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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonOrange View Post
    Pope and I got stress tested with the e-meter. In both cases the "auditor" got wrong the way that sweaty hands affect the meter. Watch Pope's video where he states "my hands are very sweaty". She says, "let me get you some hand cream for that". Exactly the opposite that she should have offered (talk powder). They did a similar error with me.

    Even trained scientologists don't know how to use the device.
    Did you ask her what training she had had on the meter? If you go back and re-look at that video, you will note (maybe) that she rapidly went and found someone more competent to operate the meter.

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    The circuit from the meter IS CHANGED..as is demonstrated by the one, two three four finger immersion (and even the submerged can and hands NOT touching(well via water they are)and the corresponding position of the needle on the dial.

    The resistance at average can to hand contact is Resistance Normal hand (Rnh) and the Resistance at submerged hand contact is Resistance Submerged hand(Rsh)

    Since V=I * R and the Rsh is less than the Rnh the current would be higher throughout the circuit.

    What is the Voltage of the battery in an E-meter?
    Replace the emeter in Pauls and your experiment/protocol with a very sensitive ohmmeter , keep it with the same size cans submerged in water, hands likewise and not touching the cans and make a table of ten individual's RESISTANCE.

    More later

    Would you say the body is a capacitor? and if so would the number of Farads stored in the body influence a current flowing through the body?


    I think the hands in water..should be patented and sold to the Freezone, forget the CoS, it is way to a suppressive environment to take advantage of such an invention.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonOrange View Post
    The WHOLE POINT is NOT to change the sensitivity!!!

    The meter is used with dry hands at a certain sensitivity level and all kinds of "readings" are done on the person's mind and body.

    Without changing the sensitivity, each hand/can is immersed in separate water buckets. The circuit from the meter to the person is NOT CHANGED.

    Then when the cans are underwater, the needle moves 95% LESS. That's all you need to see folks. That means that the meter DOES NOT read the body, but only the grip/sweat interface to the cans.

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    Wooo HOoo is right Paul

    I really appreciate your presence and contributions to ESMB

    And I do agree you are a true Squirrel Extraordinaire, in the tradition of the Renaissance Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    Did you ask her what training she had had on the meter? If you go back and re-look at that video, you will note (maybe) that she rapidly went and found someone more competent to operate the meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dchoiceisalwaysrs View Post
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    Would you say the body is a capacitor? and if so would the number of Farads stored in the body influence a current flowing through the body?

    <snip>
    Why, yes, the body is (among other things) a capacitor, and everyone who ever got an electric shock by simply touching a doorknob or other metallic objects would agree with me. Don't know about it's capacity, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrNobody View Post
    Why, yes, the body is (among other things) a capacitor, and everyone who ever got an electric shock by simply touching a doorknob or other metallic objects would agree with me. Don't know about it's capacity, though.
    Per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_capacitance:

    The Human Body Model for capacitance, as defined by the Electrostatic Discharge Association (ESDA) is a 100pF capacitor in series with a 1.5kΏ resistor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    Per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_capacitance:

    The Human Body Model for capacitance, as defined by the Electrostatic Discharge Association (ESDA) is a 100pF capacitor in series with a 1.5kΏ resistor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonOrange View Post
    The funniest thing to me is that even many anons don't understand that.

    My guess is that more than 50% of anons believe in the E-Meter.
    Lol that's just retarded, and you know it ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonShaw View Post
    Lol that's just retarded, and you know it ;)
    Yea, the very idea that anons would believe a whetstone bridge would measure resistance...
    thoughts are real, its the things you think that are the illusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Termint View Post
    Hook up, consciously keep your grip neutral (you can trust yourself to do this, I assume) and then call off the OTII materials aloud.
    Let us know what you decide to do and whether or not you discover anything
    Unless you're spiritually dead you'll see something that'll change your mind.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonOrange View Post
    Reading OT-3 would be great except for the fact that most active scientologists would have to turn off the video.
    AO, if you can't even duplicate a simple sentence in English how can we ever be expected to take you seriously? I said OTII i.e. OT-2.

    As to your assumption that active scientologists would be bound to turn your video off, what makes you think they'd even be watching it in the first place?

    You seem bent on gaining attention for your "expertise" on the e-meter. You're quite mistaken about how your "expertise" is viewed by others but I understand that it's mostly about self-image and who am I to disabuse you of this notion? After all, by your own admission, you've spent a whole 10 minutes playing with the meter so you're bound to know more about it than the rest of us.

    I won't be feeding your attention-hunger any further but good luck with it.
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    Also, for the record,

    Anons last year, before AO went hellbent on the e-meter because it was simple enough for him to understand.


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