Quantum Mark VII

[Outethicsofficer]

I have a Quantum Mark VII e-meter for sale complete with electrodes and leads it is still in silver cert.
Open to reasonable offers.

[AnonOrange]

You're the guy I met that has two Quantum VII's right? You're in LA right?

Please don't sell it yet. I have an important test to do with two identical e-meters.

I'll meet at your convenience.

Thanks.

[Feral]

Hope you can swim AO.

He's an Aussie.

[lambear]

I have 3 quantums to sell if anybody wants them. Not currently in cert. All with cans. 1 solo arm.

[Zinjifar]

I would not recommend getting involved in any of AnonOranges 'science' experiments until he manages to set a hypothesis to be tested.

A word to the wise guy.

Zinj

[AnonOrange]

I would not recommend getting involved in any of AnonOranges 'science' experiments until he manages to set a hypothesis to be tested.

A word to the wise guy.

Zinj

Here's Zinj, the GSR expert guy who refuses to answer simple questions.

The hypothesis was VERY clear from day one: "The meter does not measure changes in the body, such as body mass density changes postulated by LRH, but rather, the meter is mostly affected by grip and sweat on the cans" That was VERY clearly proven by Paul's experiments.

Hypothesis is no longer. It's now call a fact:

The e-meter is bullshit.

[alex]

Here's Zinj, the GSR expert guy who refuses to answer simple questions.

The hypothesis was VERY clear from day one: "The meter does not measure changes in the body, such as body mass density changes postulated by LRH, but rather, the meter is mostly affected by grip and sweat on the cans" That was VERY clearly proven by Paul's experiments.

Hypothesis is no longer. It's now call a fact:

The e-meter is bullshit.

Risking a thread derailment, but proceding anyway...the meter doen't just read the body's mass but the mass or resistence of the body and mind combination.

Perhaps you can demo this by testing live versus cadaver?


(hopefully not the same body)

[AnonOrange]

Risking a thread derailment, but proceding anyway...the meter doen't just read the body's mass but the mass or resistence of the body and mind combination.

NO IT DOES NOT. Read the various e-meter threads, I've explained adnauseum.

[alex]

NO IT DOES NOT. Read the various e-meter threads, I've explained adnauseum.

You explanations include your belief that there is no effect of the mind "readable" by the meter. You are not attempting science, but harvesting tasty factoids to support your agenda.

Your approach is sound in the engineering sense, see what works, but not in the science sense, see why. You have already made conclusions beyond hypothosis.

But I like you anyway. We need more passionate wingnuts in the world.

(meant in a nice way, one wingnut to another... )

[AnonOrange]

You explanations include your belief that there is no effect of the mind "readable" by the meter. You are not attempting science, but harvesting tasty factoids to support your agenda.

It's not a matter of belief. The hypothesis was confirmed by experiment that most of the meter's movement (~95%) is caused by grip and sweat of the hands to the cans. An auditor (no matter how well trained) will NOT be able to differentiate body response from hand / can effects.

Beliefs are thoughts without factual basis. Instead we simply saw that the facts confirmed the theory.

At a very basic level, this is how science is done. It's amazing to me that nobody in the last 50 years tried to isolate out the hand/can interface to see what the meter really measures.