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Thread: Adell and Ernest Hartwell -- Shock and Awe in the Early Days of Gilman Hot Springs

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    Default Adell and Ernest Hartwell -- Shock and Awe in the Early Days of Gilman Hot Springs

    In 1982 the City of Clearwater held hearings about a 1979 scientology kidnapping of Adell and Ernest Hartwell. They were deceived about going to Clearwater, FL, but ended up in Gilman Hot Springs, CA in the early days; with snakes, scorpions and bugs. The living conditions were crude, and scientology refused to let them leave.

    Fast forward to 8 minutes when the lawyer starts rambling:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ll+scientology
    I stumbled on this at XenuTV: http://www.xenutv.com/hearings/hartwell.htm
    Here's Lermanet's transcript: http://www.lermanet.com/82cwcommission/3-251-300.htm
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    This is quite a video. I just watched all of it. Well the part of the yelling, swearings.... is right and still in used right now. The staff are being treated like piece of crap. Not all the time but when something is going wrong. You can't do whatever you want because you are right away written up or put back into production. At the end of the video, it mentionned also data from PC folders or Ethics files being used against one. Well still in used right now. I remembered many times OSA (the person in charge of the external security) coming in and requesting PC folders and ethics files of people. This was used by them against others most probably.
    My PC folders was used to get data before I left. In the legal document I signed, there was stuff in there regarding out ethics which had come up in auditing. This was done to used against me if I would speak. This is weird. I did not care because I wanted to get out. So I signed it. I knew another staff also who did not want to sign the paper so they put him back on sec checking for weeks until he decided to sign the paper. He did but to get out.

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    Cornpie,
    Do you have the other videos for the next witnesses ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8-8008 View Post
    Cornpie, Do you have the other videos for the next witnesses ?
    I stumbled on it at: http://www.xenutv.com/hearings/hartwell.htm
    There are a bunch of next-previous links on that page...

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    This is well worth watching. (I listened to the whole thing) When you read the strories of BFG and Twin A, you see nothing's changed.
    Last edited by AnonOrange; 28th April 2009 at 05:04 AM.
    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" Voltaire.

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    Wow, Vids like this is MORE PROOF that lrh was SICK!!! God.
    The night I escaped Staff:
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost....2&postcount=33

    I get really tired of hearing about how the lower bridge has value. The lower bridge has the sole purpose of getting the PC to reach for more bridge. The fact that many people improved their circumstances as a result of a good intentioned auditor being interested and caring about his PC is not worth the long term and intended result of Scientology technology. GT

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