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A being is responsible for his own condition. But, Scientology is attacked and failing because of SP's, not because of their own actions.

1. All-nighters/lack of sleep
2. Getting reamed by execs
3. One uniform to wear 7 days a week
4. Rice & Beans
5. CMO Messengers
6. Athlete's foot

I was there :D It was so fun back then. The place was really booming.
From what I know, John Woodruff was recruited to be the ED LAD and then later was busted from that post (don't know why). ...

I believe the first picture is of Sandra Goldman. Not sure about the second one. The third one is Paulien (sp?) Lombard, who has been speaking out against the church and has been declared.

Just...

I've gotten FB messages like this, too. Not from the org itself but from public Scientologists. It's just so freaking ridiculous. To think that they can tell people who they should be friends...

Darn!!! I was so excited by the OP until I saw it was a joke :bigcry:

Good one!

OutFO38

Anyone heard of the assist to help someone who is dying to "drop their body" peacefully? The command is "Keep your head from going away" or something along those lines.

Any experiences with...

Aw, come on! Don't you know that these 4 VM's can help more than ANY other disaster relief worker with just one command - "Feel my finger."

I agree! I think Scientology should be a self-help business, not a religion. I do think there is value in the basic, lower-level stuff.

I believe that we all have what may be called "psychic abilities". I believe this because I believe that everything and everyone is basically just energy and that we are all connected and are ONE. ...

I stayed in the Sea Org for a couple years even though I roller-coastered pretty regularly, wanting to go home. Every time I would start to have doubts I would get handled by some senior exec who...

Love it!

Good one!

Awesome thread!

You might be a Scientologist...

If you sincerely believe that our own overts cause us to pull in our misfortunes but also sincerely believe that all attacks on the COS are...

I doubt there is a reference on masturbation being an overt. I think it's just people acting upon false ideas.

True - but the one thing lacking is actual proof of the crimes that someone could see with their own eyes, rather than just hearing about it. If the beatings or other crimes were on video and shown...

I agree that it may not wake up all of them, but at least some would surely have to walk away after that! But, yeah, some people would find a way to explain it away - they must have done something...

Toady - how cool that you wouldn't accept masturbation as an overt while auditing! That gets 3 hip-hip's in my book!

I don't remember seeing a reference from LRH that masturbation is an overt. ...

A friend and I were having a discussion about Scientology last night. At one point we were talking about what exactly would be needed to wake up those Scientologists who are still heavily involved...

I agree that sex and masturbation are normal. But yet, what overts are always pulled first in sessions of male SO members? Yup - masturbation.

Hi Tina! Welcome :)
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your friend as well as how you were treated by him and the Scientologists.
OutFO38

Haha! I find it so funny how every single flippin' event is touted as the best ever!!! Something every man, woman and child MUST SEE!!! Then you go and the new release is just some re-packaged...

Thanks for the responses guys. It's not going to be pursued - just wanted to get opinions about it. There's more to the story but I can't really give any other details. Sorry to be so annoyingly...

Interesting. I wonder why he had so much cash on hand?

Just to clarify - there was no intercourse, just "heavy petting" as they call it.