Ex Sea Org Shares Her Experience

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[Sir Facer]

Well no Exageration here, Ive witnessed everything she said, I also experienced the berthing in L.A. when I was on training there and she is so right about the bathrooms, I shared one shower & toilet with 13 girls for over 3 months and it is so out hygine!!!. The cleaning was done once a week.....yep yuk.....1 min showers... I remeber being up at the crack of dawn so I could have a decent shower. I felt so sorry for a girl who I shared with from an ORG who had been on her OEC FEBC for 5 years and she had 3 kids and a very unhappy husband.... I can't imagine what it would have been like for her living like that for 5 freaking years!!! Good thing this girl only had 2 weeks of hell, she's not stupid. Well done on witnessing how wrong it really is & getting out. No one has to live like that.

[Ladybird]

Yes it is all true about the EPF, and told in such a matter of fact manner. 7 years RPF myself and another year Rpfs RPF waiting for the final oK to do a special A to E that included non disclosure documents and a promise to never to talk to my declared family and friends.

OOooops OSA, you forgot about family and friends and caring and love.

Any one in the cult, no matter how long it has been there are parents and brothers and sisters and husbands and wives and kids and friends and relatives who do still care and have missed you and will help you, as will many of us exes you don't even know.

Just reach out, post here, pm us, we will help as we are able. We understand and you are not alone.

[byte301]

Yeah, her story brought back a lot of memories. I watched her part 2 and 3 also. She talks about them not letting the newbies have cell phones. They are only allowed to talk on their 1/2 day (if they even get that) off. The ethics officer locks all the cell phones up in her office.

When I was in I could at least go to the apartment building across the street from The Manor and call on the pay phone.

Talk about controlling.

[CornPie]

Post #14 below shows all 5 videos by Niki.

Newbies -- If you can't afford cash for an el-cheapo T-Mobile or V-Mobile "prepaid" phone from a Target or 7/11 store -- maybe your parents will buy one for you, and preload it with adequate funds. A T-Mobile phone can be preloaded with a $100 card of talk time, that's 1000 minutes at .10 (us) per minute, and with that particular card, the minutes won't expire for a year, by then you'll probably quit the seaorg anyway. Also use it to send/receive text messages, and if you get a camera phone you can email pictures and short movies to mom and dad from inside the org. Be sure to disable all the phone beeps, and set the ringer to vibrate. You just need a place to charge it. If you mess up, just toss the phone and phone number, and get new "prepaid" ones. The world is dying to hear your stories (well I am anyway). There's no need to "play fair", God knows they don't.

[Kookaburra]

To find more videos by the same person on Youtube you just click on "more from ______" on the right hand side, then choose what you want to view next. You need to use the Youtube link, though, not the embedded version. That's at the top of the picture in the original post.

[Bea Kiddo]

1) Nicky -- Issue #1 was great audio-video. This is the real thing -- I want more-more-more. How do I find parts #2 and #3 on the Internet. If possible, I hope you edit and add links to parts #2 and #3 on the initial ESMB web page, before the 24 hour web page change limit times out. But if you miss the deadline, no problem, just post #1, #2 and #3 in a new "thread", we'll understand. Please, just give us more.

2) Newbies -- Screw scientology, just pay "cash" for an el-cheapo T-Mobile or V-Mobile prepaid phone at a Target or 7/11 store, and buy prepaid cards for the minimal .10 cents (us) per minute. The scilons will not know you have the phone, and if you leave the volume down and set it to "vibrate", you can send and receive text messages. If you screw up, just "burn" the previous phone number and phone, then buy a new el-cheapo prepaid phone, and start over. The world is dying to hear from you. We want more-more-more. Moms and Dads of refugees -- sneak cash to the inmates, so they can buy T-Mobiles & V-Mobiles to communicate with you. More cash is better than less cash. Be sure to write up your success stores on ESMB -- ExScn.net. Isn't your son or daughter worth it? Don't you want someone else's son or daughter to return home, because of your efforts? There's no need to "play fair", God knows the scilons do not play fair.

It's a great idea, but money is a barrier. Unless you have a relative who is somewhat in good standing that sends in money (not covertly, just sends it in) without any specific reason stated. Then when visiting them, mention this idea.

No-one on Sea Org pay could afford a cell phone, period. SO pay, for some, is 11 dollars a week. And you have to buy your own coffee. And cigs, and person hygeine supplies and so forth. Max pay for SO is 65 dollars. That is for ministers who have filed for exemption and been approved by the IRS (like me).

[CornPie]

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[byte301]

She was in the EPF and says they aren't allowed cell phones. She also was in a room with 8 other girls. The chance of her being able to hide a cell phone for long isn't very good living under such conditions.

[Iknowtoomuch]

It's a great idea, but money is a barrier. Unless you have a relative who is somewhat in good standing that sends in money (not covertly, just sends it in) without any specific reason stated. Then when visiting them, mention this idea.

No-one on Sea Org pay could afford a cell phone, period. SO pay, for some, is 11 dollars a week. And you have to buy your own coffee. And cigs, and person hygeine supplies and so forth. Max pay for SO is 65 dollars. That is for ministers who have filed for exemption and been approved by the IRS (like me).

I recently talked to an exSeaOrg member that was there well after I was and he said one month he got about 12 dollars total......for the whole month not a week.