My Question to Marty Rathbun

[Alanzo]

I emailed Marty.

Here's what I said:

Hi Marty, I'm Alanzo from the Ex-Scientologists Message Board.

I asked myself: What would be the one question, that if asked to Marty Rathbun, would produce the most benefit for my friends at ESMB?

So here it is:

What is the standard procedure followed by OSA when a new critic of Scientology pops up on the Internet, or anywhere else?

If you could answer that question, then this information could be used to create a lot of peace of mind for a lot of people.

Be as thorough as you can.

Thanks.

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

Good Question Alanzo.

Hope Marty answers it.

In the meantime, it appears that OSA reacts by applying the non-existent policy of Fair Game.

This is done by the procedure of auditing out the analytical mind(denial and censorship) and beefing up the reactive mind with false data.

It suits the CoS purpose of, cleared mind planet.

Only problem is lies are the true enemy of mankind and the CoS alike.

This methodology is the form and function of it's creator. Dangerous!

When it is used it is a barrage of foot bullets.

[Ladybird]

The cult of scientology doesn't practice fair game any more. The cult of scientology doesn't practice fair game any less either.

[Zinjifar]

The cult of scientology doesn't practice fair game any more. The cult of scientology doesn't practice fair game any less either.

The 'Church' of Scientology *never* practiced Fair Game. Being Scientologists, they already knew how to do it to a 't'.

Zinj

[nozeno]

Great, if he answers we can debate about the truthfulness or lack thereof for weeks.

[Alanzo]

Great, if he answers we can debate about the truthfulness or lack thereof for weeks.

I'm hoping to be able to use the information he provides us to help Exes and Anonymous learn more about OSA's tactics and procedures and how to avoid Fair Game. Also, if he can provide any information on PI's they use, hacker tactics they employ, etc. it might be possible to uncover criminal activity and get some OSA members prosecuted.

That's why I am so looking forward to Marty's email answer to me.

[Alanzo]

Marty answered me last night. I was waiting for okay from him to post it, but then re-read my original email to him and realized that he knew it was for posting on ESMB. So, here is what he answered to me:

(Update - When he replied to my email with an Okay to post, he told me he added to his original. I've edited my post to include his additions)

Alanzo,

I don't think there is any standard procedure anywhere in the Church anymore. It is a hey-you org board, and only one guy really gets to say hey you. And that fellow has got some serious issues brewing. I wasn't on that logistical level when I was there but I imagine it goes something like this:

a) Study the poster's pattern, put a profile together and keep adding to it till you get a picture of what orgs he was at, what case level he is, when he likely was there.

b) Get trolls in touch through chat rooms and the like to learn more.

c) Run the profile by Ethics Officers and files and narrow down the identity.

d) Figure out any connections that might be important to the person who value their good standing with the Church.

e) Have the connections approach the fellow and persuade him to knock off the posting.

f) If "d" fails, or if it is not an ex Scnst, get trolls to try to drive the fellow into apathy and off the boards.

g) If the person is a real pain in the ass, get some PI's onto him and see whether you can't get some discreditable dirt on him or intimidate
him into silence.

Incidentally, trolls love to cause conflict among posters. Interesting fact, 25% of the documentation that Miscavige dumped on the Times to discredit me were posts by avowed anti-Scientologists dumping on me. That's right, right up there with the confessionals were a stack of posts off ESMB, OCMB, and ARS saying what a criminal Marty is. Boy that Sitting Bull article on Scientology-cult.com was prophetic, eh?

For guys who do more than simply criticize on message boards, like myself, things get a lot rougher. But, that is for another day.

Quite frankly that OSA NW is a joke now. Miscavige has blown off the only folk who could ever get it to work. Which leads me to the original disclaimer, who knows what the chaos behind the pretty walls might do at this point. Just take another listen to the Tommy Davis melt down on the SP Times webpage. He is channeling Miscavige there. It was unfiltered Miscavige. With nobody left to buffer Miscavige's insanity to the outside world and staff where this puppy goes is anybody's guess.

Sorry if you were looking for more certainty. That is as honest an assessment as I can deliver.

Marty

(via email)

[Alanzo]

I believe that Marty would be very popular and very welcome on ESMB.

And I believe he could do a lot of good here.

[lionheart]

I can confirm that the CofS ran me through Marty's steps a) to f) and eventually tied me up in legal hassles that are still ongoing.

Scientologists are lovely people! Not!

Let's hope he is right and their nasty activities are crumbling under DM's psychotic dramatisation of LRH.

[Alanzo]

So for all you lurkers out there with family still in, I think there is a way for you to start posting on ESMB, and strategizing with others here - without being caught and getting your family threatened.

The key is in Marty's "a)" and "b)" steps:

a) Study the poster's pattern, put a profile together and keep adding to it till you get a picture of what orgs he was at, what case level he is, when he likely was there.
b) Run the profile by Ethics Officers and files and narrow down the identity.

They are heavily dependent on the ORGS and MISSIONS where you were on lines to figure out who you are and work out plans to intimidate you.

So your LOCATIONS are probably the most vital data they can gather.

Therefore:

LIE ABOUT YOUR LOCATIONS.

Give wrong dates and times. Act like you are from the wrong continent.

It doesn't matter anyway: the same shit happens in every org around the world.

Then, work to eliminate all your vulnerabilities from them: Get any family out that's still in. If you work for Scientologists, get another job. If there are Scientologists who owe you money - get it back.

Eliminate any weakness where they can get you.

And KEEP SPEAKING UP.

They can not be allowed to control your life for ONE MORE SECOND.

I hope this helps...