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    Quote Originally Posted by Div6 View Post
    Interest in spirits, telepathy, ESP, automatic writing, communication with non-corporeal entites, preturnatural hunches, etc all pre-date the Hubbardian corpus. Just like decent guitar players, there are few originals, and tons of wanabees.

    I have seen NO originals come from the Hubbardian school either.
    Could you translate please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Hilton View Post
    There is actually no such thing as a clearance level. Its a common myth perpetuated in movies.

    The system is more complex with specific clearances given for specific data.
    Come on... you have a heavy one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Hilton View Post
    Data is classified, not people.

    Its a complex system giving, at higher levels, access to specific data or areas of data. There is no such thing as a broad TOP SECRET clearance.
    Are you in the "chemical errashure of memory" level?

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    Originally Posted by tanstaafl
    It breaks my heart to agree with Mick () but I believe all this RV stuff is bullshit.


    Hate to spill this tid bit of info, I have a privacy side in fact.

    The remote viewing is totally valid.

    Once, when I was "in love" I was able to see through the other person's eyes and feel what they were touching although we were in different locations. All I had to do was put my attention on him and I could see what he was seeing and feel what he was touching where he was.

    This guy was not a Scientologist and I had to write it down to confirm it with him and people who were with him.

    It was remote viewing in that I could see through his eyes.

    I thought, as I was inclined to occupy the same space, that was the key.

    I have never been able to do it since then with anyone else. Mainly because I don't care to walk that "love" road again. It's impossible and impracticle to be in love on that plane and survive, unless the both of you never have to seperate more than a few feet to use the toilet. Otherwise it is painful and impossible.

    Not that I mean to suggest love can only be in that dimension, it flows in many, maybe every dimension.

    But I know remote viewing is possible because I experienced it.

    T.I.

    Crowley: "Magick is the Science of understanding oneself and one's conditions. It is the Art of applying that understanding in action."
    Hubbard: "MAGIC is a very precise study. Most people think of magic in terms of stage magicians or something of the sort. It's not. Magic is not. It is a method of producing effects by using for cause the supernatural. 5203C10.
    Hubbard: "If you want to get real tragic, forget it was just magic."

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    Quote Originally Posted by scientologist1432 View Post
    Are you in the "chemical errashure of memory" level?
    That was a low blow. If you are an educator as you seem to be presenting yourself you cannot move forward without questioning, and patience to answer and teach.

    Enforced education has not been successful.

    Belittleing people who challenge you has no final product but degradation.

    Belittleing Ralph Hilton will get you on my total ignore list if you do it again.

    While you are on to research why not familiarize yourself with the board rules?


    "1. Treat others with respect.
    You are to respect every other user on the board despite any personal, religious and political differences. The following will not be tolerated:
    Personal insults
    Ad hominems
    Threats or promotion of violence".

    Find out where you are.

    You are a guest here and the hostess A.K.A. Captain of the ship has set forth protocal.

    T.I.

    Crowley: "Magick is the Science of understanding oneself and one's conditions. It is the Art of applying that understanding in action."
    Hubbard: "MAGIC is a very precise study. Most people think of magic in terms of stage magicians or something of the sort. It's not. Magic is not. It is a method of producing effects by using for cause the supernatural. 5203C10.
    Hubbard: "If you want to get real tragic, forget it was just magic."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jodie View Post
    Heh heh, no, that's not covered. It is primarily concerned with techniques to break people's will.

    I have just looked up said reference in said book, and I got it wrong - it was not the CIA, but the KGB, supposedly.

    My question to anybody who has a reference: What date did Hubbard first refer to the PDH (Pain-drugs-hypnosis) technique?

    Here is the correct extract from the book, page 24-25:

    "The public was further alarmed in 1955 by the worldwide distribution of Brainwashing: a synthesis of the Communist textbook on psycho-politics. The booklet, which purported to be a translation of a secret speech given by KGB chief Lavrenti Beria in Moscow, detailed Soviet plans for the deployment of the new weapon. It advocated the use of severe interrogation techniques including drugs, torture and "pain-drug-hypnosis" [emphasis mine] which were capable of inducing anything from confessions to sexual perversions in the subject. With the right psychological techniques, said Beria, families could be broken up, interrogation victims driven insane and the careers of politicians wrecked."

    - jodie
    The 1955 date for the "Communist textbook on psycho-politics" would indicate that the original Hubbard "Charles Stckley" version is being referenced, rather than the 1956 Kenneth Goff copy with new Introduction.

    Edward Hunter, who wrote an actual serious book in 1951, a book that popularized the term "Brainwashing," and was titled, 'Brainwashing in Red China', described the "Communist Textbook on Psycho-politics" as a hoax. Only a few far right political groups, and rank-and-file Scientologists, took it seriously. (Hubbard's inner circle knew it was a hoax.)

    There definitely was no "public alarm."

    The term "Pain Drug Hypnosis" originated with Hubbard, although the idea of drug-hypnosis had been around for many years prior. According to former Hubbard confidant, and 1950s editor of Hubbard's books, John Sanborn, the term "Pain-Drug-Hypnosis" originally meant, "Pain drug" + "Hypnosis," and only, slightly later (as known to Scientologists), became defined as (the infliction of) "Pain" (as in an "engram"), with Drugs, and then Hypnosis.

    Hubbard, himself, used "Pain drugs," such as barbiturates (or their equivalent) as far back as the 1930s, mixed with his self-hypnotic 'Affirmations'. (The best known 1946 'Admissions', as they are sometimes called, being the latter Jack Parsons-influenced version of these 'Affirmations'.) The original (1930s) 'Affirmations' would consist of short statements, dictated into a sound-recorder and then played back, with the drugged Hubbard, his conscious mind quieted, being the recipient of his own recorded commands. (Hubbard was self-implanting, in effect.)

    So Hubbard, "PDHed" himself, originally, and as a means of attaining power over others, and obtaining other desired traits.

    Doing a search (or "control" then "F") on PDH and Pain-Drug-Hypnosis, on both the 1955 hoax 'Russian Textbook', and the 2001 'Brainwashing Manual Parallels' should take you to references there on the topic.

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=387

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    Sorry, I think this whole Remote Viewing thing is complete hoo-hah.

    Someone with the strongest ability in clair-voyance still would crack under the surppressive environment of either the cia or scn resulting in a total waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Prince Xenu View Post
    Sorry, I think this whole Remote Viewing thing is complete hoo-hah.

    Someone with the strongest ability in clair-voyance still would crack under the surppressive environment of either the cia or scn resulting in a total waste of time.
    Oh please, what is the church but a central intelligence agency?

    I went clear under all of the hidden agenda's.

    You have no idea how a desperate person can come in and use the motion to win.

    You tell me what the critical decision was you made in this life that effected other people.

    Most people live their entire life and never know what it is to make a critical decisions.

    this is a big game.

    we are not the makers of the game.

    we are the players in the game.

    we are not the broken pieces.

    don't you get it?

    we moved on.

    we are still in the game or we wouldn't be on this forum.

    I know y'all got fucked somehow and that put you sidewyas out you have to come back on what was right and true.

    You came here to begin with because old donctrines were not working.

    Don't go back.

    Please.

    You have to go on.

    The common demonitor of all loosers is incorrent estimation of force.

    It's true.

    Get the force going needed to move forward.

    Going back wards will just get you into what it was that made you explore this arena to begin with.

    Oh man the Cof S turned in to one fucking abortion.

    But, somehow we escaped that didn't we?

    Ask yourself, are you lucky?

    I know I am fucking lucky.

    That is the difference.

    I believe everything is a good omen.

    The rest of you see it as you've been fucked.

    Believe in youself and it will all make sense.

    T.I.
    Last edited by The Oracle; 3rd January 2008 at 10:13 AM.

    Crowley: "Magick is the Science of understanding oneself and one's conditions. It is the Art of applying that understanding in action."
    Hubbard: "MAGIC is a very precise study. Most people think of magic in terms of stage magicians or something of the sort. It's not. Magic is not. It is a method of producing effects by using for cause the supernatural. 5203C10.
    Hubbard: "If you want to get real tragic, forget it was just magic."

    http://www.google.com/logos/2011/lespaul.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by theillusioness View Post
    Originally Posted by tanstaafl
    It breaks my heart to agree with Mick () but I believe all this RV stuff is bullshit.


    Hate to spill this tid bit of info, I have a privacy side in fact.

    The remote viewing is totally valid.
    wow. well that has convinced me. I can't wait to read on and see the proof.

    Once, when I was "in love" I was able to see through the other person's eyes and feel what they were touching although we were in different locations. All I had to do was put my attention on him and I could see what he was seeing and feel what he was touching where he was.
    ah, yet another warm, fuzzy anecdote.

    sigh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Wenlock View Post
    ah, yet another warm, fuzzy anecdote.

    sigh...
    Years of enforced writing of 'Success Stories' creates that ability I've noticed.

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