"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
"They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.
Go HERE to view and/or download the essay, "The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs".
Well if not, very GOOD for YOU!
RG, you need to understand that much of Scientology involves a "mind fuck".
I know that it can be stressful getting "thrown out". I was declared, and at first I went overboard trying to "understand it", writing up queries, digging through policies, communicating with IJC, playing along and jumping through a few more hoops, but after awhile it became VERY clear to me that I was dealing with very HIGHLY PROGRAMMED MACHINES! These people are ROBOTS, and once you can pull out of it enough to SEE THAT, you will realize that there is no reason to maintain any interest in the group OR with the subject.
Scientology, while making "some sense" to "some" people "some" of the time, DOES NOT deliver "spiritual freedom", "OT abilities", or "increased awareness", at least not at all to the degree Hubbard CLAIMS it does, and there are many other great religious PATHS out there that first, don't require so much money, second, don't require so much of ones time and energy, and third, don't involve such a severe brain-washing system of control.
Be HAPPY that they offloaded you. It can be FAR more stressful to try to "route out", when they fight against your intentions, and do everything to stop you! I know people who have spent YEARS trying to route out. THAT takes an emotional toll.
Do whatever it takes to get into a frame of mind where Scientology is meaningless to you, and then move on. There is MUCH more to life than Scientology. And, from where I am sitting, there are many more legitimate "paths to joy and freedom" than what pretends to exist in Scientology.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
"They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.
Go HERE to view and/or download the essay, "The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs".
My guess would be either they though you were mentally unstable or you didn't have enough money. Your risk factor outweighed the slave labor you could give them.
No offense, but at times on here I've thought you might be bi-polar or have other mental health issues. From what I understand about Scientology if they think you actually have (real) mental health issues (as opposed to the ones they make up to make you think something is wrong with you that only they can fix) they will just off-load your ass; not "try to help" as they like to claim. Anyone with psychological issues is just a potential flap to them so they cut them out quick if they sense a problem or there's not enough money to make it worth the risk/ their while.
Thank you, BunnySkull, for having the guts to say that. And you did it kindly too.
Cautious as one crossing thin ice . . .
(LaoTze-TaoDeJing, Chapter 15. 2nd verse . . . )
For Ray - I have not forgotten you, my friend
Or you Scott, this is for you too. I hope you are out.
Kay is out . . .
They more than likely kicked you out because you are too damned honest.
That's a security situation waiting to happen in the Scientology world.
If you caught on to what they are really doing with Scientology. Your honesty would be an extreme liability.
Just my opinion.
Oh,come on!1. I could get some money from my family or sell the house if they would give me a choice to stay and to pay for my auditing.
2.I don't have any mental issues. When my ex and I was going thrugh the kids castody (I have a solo castody now), I had to be evalueted by some very experienced shrink and she did not find anything wrong with me. I have a paper to prove it.
She even wrote a recomendation for a judge, saying what a Hight-IQ-great and stable person I am .
I don't think,they kicked me out because I was unstable. I thinnk,they just
did not know how to handle my case.
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I'm not going to fight with you on this, obviously I do not know you. You could be making up the story about the psychologist or what they said - and no psychologist gives you a paper saying you are "sane." At most you would have gotten a paper saying "you are not a danger to yourself or your children" that doesn't mean you have no mental health issues btw. But what a psychologist did or didn't determine about you after some brief interviews focusing on a custody issue isn't relevant here and is just hearsay besides
However, you have made many posts on here, detailing your personal life, that would lead many people to believe you are not the most mentally stable person in the world. I'm not even talking about all the past life stuff. I'm talking about situations you've talked about with your kids, custody battles, bad choices, priorities, irrationality -- I don't want to start going through your post history and quoting all the the things that stand out like sore thumbs - but they are most assuredly there in spades.
HOWEVER the fact that you posted on here repeatedly and quite seriously as Hubbard's dead gay son is also something I mark under the "mental problem" category, truth be known.
Maybe I'm in the minority on that one, but I don't really think so.
(Also, thanks for the support Lurker5)