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    Quote Originally Posted by nw2394 View Post
    Yeah - either you're OSA - or you sit there at your PC tracking down every conceivable connection with Kn and any vaguely associated name you can find - i.e. behave like B1 GO anyway.

    I've had it with you.

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    Without taking sides here, if you Google as I just did >>>virginia boswarva knowledgism<<< it takes you straight to a page giving Virginia's surname, and if you then Google her name and nothing more the first hit is her Linked-In profile. No deep sleuthing required to find the connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    Without taking sides here, if you Google as I just did >>>virginia boswarva knowledgism<<< it takes you straight to a page giving Virginia's surname, and if you then Google her name and nothing more the first hit is her Linked-In profile. No deep sleuthing required to find the connections.

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    Or as I did originally, google "roger" and "knowledgism" (just two words after it became apparent to me that he was a knowledgist) and on the first page of hits;

    http://www.abilityconsultants.com/aci_who.htm

    I may not have even known Rogers last name before that! And hadn't even heard of Virginia. I didnt do anything major to find any of the information I did. But I am good at intuitively knowing what links to follow.
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    Hey Rog, could you please acknowledge my pm's to you? A simple F*** off will do, just so I know you read them. Or if you haven't, and dont want to, let me know here so I dont keep sending them.

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    Are you ok, alex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinaire View Post
    Are you ok, alex?

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    People sometimes treat Alex unfairly on this board and it's starting to get to him.

    I understand.

    If I was a Fairy Princess in a Rugby Match, or a NanoTechnologist at a Monster Truck Show, I would be a little miffed, too.

    You should move out to the cornfields, Alex, and we could discuss Nagarjuna and Tetralemmic Logic in one of the bars around here.

    At least you'd have one friend.

    And so would I!
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    Just like the CofS, Alex creates his own enemies. He seems to enjoy that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Termint View Post
    Just like the CofS, Alex creates his own enemies. He seems to enjoy that.
    I understand Alex.

    And have a lot of respect for him.

    I don't know - I can't help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Termint View Post
    Just like the CofS, Alex creates his own enemies. He seems to enjoy that.

    I won't mind helping Alex with Idenics, if he asks for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanzo View Post
    People sometimes treat Alex unfairly on this board and it's starting to get to him.

    I understand.

    If I was a Fairy Princess in a Rugby Match, or a NanoTechnologist at a Monster Truck Show, I would be a little miffed, too.

    You should move out to the cornfields, Alex, and we could discuss Nagarjuna and Tetralemmic Logic in one of the bars around here.

    At least you'd have one friend.

    And so would I!
    It's so unfair how a scientologist is treated on an ex-scientologist message board when he or she uses Hubbard's secret scientology PR tech on the ex-scientologists!

    Alex is OK 'though because he has Ron's implanted certainty to protect him from all the evil SP's on ESMB.

    Alex came on this thread with some, I thought, valid criticism of Knowledgism. At least a cirtique that warranted discussion. When confronted with accusations that he was running an OSA-style op on knowledgism, he responded by accusing his accusers of "always attacking, never defending". This is a perfect Scn PR action. Accuse the acusers of what they are accusing you of. It is also exactly what DM and TD are doing to Rathbum and Rinder.

    It seems scientology black tech is alive and well on ESMB. It is designed to take the victim "down-tone" into anger and apathy.

    Alex took a valid critique of a squirrel group's tech, showed how similar to Scn it is and how they use similar dissemination techniques and then having identified them in the readers' minds as an altered form of Scn, accused the squirrel group of using black Scn PR techniques for handling critics! QED - that "proves" they are scientology squirrels still using scientology!

    Then Alex and his friends go all hurt and offended when the squirrels who were the victims of their op, get angry or hurt or critical! It is a perfect Hubbard reverse black ARC tech application.

    It's a perfect misrepresentation trap, grounded in a part-truth, which Hubbard taught his disciples.

    My guess is that "Alex" knew that the knowledgists would never seriously debate his criticism, especially due to the already existing antagonism between him and them.

    It was a deliberate scn black PR op. This thread was always addressed to knowledgism's potential audience, it was never really addressed to the knowledgists, they were just used to influence the thinking of ESMBers - to get ESMBers to identify knowledgism as an inferior squirrel version of the purer Scn thech.

    This black PR tech is periodically used on ESMB. Hubbard's tech is alive and well.

    All you do is take something that has a grain of truth in it or a part-truth, misrepresent it, ridicule it, misrepresent it again, ridicule, misrepresent, etc and when the person is goaded into defending themselves you can turn around and say that that "proves" what you originally said was true.

    Alex is not the only person who does this. Misrepresentation and goading have been used on ESMB to silence critics. Hubbard's tech is alive and well and even may be used by those who don't realise they are using it.

    Rathbun, in his reply to Alanzo, warned against scn trolls being used to drive critics into apathy. The above black scientology tech has been used by trolls (scn ones or exes) to silence critics.

    It is in the CofS's interests to allow ESMB to keep going so that it can be used for these black PR ops as well as, of course, for intelligence gathering purposes.

    Sorry, Alanzo, your appeal for sympathy for Alex doesn't work on me. He is a self-confessed scientologist and therefore liable to any criticism of Scientology and Hubbard's dirty little tech tricks, especially when he is observed using them.

    If you are a true friend, you could perhaps suggest to him that he knocks off using Hubbard's dirty tech or alternatively you could choose to support him and his dirty games. Which sort of friend are you Alanzo?
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    Acting toward a Scientologist like a "Scientologist" won't help.

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