Scientology's gagging history, what's the latest?

[chuckbeatty]

"...E. .... Beatty agrees never to create or electronically post or
publish or attempt to publish, and/or assist another to create for
publication or posting by means of newspaper story, magazine, article,
book or other similar form, any writing, or to broadcast, or to assist
another to create, write, film or video tape or audio tape, electronic
posting, any news program or movie, concerning his experiences with,
knowledge of, or information concerning, the Scientology religion, or
any of the Releasees, or any of their respective staff, former staff,
parishioners, or former parishioners. Beatty acknowledges that the
obligations set forth in this subparagraph will remain in force in
perpetuity. ..."

(email me if you want a copy of this legal agreement I signed...)


I wonder if exiting Sea Org members are today, in 2009, having to
sign, on video, like I did, similar "agreements" which are clearly
anti free speech.


If Sea Org members are signing legal clauses like this above, then
what Tommy Davis said on TV to Mr. Baca from KESQ is a stretching of
his reassuring statements about how the church respects people's right
to free speech.


This above legal agreement I signed was completely unecessary for me
to have signed, IF Scientology truly allows free speech of its ex
members.


I'll freely send copies of my agreement and Elliot Abelson's letter to
anyone.

[NOTQuentinStrub]

Chuck,

That agreement is to prevent members of the Sea Organization from discussing freely (with media or otherwise) the details of any confidential materials they may have been exposed to.

[Dulloldfart]

Chuck,

That agreement is to prevent members of the Sea Organization from discussing freely (with media or otherwise) the details of any confidential materials they may have been exposed to.

It doesn't say that at all. Plus Chuck didn't do any upper levels.

Paul

[Twin A]

Hi Chuck, I never got a copy of my agreement. How did you get a copy of yours? I would like you to email it to me, it is probably the same or similar wording. I had to say I wasn't signing under duress on a video camera too.

The truth is, I WAS under duress, I think a threat of punishment if one DIDN'T sign the document, means you are under some kind of duress, no? It wasn't like I actually walked into that room of my own free will, I was being threatened with an SP declare! And I had security guards with me. And they had all my personal belongings, my passport, my birth cert and my diaries and photos and everything I owned, in the back of a pick up truck outside on Ivar street. And they had all the bullshit in my PC folder to use to try and discredit me and call me crazy if they wanted to. Oh and I had three tooth aches too, and a headache, it wasn't one of my best days....

[Dulloldfart]

I signed something like that too, in similar circumstances. Except no aches. I was really happy to be finally "allowed" to leave without getting declared.

Paul

[owl]

so annoying

i hate how they lie about stuff. "i've never heard that xenu stuff before" and so on. stop lying! it makes you look worse

[chuckbeatty]

Hi Chuck, I never got a copy of my agreement. How did you get a copy of yours? I would like you to email it to me, it is probably the same or similar wording. I had to say I wasn't signing under duress on a video camera too.

The truth is, I WAS under duress, I think a threat of punishment if one DIDN'T sign the document, means you are under some kind of duress, no? It wasn't like I actually walked into that room of my own free will, I was being threatened with an SP declare! And I had security guards with me. And they had all my personal belongings, my passport, my birth cert and my diaries and photos and everything I owned, in the back of a pick up truck outside on Ivar street. And they had all the bullshit in my PC folder to use to try and discredit me and call me crazy if they wanted to. Oh and I had three tooth aches too, and a headache, it wasn't one of my best days....

Hi,

I wrote about the details, if you read my august through sept 2004 postings on my site.

I was very tame, very pro them, very neutral, I sounded cooperative to them, I was super nice on the phone with Elliot, told him I'd have to have some lawyers look at the doc.

It's so funny, remember? I told Elliot I'd have to get some lawyers to look at the doc, and then I'd decide.

SO I guess that sounded like a good enough reason for them to send me the doc, so I could get my lawyers to look at it.

If you look at my Aug and Sep 2004 postings, and around that time period, I talk all about Elliot's phone call, etc.

Remember, I wrote about calling Gerry Armstrong right after finishing my phone call from Elliot, and I told Gerry that Elliot strongly suggested I NOT use Ford Greene. And I started promoting Ford Greene, remember, just because Elliot told me NOT to use Ford Greene as a lawyer, remember?

I was in touch with you even, back in 2005, when you got out and somehow contacted me, remember?

[Iknowtoomuch]

Very nice offer Chuck.

Yes the lies get deeper and deeper.

[Zinjifar]

Heh. Chuck, you mentioned on *ARS* that they wanted you to sign it

They were shitting bricks.

Zinj

[Terril park]

Hi,

I wrote about the details, if you read my august through sept 2004 postings on my site.

I was very tame, very pro them, very neutral, I sounded cooperative to them, I was super nice on the phone with Elliot, told him I'd have to have some lawyers look at the doc.

It's so funny, remember? I told Elliot I'd have to get some lawyers to look at the doc, and then I'd decide.

SO I guess that sounded like a good enough reason for them to send me the doc, so I could get my lawyers to look at it.

If you look at my Aug and Sep 2004 postings, and around that time period, I talk all about Elliot's phone call, etc.

Remember, I wrote about calling Gerry Armstrong right after finishing my phone call from Elliot, and I told Gerry that Elliot strongly suggested I NOT use Ford Greene. And I started promoting Ford Greene, remember, just because Elliot told me NOT to use Ford Greene as a lawyer, remember?

I was in touch with you even, back in 2005, when you got out and somehow contacted me, remember?

I remember you posting on such matters as you say.

I remember you then, as probably now, being willing to be friends with anyone. Even me.

I have other data from other people that suggests Ford Greene is one damn good lawyer.