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    I just received the earnings record from the Social Security office. It lists everything reported from the begining. I hadn't really paid much mind to it before, but I was shocked.

    Check this out: I joined the Sea Org in May of 1989. I left in 2004 (May). I will list income since the begining until 03:

    83: $4.00
    84: 0
    85: $14
    86: 0
    87: 0
    88: 0
    89: 0
    90: 0
    91: 0
    92: 0
    93: 0
    94: 2,576
    95: 2,284
    96: 2,925
    97: 2,140
    98: 1,355
    99: 1,075
    00: 637
    01: 950
    02: 637
    03: 216


    Instead I got a ton of freedom? Who needs money, eh?

    How could anyone blow, even if they wanted to? One year of pay would barely pay for 2 nights in a roach motel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    I just received the earnings record from the Social Security office. It lists everything reported from the begining. I hadn't really paid much mind to it before, but I was shocked.

    Check this out: I joined the Sea Org in May of 1989. I left in 2004 (May). I will list income since the begining until 03:

    83: $4.00
    84: 0
    85: $14
    86: 0
    87: 0
    88: 0
    89: 0
    90: 0
    91: 0
    92: 0
    93: 0
    94: 2,576
    95: 2,284
    96: 2,925
    97: 2,140
    98: 1,355
    99: 1,075
    00: 637
    01: 950
    02: 637
    03: 216


    Instead I got a ton of freedom? Who needs money, eh?

    How could anyone blow, even if they wanted to? One year of pay would barely pay for 2 nights in a roach motel!
    If Tommy Davis were here, what would he ask?

    Weren't you just a part time cleaning lady?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    I just received the earnings record from the Social Security office. It lists everything reported from the begining. I hadn't really paid much mind to it before, but I was shocked.

    Check this out: I joined the Sea Org in May of 1989. I left in 2004 (May). I will list income since the begining until 03:

    83: $4.00
    84: 0
    85: $14
    86: 0
    87: 0
    88: 0
    89: 0
    90: 0
    91: 0
    92: 0
    93: 0
    94: 2,576
    95: 2,284
    96: 2,925
    97: 2,140
    98: 1,355
    99: 1,075
    00: 637
    01: 950
    02: 637
    03: 216
    Mine was similar in the years 1986-1996. They changed something in 1994, i.e. it stopped being reported as 0. You still got paid something for the years prior, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    I just received the earnings record from the Social Security office. It lists everything reported from the begining. I hadn't really paid much mind to it before, but I was shocked.

    Check this out: I joined the Sea Org in May of 1989. I left in 2004 (May). I will list income since the begining until 03:

    83: $4.00
    84: 0
    85: $14
    86: 0
    87: 0
    88: 0
    89: 0
    90: 0
    91: 0
    92: 0
    93: 0
    94: 2,576
    95: 2,284
    96: 2,925
    97: 2,140
    98: 1,355
    99: 1,075
    00: 637
    01: 950
    02: 637
    03: 216


    Instead I got a ton of freedom? Who needs money, eh?

    How could anyone blow, even if they wanted to? One year of pay would barely pay for 2 nights in a roach motel!
    This is criminal, all those hours for peanuts, you would have been better off with peanuts, as least you would have got some protein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    I just received the earnings record from the Social Security office. It lists everything reported from the begining. I hadn't really paid much mind to it before, but I was shocked.

    Check this out: I joined the Sea Org in May of 1989. I left in 2004 (May). I will list income since the begining until 03:

    83: $4.00
    84: 0
    85: $14
    86: 0
    87: 0
    88: 0
    89: 0
    90: 0
    91: 0
    92: 0
    93: 0
    94: 2,576
    95: 2,284
    96: 2,925
    97: 2,140
    98: 1,355
    99: 1,075
    00: 637
    01: 950
    02: 637
    03: 216


    Instead I got a ton of freedom? Who needs money, eh?

    How could anyone blow, even if they wanted to? One year of pay would barely pay for 2 nights in a roach motel!
    That's so right British Mom... how could anyone afford to leave... it becomes "Mission Impossible" ... where's Tom when you need him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    Mine was similar in the years 1986-1996. They changed something in 1994, i.e. it stopped being reported as 0. You still got paid something for the years prior, right?

    Paul
    Yes- 89 to 93 I was paid. However, it was RPF pay, which was 11.50 per week, from 89 to 91.

    Holy rolly pollies!!! I joined in May 88! Not May 89!!! I was RPFed in May 89. Duh.

    May 88 I was 15. Turned 16 in Oct.

    No school during those months, except Saturday morning class. I did some exam and passed and got HS diploma or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    Yes- 89 to 93 I was paid. However, it was RPF pay, which was 11.50 per week, from 89 to 91.
    Paul is bringing up something very important here. Even if it was 11.50 per week it had to be reported.

    I don't believe the money you got was ever an "expense reimbursement" and can be paid in cash, without reporting. Had the CoS been smart, they would have made you fill out expense forms. Because they didn't do thta then the 11.50 is a SALARY and must be reported.

    If you have any proof that your got the money from 89-93, they've got a big problem on their hands. Also, did they match the employer part of the social security 7.65%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonOrange View Post
    Paul is bringing up something very important here. Even if it was 11.50 per week it had to be reported.

    I don't believe the money you got was ever an "expense reimbursement" and can be paid in cash, without reporting. Had the CoS been smart, they would have made you fill out expense forms. Because they didn't do thta then the 11.50 is a SALARY and must be reported.

    If you have any proof that your got the money from 89-93, they've got a big problem on their hands. Also, did they match the employer part of the social security 7.65%?
    The church claims the moneys given to SO is a stipend. And it is given to "religious workers" a class of person who is mostly a volunteer, such as a priest or nun, not there for the simple exchange of labor for compensation, but working for a cause.

    It is a different set of rules than the typical ones more common types of employees are subject too. In some cases "religious worker" compensation is not reported and taxed the same way wages are.

    It will be interesting if the Headly case gets any traction, as it will effect other religions such as catholics that have large numbers of people classed as "religious workers".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipend

    The law on this is on the church's side.....

    (I'm not saying its fair or right, it would be fair or right if SO got decent food, housing, medical, auditing and training, and care in their later years)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex View Post
    The church claims the moneys given to SO is a stipend. And it is given to "religious workers" a class of person who is mostly a volunteer, such as a priest or nun, not there for the simple exchange of labor for compensation, but working for a cause.

    It is a different set of rules than the typical ones more common types of employees are subject too. In some cases "religious worker" compensation is not reported and taxed the same way wages are.

    It will be interesting if the Headly case gets any traction, as it will effect other religions such as catholics that have large numbers of people classed as "religious workers".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipend

    The law on this is on the church's side.....
    Cue the OSA shill, trying to minimize the Church's overts of ignoring the laws of the land and justifying its enslaver mentality.


    The law is NOT on the Church's side. The CoS is an ongoing criminal enterprise that has been scheming to deny civil rights to people from its inception. And you support and defend that slavery and abuse, and even try to characterize it as 'freedom'.

    Good luck with that.
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