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    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    Finally had some time to read some more on "Where Is David Miscavige's Wife?"

    I feel somewhat dumb. I didn't even know she had not been seen in years until I protested with AnonSParrow a few weeks ago in Montreal. He was calling out, 'Where is Shelly Miscavige?" I asked him what he was talking about and he told me.

    As each day, week, and month passes, I am bewildered what this cult is capable of and what they do!
    I know just how you feel. After 16 years in Scn including time in the SO at Flag, LRH Archives base at Twin Peaks, Int base, SH UK, and Pac I thought I had seen pretty much everything in Scn. Many years later I got on the internet and was shocked and dumbfounded by what I was reading. It was so much worse than it was 20 years ago, and so much worse when you hear other peoples stories and realize the crazy shit you saw or experienced were not isolated incidents instigated by some batshit crazy individual who didn't have a clue what they were supposed to be doing. Rather, it was all part of the overall plan of how Scientology was set up to run. And the same stuff was happening all over the world. I was stuck into the computer for about 2 years before I really got a handle on the enormity of the con and the extent of the abuses.

    You haven't been here all that long so I suspect you will be finding out quite a bit more.

    Good to see you are protesting! More exes should get out there, IMO.
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    Having been instructed by Hubbard himself, Miscavige probably feels that he can't be touched by the law. And to an extent, that has been true.

    I wonder about the death of his mother-in-law, Flo Barnett. Her "suicide" involved three rifle shots to the torso and one to the head. Presumably the head shot was the fatal one, although we're supposed to believe that a small woman with several gunshot wounds was strong enough to continue to operate a rifle, until she finished the job. Coincidentally, she decided to "commit suicide" just after she had threatened legal proceedings against the Scientology cult.

    Until the critics and a few brave journalists started asking awkward questions, Scientology got away with an awful lot of things. Maybe more than we know about, even now.

    I hope Shelley Miscavige is alive. Somehow, though, I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeminds View Post
    Having been instructed by Hubbard himself, Miscavige probably feels that he can't be touched by the law. And to an extent, that has been true.

    I wonder about the death of his mother-in-law, Flo Barnett. Her "suicide" involved three rifle shots to the torso and one to the head. Presumably the head shot was the fatal one, although we're supposed to believe that a small woman with several gunshot wounds was strong enough to continue to operate a rifle, until she finished the job. Coincidentally, she decided to "commit suicide" just after she had threatened legal proceedings against the Scientology cult.

    Until the critics and a few brave journalists started asking awkward questions, Scientology got away with an awful lot of things. Maybe more than we know about, even now.

    I hope Shelley Miscavige is alive. Somehow, though, I doubt it.
    This stuff is just crazy. If we could get SOMEONE to just concentrate on this one incident (Flo Barnett's "suicide") I wouldn't be surprised if a whole house of cards would collapse. How does law enforcement justify the discrepancies in this case?
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    Maybe when the missing persons list is longer than the members and staff list then somebody will notice something is amiss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Good twin View Post
    This stuff is just crazy. If we could get SOMEONE to just concentrate on this one incident (Flo Barnett's "suicide") I wouldn't be surprised if a whole house of cards would collapse. How does law enforcement justify the discrepancies in this case?
    I agree. This case is always on my mind.

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    That was my first thought. How is a person able to shoot themselves THREE times with a Rifle? Once, yes; twice, difficult; but three times, not likely. Especially with a rifle. What type of rifle?

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    I believe that standard doctrine for police and the military is to fire a "double tap" (two shots) to the torso, before looking for another target. This is based on the idea that two shots, on target, will do sufficient damage to neutralize any threat. Even if those two shots don't kill, the wounds rob the target of sufficient strength to raise a gun.

    The idea that 'Flo' was able to fire the rifle again after three shots to the chest... well I'd like to know how.

    Based on a quick study of the coroner's report, found at www.whyaretheydead.info and assuming this is genuine, I have some pretty natural questions.

    The husband is reported to have heard a shot, and run into the bedroom... yet Flo Barnett apparently had time to shoot herself three more times? He "found the decedent on the bed, a rifle still in her hand" ... but (with apologies for the gruesome detail) it's far more simple, when shooting oneself in the head, to press a rifle's trigger with the thumb. Holding a rifle normally makes it almost impossible to point it at your own head. Significantly, why did detectives recover five empty cartridges from the scene, when 'Flo' suffered four gunshot wounds?

    Why did the three gunshot wounds in the chest make smaller holes than the one in the head? (Since all wounds were through-and-through, we have no certain way of knowing that they were made with the same caliber of ammunition... which is to say, with the same gun. Do we? I don't know, since I'm not a pathologist, but I'd like to see this question answered.)

    Finally, why is it that gunpowder residue is only reported at the site of the head wound, and not the ones in the torso? Well... I can only think of one reason for that: that the muzzle of the rifle was at least several feet away when it was fired into the victim's chest.

    I'm horrified by the conclusions I have to draw from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeminds View Post
    I believe that standard doctrine for police and the military is to fire a "double tap" (two shots) to the torso, before looking for another target. This is based on the idea that two shots, on target, will do sufficient damage to neutralize any threat. Even if those two shots don't kill, the wounds rob the target of sufficient strength to raise a gun.

    The idea that 'Flo' was able to fire the rifle again after three shots to the chest... well I'd like to know how.

    Based on a quick study of the coroner's report, found at www.whyaretheydead.info and assuming this is genuine, I have some pretty natural questions.

    The husband is reported to have heard a shot, and run into the bedroom... yet Flo Barnett apparently had time to shoot herself three more times? He "found the decedent on the bed, a rifle still in her hand" ... but (with apologies for the gruesome detail) it's far more simple, when shooting oneself in the head, to press a rifle's trigger with the thumb. Holding a rifle normally makes it almost impossible to point it at your own head. Significantly, why did detectives recover five empty cartridges from the scene, when 'Flo' suffered four gunshot wounds?

    Why did the three gunshot wounds in the chest make smaller holes than the one in the head? (Since all wounds were through-and-through, we have no certain way of knowing that they were made with the same caliber of ammunition... which is to say, with the same gun. Do we? I don't know, since I'm not a pathologist, but I'd like to see this question answered.)

    Finally, why is it that gunpowder residue is only reported at the site of the head wound, and not the ones in the torso? Well... I can only think of one reason for that: that the muzzle of the rifle was at least several feet away when it was fired into the victim's chest.

    I'm horrified by the conclusions I have to draw from this.
    I'm even more horrified by the conclusions the coroner drew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Good twin View Post
    This stuff is just crazy. If we could get SOMEONE to just concentrate on this one incident (Flo Barnett's "suicide") I wouldn't be surprised if a whole house of cards would collapse. How does law enforcement justify the discrepancies in this case?
    That could be. Wouldn't look good for Miscavige.

    And nice to hear from you, GT.
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