How do you stop thinking of Scientology tech as a solution?

[Disinfected]

On the subject that this is a "recovery board", I have a problem.

How do I stop thinking that Scientology is a solution?

If I have a problem in my personal life that I am not coping well with then I tend to wish that Scientology were a resource for me. I mean organized Scientology. I kinda wish that I could trust my org and go in there and get some help. But I cannot trust - the trust is irrevocably broken.

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."
— Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (source disputed)

Disinfected

[olska]

On the subject that this is a "recovery board", I have a problem.

How do I stop thinking that Scientology is a solution?

If I have a problem in my personal life that I am not coping well with then I tend to wish that Scientology were a resource for me. I mean organized Scientology. I kinda wish that I could trust my org and go in there and get some help. But I cannot trust - the trust is irrevocably broken.

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."
— Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

Disinfected

Look around outside scientology for solutions. As you find some good advice and/or techniques that replace scientology, your dependence on scientology will gradually (or perhaps very quickly) lessen.

The "self-help" section in your local bookstore (or a search on internet bookstore) is a good place to start. Used bookstores are a wonderful inexpensive resource. Pick something that "indicates" to you and begin -- it won't cost much and you won't get unwanted mail or calls! Some self-help books are just "cheerleading" type advice, but some have useful worksheets.

If the problem in your life is greater than you can deal with alone with self-help materials as a resource, then seek counseling from people who specialize in your particular problem -- such as, financial counseling for financial problems, marriage counseling for relationship problems, "life coach" for general problems, etc.

Or, if you don't mind making your problem "public," ask for help right here in this on-line support group! Probably many of us have experienced something similar to what you're going through, and you might be pleasantly surprised how helpful people here can be.

Good luck to you!

[Iknowtoomuch]

Scientology rarely ever even had a solution for me. Although I never knew it at the time.
I just don't look to Scientology for any answer anymore.

[altruistichedonist]

It's been a dilemma for me at times.

After 13 years, I still do nerve assists. And I still observe people's tone scale when I'm talking to them. Works wonders in a sales job !

But I treat the rest of what I've learned from scientology like crap.

Hey OSA get back in the closet.

[Reasonable]

Here are the answers to all your problems.

1) Buy the Basics for $3500 and give them to your local library.
2) Give all your money to the IAS to fight imagined enemies
3) Go into debt and buy more auditing
4) Clear every word in the English language
5) Go on course 15 hours a day
6) Join staff and work for free for 5 years
7) Join the sea org and work for free for one billion years
8) Buy 1000 "way to happinsess pamhlets" and send them to Uganda where they can't read English
9) Donate $4200 for a cast iron bust of LRH
10) Disconnect from anyone that doesn't agree with you
11) Relabel your opinion as "certainty" and always be right by acting that you don't have to be right.
12) Confront your e-meter for 2 hours
13) Go to Flag as everything gets solved at Flag
14) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag
15) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag
16) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag
17) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag

Much "Love"

[HelluvaHoax!]

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On the subject that this is a "recovery board", I have a problem.How do I stop thinking that Scientology is a solution?If I have a problem in my personal life that I am not coping well with then I tend to wish that Scientology were a resource for me. I mean organized Scientology. I kinda wish that I could trust my org and go in there and get some help. But I cannot trust - the trust is irrevocably broken.

Ciao Disinfected!

Maybe consider this....without scientology, how is it that flowers know how to grow and babies know how to laugh?

Instinct!

Follow your own and it will happen for you.

All the best to you!

[Voltaire's Child]

On the subject that this is a "recovery board", I have a problem.

How do I stop thinking that Scientology is a solution?

If I have a problem in my personal life that I am not coping well with then I tend to wish that Scientology were a resource for me. I mean organized Scientology. I kinda wish that I could trust my org and go in there and get some help. But I cannot trust - the trust is irrevocably broken.

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."
— Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

Disinfected

The thing to do is evaluate things for oneself. I didn't stop thinking of Scn as a solution. I stopped thinking of it as the solution. In fact, I stopped thinking about anything as a "solution".

[Disinfected]

Here are the answers to all your problems.

1) Buy the Basics for $3500 and give them to your local library.
2) Give all your money to the IAS to fight imagined enemies
3) Go into debt and buy more auditing
4) Clear every word in the English language
5) Go on course 15 hours a day
6) Join staff and work for free for 5 years
7) Join the sea org and work for free for one billion years
8) Buy 1000 "way to happinsess pamhlets" and send them to Uganda where they can't read English
9) Donate $4200 for a cast iron bust of LRH
10) Disconnect from anyone that doesn't agree with you
11) Relabel your opinion as "certainty" and always be right by acting that you don't have to be right.
12) Confront your e-meter for 2 hours
13) Go to Flag as everything gets solved at Flag
14) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag
15) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag
16) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag
17) If that doesn't work go back to Flag becasue everything gets solved at Flag

18) Return to Step 1.

You forgot the all-important loop.

[Type4_PTS]

Or, if you don't mind making your problem "public," ask for help right here in this on-line support group! Probably many of us have experienced something similar to what you're going through, and you might be pleasantly surprised how helpful people here can be.

Disinfected, there IS other tech out there. When I got out 20 years ago I "knew" that scientology had the best solution for pretty much everything. I've come to see that there is not only other tech but some of it is incredibly effective. If you describe the nature of the issue your running into I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions.

[Disinfected]

[QUOTE=HelluvaHoax!;313567]

[I]

Ciao Disinfected!

Maybe consider this....without scientology, how is it that flowers know how to grow and babies know how to laugh?

Instinct!

Follow your own and it will happen for you.

All the best to you!

Flowers die and babies cry and that is instinct too. I can provide plenty of examples where instinct perhaps leads to some very grisly and undesirable consequences. I'll spare you the imagery.

Thanks but I really can't "think with" that one.

Though I will acknowledge that I should perhaps try.