Source of wealth of Scientologists

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

When I was busting ass to make progress on the bridge it irked me no end to read a success story by this attractive young lady in her mid 20's who had made it from raw public to on OT 7 in 2 years and was urging others to move up as it was so easy now.

The omitted data was that as the scion of a wealthy family she didn't have to work for her money and was available for course and auditing at all times as she didn't have to work. And no doubt didn't have to confront too much in life.

I've seen these types join staff and come apart like a $2 watch.

Look at the bright side ... she's probably still in the cult and you're not.

[Panda Termint]

Pushed a button?

Argumentum ad personam anyone? Oh wait, I guess that was pompous.

I may be a pompous A**. But that doesn't mean what I've said is false or invalid. You might try addressing what I've said, as opposed to calling me names.

Hmmm, wait, what does that remind me of -- calling somebody names, instead of making an argument on the merits? Oh yes, Scientology.

Good to see the Scientology training was so beneficial.

Aww c'mon, you're not accusing Alex of the very thing he accuses others of are you? That's not fair, Alex said it first!

[Kha Khan]

When I was busting ass to make progress on the bridge it irked me no end to read a success story by this attractive young lady in her mid 20's who had made it from raw public to on OT 7 in 2 years and was urging others to move up as it was so easy now.

The omitted data was that as the scion of a wealthy family she didn't have to work for her money and was available for course and auditing at all times as she didn't have to work. And no doubt didn't have to confront too much in life.

I've seen these types join staff and come apart like a $2 watch.

As I recall, the old, frequently unspoken Scientology prejudices were:

Sea Org > Class V staff > Public

Training Route > Auditing Route

Perhaps those prejudices were not entirely without reason? They were not entirely irrational? My questions are not rhetorical. Particularly with respect to Training Route > Auditing Route.

When I was in, even as a mere Public, I had this idea (probably just my own, preconceived fixed idea) that it was supposed to be work. We were Clearing the Planet, damn it!

And then I'd see some rich dude, who had inherited his wealth, or was spending daddy's money, just go up the auditing route and I'd get a feeling (entirely unfair and irrational) that he was somehow... cheating... not earning it.

[Achi]

Pushed a button?

Argumentum ad personam anyone? Oh wait, I guess that was pompous.

I may be a pompous A**. But that doesn't mean what I've said is false or invalid. You might try addressing what I've said, as opposed to calling me names.

Hmmm, wait, what does that remind me of -- calling somebody names, instead of making an argument on the merits? Oh yes, Scientology.

Good to see the Scientology training was so beneficial.

Actually, considering having to do bloody bullbaiting, I think Alex and I failed to use our Scientology training. That said, calling you two pompous a$$es is no more ad hominem than you categorizing thousands of people as dumb. Hmm?

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

Actually, considering having to do bloody bullbaiting, I think Alex and I failed to use our Scientology training. That said, calling you two pompous a$$es is no more ad hominem than you categorizing thousands of people as dumb. Hmm?

No it isn't actually. We are making an argument and gave our rationale. Alex and you just called us names. There is a difference.

The Anabaptist Jacques

[Kha Khan]

Aww c'mon, you're not accusing Alex of the very thing he accuses others of are you? That's not fair, Alex said it first!

The difference is that my insult (or what was perceived to bean insult), was backed up by an argument.

[Moonchild]

Is that what a doctor calls a heartbeat or what a chiropractor calls a heartbeat?

There is no reason for you to be offended.

We can express our opinions here. Our opinions, like yours, is based on what we've learned and what we've experienced.

We're different. And I don't rate others on a scale.

But I once had to argue with two very wealth Scientologists who insisted that World War II started when Hitler invaded Israel and ended in the 1960s when Kennedy dropped the atomic bomb on Vietnam.

When I told them otherwise their reply was "You don't have all the data."

And I can tell you even more incredibly stupid things others like them have said and believe.

You can call me any kind of name you like, but don't tell me these people and many of the others like them are intelligent.

The Anabaptist Jacques

re: my bold.

Yes; you don't know whether to laugh or cry really do you? Did you get this stuff from 'The Pilot'....Ken Ogger?

He was a smart guy....and there's the tragedy. He actually believed this, much like Capt. Bill I think. And how did 'The Pilot' end up?

[Kha Khan]

Actually, considering having to do bloody bullbaiting, I think Alex and I failed to use our Scientology training. That said, calling you two pompous a$$es is no more ad hominem than you categorizing thousands of people as dumb. Hmm?

No, as The Anabaptist Jacques pointed out, he and I made an argument and gave our rationale. Alex and you just called us names.

And don't worry, you used your Scientology training to perfection. Never defend, always attack. When (as almost always) a Scientologist cannot make an argument on the merits, make a personal attack and/or change the subject.

Pass. Very well done.

[Panda Termint]

The difference is that my insult (or what was perceived to bean insult), was backed up by an argument.

I agree!

Now, back on topic: The main "cheating" that occurs when someone does the so-called Auditing Route is quite obvious, the PC is cheated.

Hubbard has stated innumerable times that the person will NOT make it to OT without the Training. Registrars and C/Ss that allow people to go the Processing Route are violating very basic Hubbard instructions and thereby expose their own lack of belief in the actuality of the postulated "results" of scientology.

Either that or they think Hubbard was wrong about the necessity for training.

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

I agree!

Now, back on topic: The main "cheating" that occurs when someone does the so-called Auditing Route is quite obvious, the PC is cheated.

Hubbard has stated innumerable times that the person will NOT make it to OT without the Training. Registrars and C/Ss that allow people to go the Processing Route are violating very basic Hubbard instructions and thereby expose their own lack of belief in the actuality of the postulated "results" of scientology.

Either that or they think Hubbard was wrong about the necessity for training.

They believed that Hubbard was right about the necessity of money (for him).

The Anabaptist Jacques