I think something critical is getting missed here. There are two questions:Originally Posted by lkwdbids and me
1) Was the universe designed?
2) Do we have objective evidence that the universe was designed?
These questions are independent. Even if you say Yes to 2), you might still say No to 1), because sometimes evidence is misleading. Plenty of important scientific theories have flourished for a time, and then been discarded, because although there was some evidence in their favor, eventually more evidence accumulated against them. And certainly you might say Yes to 1) but No to 2).
Whether intelligent design should be taught in schools as a part of science is entirely about question 2), and not at all about question 1). So scientists are NOT saying that any particular phenomenon DEFINITELY WAS produced without design. They're only saying that, from what we know, it EASILY COULD HAVE BEEN produced without design. That means that there is no evidence for design, and so design has no place in a science curriculum.
In every case I know, as far as I can tell, everything easily could have been produced without design. Arguments I have heard to the contrary are really bad arguments, based on basic ignorance, sometimes even on stupidity. In fact I believe in design, at least in some sense. So I say Yes to question 1), but No to question 2). And I believe strongly that intelligent design should NOT be taught in school science courses.