Here is from the online-version of the main German weekly magazine, Der Spiegel:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justi...662445,00.html
Here is from the online-version of the main German weekly magazine, Der Spiegel:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justi...662445,00.html
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Obligation abortions, torture, unlawful detentions: An Australian senator raised heavy reproaches against Scientology, considers prime minister Kevin Rudd an investigation. The disputed organization rejects the accusations. Hamburg - in Australia this week reproaches became loud, which shock: Was from obligation abortions, torture and freedom withdrawal at Scientology the speech. Senator nod Xenophone from Adelaide submitted documents, in which Aussteiger had raised such accusations, and demanded an investigation. " Scientology is not religious, but a criminal organization, which versteckt" themselves behind their so-called religious convictions; , so Xenophone. ANNOUNCEMENT Scientology resisted in an official report: " The senator is pressurized obviously by former members, that swing hate speeches and rotate facts. They are in approximately as reliable as divorced married people, which reden." over its ex partner; Both Scientology Australia and Scientology international in Los Angeles let an inquiry from Spiegel online to the topic unanswered. Large difficulties threaten the Scientologen. Of Australia prime minister Kevin Rudd an investigation, which is accusations ", considers; ernst" and would have " carefully angeschaut" become. Only at the end of of Octobers was condemned Scientology in Paris because of bind-moderate fraud to a punishment by 600,000 euros. Does not surprise Those Hamburg Scientology expert Ursula Caberta pursues the developments strained: " It is marvelous that arrived at Australia on highest political level ist" , it said Spiegel online. Caberta belonged to the most formed Scientology opponents in Germany and shows up not surprised by the reproaches. " There are obligation abortions particularly in the Sea Org, the elite organization within Scientologys" , Caberta said. In Germany it does not exist however why from such cases in the Federal Republic nothing admits is. In the USA Aussteiger reported against it for years always again something similar, so to Caberta. Now horror stories from the Scientology world arrived obviously also in the Australian parliament. Unlawful detention, torture and compulsion Xenophone quoted before the senate from a letter, in which Scientology from riser Aaron Saxton from Perth had put a confession down: It was involved in unlawful detention, torture and the compulsion pregnant women. It pushed the latters to drive their children off. So it should be achieved according to Saxton that the women placed their worker also in the future completely into the service Scientologys. In another letter Carmel Underwood, from Sydney reported a former Scientology directress that she had been extremely pressed as a pregnant woman to drive their child off. 16-stündige working days are not finally possible as a mother - that was the ulterior motive of their torturers.
Der Spiegel has done any number of Scientology stories over the past decades and is one of the most respected international news magazines.
One of my favorites too
Zinj
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Thanks. I prefer google translator for clarity and layout: http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
SPIEGEL ONLINE - News -- 20/11/2009
Debate in Australia "Scientology is a criminal organization"
Hendrik Ternieden
German to English translation Show romanization Forced abortion, torture, false imprisonment: An Australian senator has made serious accusations against Scientology, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is considering an investigation. The controversial organization rejects the accusations.
Hamburg - In Australia, this week, according to allegations that shock: From forced abortion, torture and detention in Scientology was mentioned. Senator Nick Xenophon in Adelaide submitted documents which were collected in drop such accusations, and demanded an investigation. "Scientology is not a religious but a criminal organization that hides behind their so-called religious beliefs," said Xenophon.
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Scientology fought in an official statement: "The senator is obviously set by former members under pressure to swing the hate speech and twist facts. They are about as reliable as a divorced couple who talk about their ex-partner." A request by SPIEGEL ONLINE on the subject were answered both Australia and Scientology Scientology International in Los Angeles.
In the Scientologists threaten big trouble. Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is considering an investigation, the allegations were "seriously" and would "be carefully watched." It was not until the end of October was convicted of Scientology in Paris because of gang-fraud to a fine of 600,000 euros.
Not surprised
The Hamburg Scientology pursues expert Ursula Caberta developments surprised: "It is wonderful that this has arrived in Australia at the highest political level," she told SPIEGEL ONLINE. Caberta one of the most prominent opponents of Scientology in Germany and presents itself from the allegations is not surprising.
"Forced abortions are mostly in the Sea Org, the elite organization within Scientology," said Caberta. In Germany, which did not exist, wherefore such cases in the Federal Republic is not known. In the U.S., however, dropouts reported for years seemed like so Caberta.
Now the horror stories about the Scientology world are apparently arrived in the Australian Parliament.
Imprisonment, torture and coercion
Xenophon quoted from a letter to the Senate, where Scientology dropouts Aaron Saxton from Perth had made a confession: He had to imprisonment, torture and coercion of pregnant women have been involved. The latter he was forced to abort their children. It should be achieved, according to Saxton that women continue to fully put their labor in the service of Scientology.
In another letter Caramel Underwood, a former director of Scientology in Sydney reported that she had been extremely hard pressed as a pregnant woman to abort her child. 16-hour working days were as a mother finally impossible - that was the ulterior motive of their tormentors.
"Anything that benefits the expansion of Scientology," said Ursula Caberta, "can be made."
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justi...662445,00.html
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There seems no option but a full investigation of the cult in global terms.
This article was printed in Thursday's Guardian in the UK:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ions-australia
The Guardian is a popular and well-respected broadsheet and has reported Scn stories without slant in the past.
The "Church" of Scientology - miserably failing to save a world that doesn't need or want to be saved
After Dutch paper Het Parool (which is mostly based in and around Amsterdam, where the Dutch org is) now the paper Trouw, which is being sold all over the Netherlands, has an article.
Link: Australische senator wil verbod op ’criminele’ scientologykerk - Trouw
Rough translation:
Australian Senator wants ban on 'criminal' scientology church
The Church of Scientology in Australia is under fire. A senator is preparing legislation that threatens the survival of the church, because it is a "criminal organization" hiding under the guise of a church.
In France the anti-Scientologists failed this fall in getting a court to prohibit the Scientology church. The Australian Senator Nick Xenophon want to enable that on the other side of the world by filing of a law. That would make the existence of the Church illegal.
Freedom of religion is not prejudiced thereby, says Xenophon. "Scientology is not a religious society, but a criminal organization that hides behind so called religious beliefs."
The Church of Scientology is supposed to be guilty "of abuse and crime all over the world", said Xenophon in parliament.
The church accused the Senator of making unsubstantiated allegations and accuses him of abuse of the immunity that a senator enjoys during sessions of parliament.
Besides criticism of the church, Xenophon has in recent days been given critical acclaim. In the newspaper “The Australian” Prime Minister Rudd supports Xenophon, because "many people in Australia are worried about Scientology, and I share these concerns".
Rudd is does not yet support the bill of the Senator, at first further research is needed. The latter Xenophon agrees with: he wants a parliamentary investigation into Scientology, which has a Janus face: the 'church' offers support to members, but it also deceives members and acts out of paranoia. According to Xenophon the church intimidates members, squeezes them off, forcing them to seek abortion and "tortures them psychologically". He refers to the conviction of Scientologists in France and current affairs in the U.S. and Belgium.
In Australia, Scientology was long banned. Until 1983, then the Supreme Council allowed the Scientology church as a religious movement, and Scientology obtained privileges thereto belonging, such as tax exemption.
The church argues that Xenophon has come to stir by ex-members of Scientology, who now 'spread hatred'. Their criticism would not make sense, because it comes from people who "are notorious for their unreliability”.
You know what, at this point even if an investigation doesn't happen, Scientology's name is utter mud. There's no question about it anymore.![]()