If Study Tech Ruled the World

[Been Done Had]

What would the world look like is study tech was used universally?

Take medical school. The US has some of the best medical education in the World. What would it be like with study tech? I imagine a six year program would get drawn out years by checksheets, clay demos and word clearing. Imagine a clay demo of the edocrine system.

Study tech assumes an inherent stupidity. I have no arguments about some of the basics. But when applied in all its glory the results are pedantic and cumbersome.

What would a study tech law school look like? The first year would just be world clearing.

I think study tech works great for studying Scientology, for enforcing a thought system based on unique language and concepts.

In wog professional training, it seems to be a hindrance.

[SchwimmelPuckel]

I'd be poopy pants about that!

And study tech is not the only 'practice' in CoS that assumes, and indicates, to you that you are considered a moron... So does TR's and all that touch the wall and bottle stuff.. Made me feel like I was treated like a particularly dense kid.

[Axiom142]

BDH,

I disagree. I think that there are many elements to study tech that are workable and valuable.

Knowing what words mean is the cornerstone of Study Tech and this makes a lot of sense to me. How can you really understand a text if you cannot understand the individual words? Also, demonstrating things in clay has often helped me to understand things more completely, if only because I have to think about things more in order to represent them in such a fashion.

I think that the real problem with Study Tech is the subject that it is usually connected to. There are so many inconsistencies and nonsensical concepts in Scientology that one is bound to get confused. You are told to apply something that is supposed to always work, and yet you can see that it doesn’t.

It's enough to send anyone mad.

Axiom142

[EP - Ethics Particle]

What would the world look like is study tech was used universally?

Take medical school. The US has some of the best medical education in the World. What would it be like with study tech? I imagine a six year program would get drawn out years by checksheets, clay demos and word clearing. Imagine a clay demo of the edocrine system.

Study tech assumes an inherent stupidity. I have no arguments about some of the basics. But when applied in all its glory the results are pedantic and cumbersome.

What would a study tech law school look like? The first year would just be world clearing.

I think study tech works great for studying Scientology, for enforcing a thought system based on unique language and concepts.

In wog professional training, it seems to be a hindrance.

I advance this as a tentative opinion:

Perhaps it depends upon one's literacy level upon entering whatever subject is to be studied, learned and applied.

For example, I was very literate when I approached scn - and consider "study tech" as practiced in the CoS a time waster for the most part.

But, that said, I have seen "study tech" produce remarkable gains in the literacy levels of many. Particularly when a person is "playing catch-up" in that area.

Judiciously applied as appropriate, it (study tech) could possibly be used to advantage by the individual on a self determined basis.

MU phenomena is pretty damn accurate, observable and classroom teachers could use it to advantage I believe.

The barriers to study are OK too in my experience and observation.

To strictly apply "study tech" across the educational systems of the planet would be a freakin' disaster!

Your next-to-last paragraph above is certainly accurate as written, IMHO.

(Note I do not like this incomplete answer, but will post it anyway just for kicks and comments!)

EP

[Been Done Had]

Axiom

I'm mixed about study tech because I recall my bogging issues and MUs all being centered around Scientology definitions, twisting meaning so that common words are abducted by new concepts. Maybe I have a little BPC still.

EP

I think you nailed it, I was thinking in terms of high achieving students; medical students and law students who are pretty damn capable.

Study tech is good for diagnosing remedial students, but will only get in the way of the fast and capable.

Per Scientology universities would be empty as they do not have word clearing and all the students would have blown.

I have seen MU phenomena and experience it, but I also think you can plow through a text and learn a hell of a lot from it without clearing everything. I think it's a minor thing, MUs that is.

[Tiger Lily]

I advance this as a tentative opinion:

Perhaps it depends upon one's literacy level upon entering whatever subject is to be studied, learned and applied.

For example, I was very literate when I approached scn - and consider "study tech" as practiced in the CoS a time waster for the most part.

But, that said, I have seen "study tech" produce remarkable gains in the literacy levels of many. Particularly when a person is "playing catch-up" in that area.

Judiciously applied as appropriate, it (study tech) could possibly be used to advantage by the individual on a self determined basis.

MU phenomena is pretty damn accurate, observable and classroom teachers could use it to advantage I believe.

The barriers to study are OK too in my experience and observation.

To strictly apply "study tech" across the educational systems of the planet would be a freakin' disaster!

Your next-to-last paragraph above is certainly accurate as written, IMHO.

(Note I do not like this incomplete answer, but will post it anyway just for kicks and comments!)

EP

That's exactly the way I see it too EP -- well stated, incomplete or not.

Study Tech was actually one of the things that I found workable that led me down the path into Scientology.

I applied it in the classroom with great success -- even with upper level students. The operative word is "judiciously applied". . . .but making sure that the kids knew the terminology inside and out, and giving them the mass of the complicated things they were learning -- clay demos were a fantastic resource. IMO gradients are obvious. . . or should be. I had many students coming back from college telling me they still remembered what they learned from me, that other students they knew crammed and forgot.

Very basic stuff actually -- should be common sense to any educator, LRH trained or not, though it isn't always.

But I actually think this was a valuable contribution on the part of LRH.

-TL

[Axiom142]

Axiom

I'm mixed about study tech because I recall my bogging issues and MU all being centered around Scientology definitions, twisting meaning so that common words are abducted by new meaning. Maybe I have a little BPC still.

EP

I think you nailed it, I was thinking in terms of high achieving students; medical students and law students who are pretty damn capable.

Study tech is good for diagnosing remedial students, but will only get in the way of the fast and capable.

Per Scientology universities would be empty as they do not have word clearing and all the students would have blown.

I have seen MU phenomena and experience it, but I also think you can plow through a text and learn a hell of a lot from it without clearing everything. I think it's a minor thing, MUs that is.

BDH,

I can well understand your point of view. I’ve been on the verge of tears in a Scientology courseroom due to the (perceived) stupidities of those around me and the unwillingness to actually listen to what I was saying, if the supervisor didn’t understand or it disagreed with Hubbard.

And that’s a very good point about empty universities. If Study Tech was that vital, most, if not all, students would blow or be totally unable to apply what they had learned. And, conversely, all Scientologists who complete the Student Hat course would be able to learn anything and apply perfectly everything they had learnt.

This is clearly not the case.

Axiom142

[Tiger Lily]

BDH,

I can well understand your point of view. I’ve been on the verge of tears in a Scientology courseroom due to the (perceived) stupidities of those around me and the unwillingness to actually listen to what I was saying, if the supervisor didn’t understand or it disagreed with Hubbard.

And that’s a very good point about empty universities. If Study Tech was that vital, most, if not all, students would blow or be totally unable to apply what they had learned. And, conversely, all Scientologists who complete the Student Hat course would be able to learn anything and apply perfectly everything they had learnt.

This is clearly not the case.

Axiom142

That's true as well, and one of the best ways to teach a kid to speak is to speak to them like an adult, use big words and improve their vocabulary. You don't define words to a baby, but the ones who've been read to the most, are the most prepared for school and life.

You just have to use common sense on how and when to use it.

I too, have awful memories in the courseroom, of endless word clearing on something Ron said that just didn't make sense. . . .even going to ethics. Oh my head hurts just thinking about it~
-Tl

[Alan]

What would the world look like is study tech was used universally?

Take medical school. The US has some of the best medical education in the World. What would it be like with study tech? I imagine a six year program would get drawn out years by checksheets, clay demos and word clearing. Imagine a clay demo of the edocrine system.

Study tech assumes an inherent stupidity. I have no arguments about some of the basics. But when applied in all its glory the results are pedantic and cumbersome.

What would a study tech law school look like? The first year would just be world clearing.

I think study tech works great for studying Scientology, for enforcing a thought system based on unique language and concepts.

In wog professional training, it seems to be a hindrance.

Study Tech does rule the world! - Just not Hubbards Study tech!

There are levels you can study that if your already literate in the area - you hardly ever need to look up a word - it is one of the first things I rehab in PT - the more able you were in many cases - Scio Study Tech would lessen your abilities.

Alan

[Alan]

That's true as well, and one of the best ways to teach a kid to speak is to speak to them like an adult, use big words and improve their vocabulary. You don't define words to a baby, but the ones who've been read to the most, are the most prepared for school and life.

You just have to use common sense on how and when to use it.

I too, have awful memories in the courseroom, of endless word clearing on something Ron said that just didn't make sense. . . .even going to ethics. Oh my head hurts just thinking about it~
-Tl

Spot on TL