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    Here is a good aerial photo of the running tree (using a zoom lense).

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    Quote Originally Posted by programmer_guy View Post
    codo ergo sum
    I think it's "cogito ergo consume" :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by programmer_guy View Post
    Here is a good aerial photo of the running tree (using a zoom lense).
    . Where was that photo taken, at Gold Base?
    . Is it close to the golf course, it looks well manicured, sort of like a sand trap.
    . The manicuring looks like it started on the inside, with a pull behind contraption, round-and-round to the outside.
    . Where is it in relation to SP hall?
    . Who took the photo?
    . How was it taken, helicopter, private airplane, jet, etc?
    . When was it taken? Today, a month ago, a year ago, a decade ago.
    . Are there any photos showing people running.
    . Is it possible to zoom in further to see faces.
    . Any more details?
    . Looks like somebody took a couple of laps around the outside.

    . Notice the evenly spaced poles around the outside perimeter.
    . I estimate there are 16 poles, 8 FT tall, and 12 FT apart.
    . Equating to 48 sheets of 4 FT x 8 FT plywood to conceal from bystanders.
    . If true, the outside diameter would be 192 FT.
    . Construction and engineers reading this, what are your ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by knn View Post
    I think it's "cogito ergo consume" :D
    My sig line is sort of a play on words. Rene Descartes said "cogito ergo sum" which means "I think therefore I am" (I did a term paper on this in college).

    I write software code for a living (as a profession). IOW, I code. So I deliberately screw up this word "code" into a fake Latin word "codo".

    "codo ergo sum" = "I write software therefore I am".

    This is supposed to be mildly amusing. But you might groan. Engineers have a weird sense of humour sometimes.

    :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornPie View Post
    . Where was that photo taken, at Gold Base?
    . Is it close to the golf course, it looks well manicured, sort of like a sand trap.
    . The manicuring looks like it started on the inside, with a pull behind contraption, round-and-round to the outside.
    . Where is it in relation to SP hall?
    . Who took the photo?
    . How was it taken, helicopter, private airplane, jet, etc?
    . When was it taken? Today, a month ago, a year ago, a decade ago.
    . Are there any photos showing people running.
    . Is it possible to zoom in further to see faces.
    . Any more details?
    . Looks like somebody took a couple of laps around the outside.
    That pic was taken by D-Rad (used to be a poster on OCMB). He was flying over the Gold area a few years ago and took a few pics from his private plane. (He has a VFR license.)

    I've met him in person probably about 2-3 years ago to go and visit Tory at one of her "parties".

    Did I answer your questions adequately?
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    Gee, Cornpie. I never could find references on the Happy Valley scene on YouTube. This OSA is scarey. That little man who got out of the car with that sour dark soul and was going to make a citizens arrest..I've seen him before. Who is he? His face was in a google link I found somewhere last week.
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    Default Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) -- Forced Pole Running Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinjifar View Post
    ...If you violate the law in getting [pole running] 'evidence', you are likely going to be the person arrested...
    ...And, the Cult would love it...
    . Zinjifar, we both view "pole running" from a legal perspective.
    . But I view it as an extreme human rights abuse too, by scientology's RPF.
    . So I think it's an obligation to expose live pictures, and risk the consequences.
    . I say; first expose the atrocity, second advise law enforcement.
    . The cult would not love it, they'd be ducking for cover in embarrassment.
    . I want to see live video of forced pole running RPF punishment.
    . And I want to see amateur home videos by people who were involved, please!

    Google Satellite Map Two Circles: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,0.008036&z=17
    (The top circle at mid-screen, looks like the one that on Post#11 of this thread. A smaller circle below it, is less visible to buildings.)

    Street Level Picture of Entrance: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...5&z=18&iwloc=A
    (If you look closely enough, there's a guy inside the guard shack, looking out at us from the right window. Then if you click 2-3 times to the left, there's a girl with a nice body heading down the street, and she's got a sexy walk. BTW, the sprinklers were turned off that day).

    QUICK! Do You Recognize These 14 People: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...6&z=19&iwloc=A
    (Quick, before the pictures disappear -- continue clicking down the street to see all 14 people, this is the street out front of Gilman Hot Springs, plus there are two people on the other side of the street). There's an entire thread devoted to this map at: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=10853

    Looks Like a Penitentiary to Me: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...78260869565213
    (Maybe Miscaviage is a prison-warden for the CIA. No wonder he's such a nasty cuss.)

    Notes: Drag the ORANGE MAN from the top-left corner, onto any street.

    I first heard about scientology's "forced pole running program" from the guy who duped me into the church, in the late 1970's, I did not believe him at that time. But it's been going on long enough. The cops have had time enough.
    Last edited by CornPie; 12th April 2009 at 07:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CornPie View Post
    . Notice the evenly spaced poles around the outside perimeter.
    . I estimate there are 16 poles, 8 FT tall, and 12 FT apart.
    . Equating to 48 sheets of 4 FT x 8 FT plywood to conceal from bystanders.
    . If true, the outside diameter would be 192 FT.
    . Construction and engineers reading this, what are your ideas?
    Not bad. I remember reading a pilot issue on the running pgm at New World Corps in 1986 and what I recall is Hubbard saying the running track should be *exactly* 200 feet across because that was the exact distance of the thetan from the implanting device in the incident. I remember thinking that the unnamed implanters were unlikely to be using feet and inches and to have it coincidentally such a round number would be odd, to say the least.

    I won't bother to say now what I think of it all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    ...I remember reading a pilot issue on the running pgm at New World Corps in 1986 and what I recall is Hubbard saying the running track should be *exactly* 200 feet across...
    Google Map of Gold Base Circles: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,0.008036&z=17

    I think your 200 FT "across" estimate based on data you read, makes more sense than my earlier 192 FT "circumference" estimate. Here are three reasons why:

    1) I based my estimate on a picture alone, with nothing else nearby to compare it to.

    2) Towards the bottom of the picture, there's a wannabe soccer/football field, which are usually about 300 FT long. And the running circle is about 2/3 the length of the field. In other words 200 FT.

    3) I assume that's an apartment building to the top of the picture. If those units are 25 FT wide, stacked 8 side-by-side, 25 * 8 would be 200 FT. These are approximations, but come "close" to the width of the top running circle.

    I first heard about "running around poles" as punishment in the late 1970's, from the guy who duped me into scientology (I passed off what he said at the time, even though he was very serious about it). Regardless of that, maybe the guy that reg'd me was referring to a predecessor of the New World Corps pilot issue which you read about 15-ish years later, in 1986. In fact, maybe a predecessor to the 200 FT wide top-circle, is the smaller circle, a bit harder to find, but it's near the bottom of the picture, which appears to be about half as wide as the top circle. How long has Gold Base been at that property? What was located at the Gold Base property before scientology, how long have the circle(s) been there, any satellite imagery, any exes know, do any locals know, was it the CIA? Paul, do you still have that 1986 issue, is there any way to do a "readable" photostat of the issue, and upload to an Internet picture service?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornPie View Post
    Paul, do you still have that 1986 issue, is there any way to do a "readable" photostat it and upload to an Internet picture service?
    I never had it. I only saw it once or twice. Sorry.

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