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    Forgive the snip, but that point is so important.

    Jim Beverley may be a wonderful person, but he is out his depth when dealing with Scientology Inc.
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    I was expecting you to "re-word."

    Two others come to mind, whose judgment I do trust: Stephen Kent and Steven Hassan.

    Neither one is so quick to "re-word." They say what they mean.
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    Again with the "apostates."

    :clap:
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    Apostate is a pejorative term, popularized in modern times by shady groups posing as "religions."



    Read it again, I did not call you a shill for Scientology. I used the word cult, which covers...
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    IMO, Max' "Rons' Orgs" is a cult, however I don't know if it qualifies as a destructive cult.

    I'm not passing judgment, here, on Ron's orgs, or any other sprinter groups.

    Corporate Scientology...
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    You also push Scientology Inc. as a religion, when its religious status is fraudulent.

    No matter how much you may criticize Scientology Inc., you remain one of its enablers by reason of you using...
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    Re: Auditor Training / Auditing in the UK?

    You'd likely find the experience of some "training," and perhaps auditing others (on the benign, non-crazy stuff), and the basic skills and discipline learned, to be of interest.

    Here's an idea:...
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    Re: A request, if someone can help...

    Don't have an e-meter at this time, or access to one.

    There's been a lot of work done with biofeedback in recent times. Have you looked into any of this? The cost may be prohibitive, but there may...
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    Re: Auditor Training / Auditing in the UK?

    Hi Mernez,

    Class V, these days, of course, is Dianetics, preceded by the Lower Grades. In case you haven't seen it, here's an article by former Case Supervisor International, David Mayo, on...
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    Re: Is Jim Beverly on OSA payroll?

    The whole "New Religious Movement studies" has a dubious origin, dating from the 1970s. That's when people calling themselves "NRM scholars" and "NRM experts" started appearing.

    "NRM" was supposed...
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    Re: Scientolipedia - True story of Scn

    What weird pieces?

    Each piece is a part of the jig saw puzzle.

    Assemble the pieces of the jig saw puzzle and a picture appears.

    One sees Hubbard and Scientology as they actually are.
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    Re: Scientolipedia - True story of Scn

    It occurred to me that there's not much that can be said to someone who's had access to the Internet for years and still mostly accepts Hubbard's tall tales; none the less, since it only takes a few...
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    Scientolipedia - True story of Scn

    Pretty much a fuzzy but, essentially, positive picture of L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology, as something good attacked by evil forces and, subsequently, driven, by these evil forces, into making some...
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    Re: Scientology on the ground in Ferguson

    It's wisdom like 'The Way to Happiness' booklet that can't help but bring peace to a troubled bunch of "wogs" (Scientology term for "garden variety humanoids") on this planet, the planet teegeeack...
  17. Re: Church of Scientology Office of Special Affairs Black Ops

    :)




    Quoting from the post to which you responded:



    ...when posting something about a heavily consored site - in this case, blog - wouldn't it make sense to use a title that could be...
  18. Some historical reference

    From L. Ron Hubbard's 3 June 1973 confidential 'Intelligence, Its Role' http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/4D-19.pdf All capitalization and parentheses in original.:

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  19. Re: Scn black ops on FZ: from BIC

    :) Google search brings up text, not just titles.

    PS, Also, when posting something about a heavily consored site - in this case, blog - wouldn't it make sense to use a title that could be...
  20. Re: Church of Scientology Office of Special Affairs Black Ops

    The "Don't break the law" line is similar to the "Don't tell lies in PR" line.

    Both have footnotes attached to them.

    "Get clearance" means - especially for low level personnel - get an OK to do...
  21. Scn black ops on FZ: from BIC

    Here's post # 25 by Dave Soroka:

    "It seems so silly, really, all this trouble and intrigue and expense. If the Church would simply put LRH back at the helm and toss the midget into a fifty year...
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    Re: Do most blacks hate Bill Cosby?

    I'd have to agree, if Bill Cosby, as a wealthy show business celebrity, felt a need to drug and rape women - and in an environment where there were many sexually free women anyway - then he would...
  23. Re: Church of Scientology Office of Special Affairs Black Ops

    I haven't the time or inclination to format this properly, but the below is a sampling, and - for any lurkers - may convey something that may be of assistance.





    "Elizabeth / March 18, 2010...
  24. Re: Church of Scientology Office of Special Affairs Black Ops

    Here's the Amprinistics document (The 'Treatment' section is towards the end of the doc): http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/3750

    The 7 March 1965 HCOPL 'Suppressive Acts, Suppression of...
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    This should be interesting.

    Will 'Scientologists Back In Comm' permit an actual examination and discussion of the above documents?

    Or will the rule against denigrating Hubbard prevent that?
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