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    As reported in B.Z. magazine

    Hardly growth for Scientology
    22. April 2009 15:29 clock
    Scientology has been estimated by the Berlin Constitutional in the capital is not successful. There was hardly any members increase, and earning the organization in Berlin, despite their efforts not much money, said the head of the Berlin Constitutional, Claudia Schmid, on Wednesday before the relevant committee of the House of Representatives. "Even from the political sphere, there are no affinities. Since proposing massive rejection against them. "

    The controversial organization defines itself as a church, but by critics as a cult seen. The number of members will be in Berlin at around 200 are located. Scientology was the beginning of 2007, in Charlottenburg, a so-called capital of representation opened. The Senate directed that in September 2008, a champagne Beratungsstelle On. The interior ministers of countries had on the advice of Verfassungsschützern against a ban on Scientology, but for a very observation.

    Sorry for the grammatical errors, I am using google translate because I can't do it by myself.

    This is also from B.Z. regarding the new Spandau mission. Sorry for the more gramatical errors.

    Neighbors want sects from home office complaining
    12. April 2009 04.50 clock, Ole Krueger; Thore Schroeder
    You want to Scientology at all costs from the house - if necessary by judicial decision: "If Scientology Hausverwaltung not announced, then we complain," says Ralph Peters Spandau (43). Three days ago, the sect has a branch in the Spandauer Charlotte Street was opened.
    Peters lives with his wife and three children near the New Scientology offices. "I do not want my children into the clutches of this ominous association advised. Therefore I will be after Easter when Bezirksamt inquire whether Scientology can rausklagen there," said Peters. In addition, the engineer wants his lawyer einschalten.Auch other neighbors from the Charlotte Street to the new tenant does not simply accept them. Tree helpers Stellke Werner (47) lives with his wife Monika (44) in the neighboring house of the cult offices. "The administration has us on this new tenant is not informed. We will therefore complain," says Stellke. Scientology had ever been due to residents' complaints in the office Charlottenburger Meinekestraße admit. Ralph Peters: "For this reason, I am convinced that the sect with us need to take off soon." Collaboration: T. Schroeder

    One more for good luck:
    Scientology opens branch in Spandau
    11. April 2009 08.30 clock, Ole Krueger
    Residents are shocked, politicians suggest alarm. Scientology has in the Spandauer Altstadt a branch was opened.
    Lanzen Thomas (26) and Carsten Troch (30) reside in the same house in Charlotte Street. "We were totally shocked that so easily here in the Old Town open up," said lances and wonders: "When gambling halls, there was trouble, but Scientology is probably okay?" The CDU wants to open the sects offices on the same topic in Parliament make. "As the Spandau district apparently had no knowledge about the activities of Scientology had, the question arises why the Constitution the district has not informed," says the CDU politician Andreas security Gram.Die SPD in Spandau also warns against Scientology, has opened but abandoned. "Scientology is also in Spandau as little success as in other places in Berlin," said the Spandau district SPD chairman Raed Saleh. "Our residents are smarter and do not fall to the extremely expensive promises salvation Scientology as a sect here." Entering 2007, Scientology in the Otto-Suhr-Allee its Germany headquarters opened. Their branch in Charlottenburg, the sect close. According to tenants' complaints, they were in August 2007 of the lease in the Meinekestraße been terminated.

    If any one has been to Berlin, specifically Spandau you will know why opening a mission here is disasterous. Let me know if anyone has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexm View Post
    Residents are shocked, politicians suggest alarm. Scientology has in the Spandauer Altstadt a branch was opened.

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    who trnslated this article?, its very funny with all the german words just thrown in....
    If you post the german version I'll translate it for you if you like.
    Thanks

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    Ok let me do that because this was my attempt to do it via Google translate as my German is not good enough. It is Scheise I know.

    Ok auf Deutsch...

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    Kaum Zuwachs für Scientology
    22. April 2009 15.29 Uhr
    Scientology ist nach Einschätzung des Berliner Verfassungsschutzes in der Hauptstadt nicht erfolgreich.
    Es gebe kaum Mitgliederzuwachs, und die Organisation verdiene in Berlin trotz ihrer Bemühungen auch nicht viel Geld, sagte die Chefin des Berliner Verfassungsschutzes, Claudia Schmid, am Mittwoch im zuständigen Ausschuss des Abgeordnetenhauses. „Auch aus dem politischen Raum gibt es keinerlei Affinitäten. Da schlägt ihnen geballte Ablehnung entgegen.“

    Die umstrittene Organisation bezeichnet sich selbst als Kirche, wird von Kritikern aber als Sekte gesehen. Die Zahl der Mitglieder soll in Berlin bei rund 200 liegen. Scientology hatte Anfang 2007 in Charlottenburg eine sogenannte Hauptstadtrepräsentanz eröffnet. Der Senat richtete daraufhin im September 2008 eine Sektenberatungsstelle ein. Die Innenminister der Länder hatten sich auf Anraten von Verfassungsschützern gegen ein Verbot von Scientology, aber für eine Beobachtung ausgesprochen.

    Zwei)
    Nachbarn wollen Sekten-Büro aus Haus klagen
    12. April 2009 04.50 Uhr, Ole Krüger;Thore Schröder
    Sie wollen Scientology um jeden Preis aus dem Haus haben - notfalls mit richterlichem Beschluss: "Wenn die Hausverwaltung Scientology nicht kündigt, dann klagen wir", sagt der Spandauer Ralph Peters (43). Vor drei Tagen hat die Sekte eine Filiale in der Spandauer Charlottenstraße eröffnet.
    Peters wohnt mit Frau und drei Kindern unweit des neuen Scientology-Büros. "Ich will nicht, dass meine Kinder in die Fänge dieses ominösen Vereins geraten. Deshalb werde ich mich nach Ostern beim Bezirksamt erkundigen, ob man Scientology dort rausklagen kann", so Peters. Außerdem will der Bauingenieur seinen Anwalt einschalten.Auch andere Nachbarn aus der Charlottenstraße wollen die neuen Mieter nicht einfach akzeptieren. Baumpflegehelfer Werner Stellke (47) wohnt mit seiner Frau Monika (44) im Nachbarhaus des Sekten-Büros. "Die Verwaltung hat uns über diesen neuen Mieter nicht informiert. Wir werden uns deshalb beschweren", sagt Stellke.Scientology musste schon einmal wegen Anwohnerbeschwerden ein Büro in der Charlottenburger Meinekestraße räumen. Ralph Peters: "Aus diesem Grund bin ich überzeugt, dass die Sekte auch bei uns bald ausziehen muss."Mitarbeit: T. Schröder

    Und drei)Scientology: Nachbarn klagen
    11. April 2009 16.56 Uhr, O. Krüger und T. Schröder
    Nachbarn wollen das Spandauer Büro der Scientologen aus dem Haus klagen.
    Sie wollen Scientology um jeden Preis aus dem Haus haben – notfalls mit richterlichem Beschluss: „Wenn die Hausverwaltung Scientology nicht kündigt, dann klagen wir“, sagt der Spandauer Ralph Peters (43). Vor drei Tagen hat die Sekte eine Filiale in der Spandauer Charlottenstraße eröffnet.

    Peters wohnt mit Frau und drei Kindern unweit des neuen Scientology-Büros. „Ich will nicht, dass meine Kinder in die Fänge dieses ominösen Vereins geraten. Deshalb werde ich mich nach Ostern beim Bezirksamt erkundigen, ob man Scientology dort rausklagen kann“, so Peters. Außerdem will der Bauingenieur seinen Anwalt einschalten.

    Auch andere Nachbarn aus der Charlottenstraße wollen die neuen Mieter nicht einfach akzeptieren. Baumpflegehelfer Werner Stellke (47) wohnt mit seiner Frau Monika (44) im Nachbarhaus des Sekten-Büros. „Die Verwaltung hat uns über diesen neuen Mieter nicht informiert. Wir werden uns deshalb beschweren“, sagt Stellke.

    Scientology musste schon einmal wegen Anwohnerbeschwerden ein Büro in der Charlottenburger Meinekestraße räumen. Ralph Peters: „Aus diesem Grund bin ich überzeugt, dass die Sekte auch bei uns bald ausziehen muss.“

    Das ist gut ja!
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    cant do it right now, but will look at it later today.

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    22. April 2009 15:29
    The Berliner office for the protection of the constitution states that Scientology has not been succesful in the the capital, Berlin. There has hardly been an increase of members, and inspite of their efforts are not making much money, said the head of the ofice for constitutional protection, Claudia Schmid, on Wednesday in front of the relevant committee of the House of Representatives. "Also in the political sphere, there are no affinities. In fact a mutual rejection accross the boards is what they experience "

    The controversial organization defines itself as a church, but seen by ist critics as a cult.
    The number of members in Berlin is estimated at around 200.
    At the beginning of 2007 Scientology opened a building, which is meant to be the main office and represent the cult in Germany’s capital.
    For this reason the government set up a special citizens advice-centre in the capital in 2008.
    The interior ministers of all the various other parts of Germany have decided not to ban scientology altogether, but to keep it under strict observation.

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    Neighbours want to get the cult-office out of the house they are currently in, and will be taking them to court over this matter.

    12. April 2009 04.50 Uhr, Ole Krüger;Thore Schröder

    They want to get scientology out of the house at any cost, even if it takes a court decision to do so.
    „If the house administration doesnt terminate their tennancy contract, then we will take them to court“
    said the Spandauer Ralph Peters (43).
    Three days ago the cult opened a local office in the Spandauer Charlottenstrasse,
    Mr. Peters lives in the vicinity of the local scientology office with his wife and three children.
    „ I dont want my children to sucked into this contraversial cult. That’s why, after Easter, I will be looking to see if we can get scientology out, by means of a court order“
    The civil engineer of the house also wants to get his lawyer involved in the case.
    Other locals and neigbours of the area dont want to accept the new tennants.
    Jason Beghe is my hero!

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