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    In case there is still any doubt about the circular track, it is still there.


    Photo taken Oct 26 08, with 500 mm lens from the side of Hwy 79. Note the lawn chair for the security guards watching people run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonOrange View Post
    ...In case there is still any doubt about the circular track, it is still there...

    ...Photo taken Oct 26 08, with 500 mm lens from the side of Hwy 79...

    ...Note the lawn chair for the security guards watching people run...
    I'd like to see a picture, or a video from that vantage point with runners on the track, with names, faces, showing what they were wearing. Also can't we find out if there's an in-door running track, and if so, in which building.

    Google Satellite Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...82887449868047
    (This Google Map is taken, I think, from roughly the same position as the photographer who supplied you with the hi-resolution photo, above. The vantage point is to the right of the evergreen tree, and to the left of the building.)

    I estimate it's between 800-1000 FT from the running track to any of these:

    a) directly to Highway 79 (but I'm not sure if there's a fence there).
    b) out the front gate.
    c) to the river bed (if a helicopter were waiting, again not sure about fence).

    This calculation is based on Paul's statement, and my rough concurrence, that the running track is 200 feed across. The runners should be in pretty fair condition, having done so much running lately. So the worst case scenario should be a 2 minute jog to go 1000 feet, or about 1/5th of a mile.

    If possible, they should confiscate the radios, cell phones, or other communications devices, from the guards who are watching them; 1) in order to listen in, and 2) prohibit such from being used to stop them. Do not get involved with any firearms that may be present, other than to possibly disable them by removing ammo and throwing it far away. I doubt they're going to shoot you in the back if you're running away, but you decide, it's your life. In the video above, Jesse Prince talks about people at Gold Base having firearms, so be warned. It would be desirable for escapees to have mace, just in case it's needed to put off anybody from trying to stop them from getting to the getaway point, which is their constitutional right to escape. Do not engage in any conversation, whatsoever, just proceed to the getaway point as quickly as possible, every second will count. And if they don't have mace, pretend like they do. A signal from the road could advise the runners that it's time to make a go for it, such as a series of truck-or-car horn toots. Then immediately make a go for the pickup spot(s), jump in the getaway vehicle, and go. Be sure to give the finger to anybody who's upset, and blast Rick-Roll music. And I want to see that on YouTube, be sure to get their voices, and faces with a camera that's as still as possible. It might help if a cop, who's not in the pocket of scientology, just happened to be driving by, and if s/he had knowledge of and access to the California prisoner under duress book, that AnonOrange was referring to. Once the escapees are on-board, don't waste any time, get out.

    After that, an attempt could be made to get additional escapees of opportunity, into another vehicle. A loud speaker could announce to the compound, "If you want to BLOW BLOW BLOW, you have exactly 1 minute to drop what you're doing, and get to highway 79, exactly 1 MINUTE, 1 MINUTE, beginning NOW".

    When making plans, do not use phones, email, or computers. Assume that all electronic devices are compromised.
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    I'd like to help people blow out of Gold Base, but I think it's going to be difficult, particularly if we expect them to jump the fence, unharmed. The whole compound is fenced in and it's got federal prison type security.

    It'd be great if we could get "fresh meat" from there. (sorry to use that term, but I could not help it).

    The best way I think is to force an investigation of Gold Base. That's what I'm working on and I hope lots of you are trying to do the same. There are many angles to trigger an investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonOrange View Post
    1) ...I'd like to help people blow out of Gold Base...

    2) ...but I think it's going to be difficult, particularly if we expect them to jump the fence, unharmed...The whole compound is fenced in and it's got federal prison type security...

    3) ...It'd be great if we could get "fresh meat" from there...

    4) ...The best way I think is to force an investigation of Gold Base. That's what I'm working on and I hope lots of you are trying to do the same. There are many angles to trigger an investigation...
    Long story short -- You're there, I'm not. But if you come across a smoking gun, I hope you expose it first. I hope you do not get sucked into withholding it, because some cop promised you the moon, strong armed you into being silent to "protect their case", BS'd about all the bad guys they were going to take down, and then sits on the case, while they investigate it, forever. Meanwhile there are innocently duped pawns inside the cult, being mind-screwed, daily.

    1 -- We can "help" by keeping the conversation alive, keeping the pressure on, the pictures coming, like the two you've recently come up with. Who knows what's going to rear it's face next week. Anybody who wants can help, they don't need any permission, they don't have to go through anybody else. In fact if they do go through somebody else it will only slow the process down, and they'll get talked out of it. They can post smoking guns right here, on ESMB. We know that scientology lies, deceives, sucks people in under false pretenses. We know they harass people who speak out against them, it's a crock of crap so-called "religion". Exposing that is a noble cause. By the way, to those "listening" I still want to see pictures and videos of real live people doing pole running, with faces, dates, times. I want to see victims point a camera at themselves, and upload it to YouTube, I don't want to "skim through text", there's enough of that out on the Internet already, and it does not have the effect that video would. Videos like this are a smoking gun. If the cops have this "evidence" and aren't doing anything about it, it's clear fraud, a cover up. The best thing to do is the expose it the world, the worst thing to do is give it to the cops so they can bury it for 20 years. They've had 40 years, what else do they need?

    2 -- Federal style fences, doesn't necessarily mean federal. But I've always said I think a portion of scientology is the CIA. How else could they have gotten away with so much for so long? So now I know there's a fence around the entire facility, I wasn't sure of that before. I didn't see one in the previous picture you provided, I can't see a continuous fence on the YouTube walking man walk, but I will certainly take your word for it AnonOrange. But anyway, let's suppose they're not federal, they just buy their fences from the same source. Let me ask you this -- and would you PLEASE not ignore this. What is the feasibility of a runner exiting right out the front gate. From the pictures I've seen they don't close the front gates during the daytime. So do they or don't they, please.

    3 -- Sure I'd like to see the "fresh meat" get out, but I place the same emphasis on the old timers too, anybody who wants out should have an opportunity. Because they were all sucked in with deception.

    4 -- You go ahead, and gab for an investigation all you want. I'm not holding my breath. This crap has been going on for 40+ years. I think it's a safe assumption that nothing will become of any investigation, it will all get swept under the carpet, we'll never find out anything, it will drag on forever, and 20 years from now it will be the same crap. Because they'll find some legal reason for you to keep your trap shut about evidence you know about, because it's "being investigated", while they sit on it, forever. We're somewhere between fairly-sure and certain, that they are denying people their right to vote, forcing them to inhumanely run around poles. When I hear talk about an "investigation" about "evidence", it sounds legal. I'm more concerned about the immediate "human rights" aspect. I say expose the practice, which will hopefully stop it, then let the cops put the villains in jail. The cops could complain about somebody going live with evidence, and that hampered their legal case. But the fact is, would they have really put the bad guy in the big house. I'm more concerned about getting the good guys out of the big house, while they can still do something with their life. There are people inside right now, who are counting on outsiders to keep this alive.
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    Somebody has to free the minds of the "inmates" first. It's very scary thinking about trying to escape, because you've been made to believe it's impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn Fountain Campbell View Post
    1) ...Somebody has to free the minds of the "inmates" first...

    2) ...It's very scary thinking about trying to escape, because you've been made to believe it's impossible...
    1 -- Freeing the minds of the inmates, well put, a challenge.
    How many would walk out if they weren't fenced in? Certainly some.
    The percentage would be much higher for RPF'ers, maybe even most of them.

    2 -- I suspect the scarier part is, if they try to escape, and fail, the RPF will be relentless with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornPie View Post

    2 -- Federal style fences, doesn't necessarily mean federal. But I've always said I think a portion of scientology is the CIA. How else could they have gotten away with so much for so long?
    ^^^^!!!! THIS

    I've suspected this CIA connection for years which could be attached to how they got their tax exemption.

    http://cryptome.info/0001/cia-2619.htm

    Note two names on the list: Lil' Davy and Heber.

    We need moer on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    ^^^^!!!! THIS

    I've suspected this CIA connection for years which could be attached to how they got their tax exemption.

    http://cryptome.info/0001/cia-2619.htm

    Note two names on the list: Lil' Davy and Heber.

    We need moer on this.
    Are you serious? But here's a comment on that list: Heber was the PR point man, the visible guy for the press to talk to. He never had any real power in the CofS, despite his title. Which shows the list as meaningless for the purpose of "exposing the CIA connection."

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    Default Palm Tree Removed from RPF Running Track at Gold Base??

    During the Gold Raid protest, on April 19, 2009 (at 7:04 into this video), YouTube's XenuSmurf on his video #1, states, "Well that's the infamous, ah running track. When you're in RPF, you run around in circles for hours upon end. And if that's the running track, it looks like they've removed the palm tree. It was in the middle of it that you run around. But ah, that is the track."

    He states, "...it looks like they've removed the palm tree..."

    Would someone please confirm this statement? In other words, you personally saw the tree there before, but now you see that it's gone. All of the pictures I've seen, left something to be desired. Even the ones from above lacked dates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iknowtoomuch View Post
    All true. I didn't see a single thing in that video I didn't experience myself.
    How do they continue to get away with it, when so many people have witnessed it?

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